It's good that CBB is at 10pm as it means that the rest of the schedule is unaffected. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a occassional 9pm BB if the film is more for 10pm like Step Brothers.

The Bachelor I can't see doing well and a ten week run is a lot, if it flops really badly they could easily swap it with BOTS,

Very good rating and share for Breakfast yesterday. Would be interested to see an hourly breakdown for Sky and BBC News from 6pm to 2am.

See the link in my post 427...

K

As the BARB sample is supposed to be representative of the population as a whole, I doubt whether they'd include anyone that sad.

I'm a bit confused as I understood that iPlayer figures are not included in BARB ratings.

The BBC has announced that they are intending to collate the BARB figures with the iPlayer figures to provide a more comprehensive 7day figure. Why would they need to do that if the figures are already included in the BARB stats?

"The system, called Live Plus 7, will incorporate the total audience consuming content across all platforms, including live, recordings, narrative repeats, BBC iPlayer and HD for seven days after transmission. The system makes extensive use of BARB data and will collate these ratings relating to a particular programme or episode alongside BBC iPlayer stats

The stuff that's already included in BARB is iPlayer on TV (ie via Virgin Media). Not the website viewing.

K

There have been many comments today like this

and this

that are basically saying that BBC1 has provided an expensive schedule of top quality highbrow programmes this Summer and have been rewarded with high ratings as a result. Meanwhile ITV have practically closed down showing the cheapest nastest schedule of cheapo lowest common denominator programmes and repeats.

But is this actually the case?

If you add up how much you think this week's 9pm offerings have cost, is the BBC's so much higher that you would expect from seeing the ratings?

It looks to me that the BBC have been lucky with a schedule that consists partly of repeats and partly of cheapo lifestyle like DIY SOS, throwaway factual like Great British Weather and tacky entertainment like Tonight's the Night. It's hardly BAFTA award winning stuff like some are practically suggesting.

I think the BBC made a committment a number of years ago to look to provide new series all year round and not shut down for certain periods so to speak.
At the end of the day, shows like New Tricks are pulling huge figures(arguably more than in more competitive slots in the Autumn)so I guess if that is the case it doesnt matter that its July/August when its shown. And gaining valuable share for the year end stats.

I'm a bit surprised that 'Epic Win', BBC1's new light entertainment show starting on Saturday 20th August, is airing in an early 17.30-18.10 slot. I thought it was going to be airing in early-primetime around 7pm.

Meanwhile, ITV1 has shifted back its schedule by 30 minutes, so All Star Family Fortunes begins at 7pm, The X Factor at 8pm and WWTBAM at 9.15pm. It confirms that ASFF has been extended from 45 minutes to 1 hour episodes this year.

oh come on, Epic Win already sounds awful and so far all I know is the title, the channel and the timeslot.

I hope it was in HD for Derek.

It would be a bit dangerous! The participants are usually hand-picked not to pose a danger to Kyle, and there are security staff protecting him, too, just in case, because he'd be unlikely to be able to defend himself.

That is not true. During 2010, the average UK person watched 4 hours and 2 minutes of TV every day. The highest level it has been for many years, and probably ever.

Source - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ewing-thinkbox

Maybe there's someone very stubborn in position at ITV1, who wants struggling shows to be left in place, in order to save face.

A contrast to a few years ago when shows were moved or abandoned at the drop of a hat.

What ITV needs is to find a balance beween the two extremes. Maybe they'll get there one day.

First time for everything!

Never heard of channel 847 on Sky before might check it out after the local news.

I thought it was destined for the pre-Strictly slot. I think it was an early evening show all along, but just been bumped back a bit (maybe it is of a similar standard to the 2011 light entertainment flops of 'Don't Scare the Hare', 'Born to Shine', 'So You Think You Can Dance' or 'Pop Star to Opera Star')

Not great for ITV1, but in line with other Tuesday's. Homes From Hell would do better on another night. BBC One has another excellent night - that's a great figure for the Ten O'Clock News. Undercover Boss performed well for Channel Four , but programmes struggled around it. CSI: Miami did reasonably well as always at 9pm for Channel 5. Restoration Home recorded a good figure for BBC Two, and The Hour performed better than I expected.

I saw a bit of that last night. People have asked why it rates so much lower than other shows such as Traffic Cops. I think the backing music must be at least a slight factor. Not the fact the backing music is there, but the fact it's so bloody unsuitable and OTT. It sounds like a rejected soundtrack from a bad horror film.

Take a look on the ITV Player, folks, (if you can get it to work). It has to be heard to be believed.

And even then, it's difficult.

Interesting to compare the England v India Test matches of the last two series for the same week.

2011, 2nd Test, Sky Sports 1

Day 1 413k
Day 2 553k
Day 3 730k

2007, 1st Test, Sky Sports 1

Day 1 150k
Day 2 176k
Day 3 215k

As these are all start times of 10-10.30am, I assume they're the average audiences for the whole 9 or 10 hour broadcasts.

Any figures for daily reach and peak?

Very good increase in viewing over four years.

Can't check C4's figures for 2002 as no cricket in top 30. But below 1.8m.

I think they blow far too much of that £800m on weekday afternoon (12.30pm-5pm) shows hardly anyone watches. And some of those shows, especially the studio-based ones with all the associated costs of running a studio) aren't cheap.

There's nothing wrong with having lots of new daytime content, in theory, but sorting out the big holes in primetime ought to be the higher priority.

Question for tricky_tree, do BARB record ratings for channels such as Sangat TV?

So any figures for Sangat TV who seem to have earned themselves a reputation over the last couple of nights for their coverage in Birmingham.



Is BBC1 still ITV1's main competition though - I would guess that ITV1 is probably hit harder by digital competition than BBC1.

Agree though in the context of their overall ratings at the moment the flops don't look as bad as they do on first sight.


Maybe that'll kill the rumours of axing Loose Women. Could Melanie Sykes end up replacing Kate Thornton though?



As I said a day or two ago ITV actually compromising with Simon Cowell and moving The X Factor to the summer, with BGT moved to autumn, could actually give them a much more stable schedule all year, with basically TXF anchoring the weekends from April through to August, then BGT Sept/Oct with the live finals during October half term. I'm a Celeb can then prop up November.


Exactly - and as long as figures compare like for like it's fine. Also from an advertisers point of view if you watch a show after the sale at DFS has ended they won't be interested - not that you'd watch the ads anyway if viewing with a PVR - hence why the overnights, including +1 viewings, are basically the be all and end all of ratings.

The only reason anyone gave Sangat TV time of day was in protest at the semi-blackout going on at the BBC and Sky. I predict this channel will soon fade back into obscurity again now. Kudos to them for giving it a go though and for a channel of their size they did well with the limited resources they have, but let's not pretend they'll be threatening the big boys any time soon.

Tuesday 9th August 2011 - Soap Figures
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.47m (18.8%)
19:30 - EastEnders: 7.36m (35.0%)

BBC Three
22:00 - EastEnders: 703k (3.1%)

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 950k (5.0%)

Channel 5
13:45 - Neighbours: 610k (7.8%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.09m (7.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 503k (2.5%)
* +1: 125k (0.6%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.89m (29.4%)
* +1: 142k (0.6%)
* probably excluding HD

Source: DS

Also, just a note Tonight is actually live from a studio in 10 minutes, not live on the streets.