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Don't they have one of those already which is losing ratings momentum AND they're tied to a very long run of now?
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The Chase will be fine when new episodes begin. It's only on repeats at the moment which haven't been promoted for obvious reasons. Repeats are fine after a new series of a show like this has finished but running repeats on their own and not off the back of any new episodes was never going to work that well.
But good luck to them. The Chase doesn't seem like a bad show. I think it's going to find it a fair bit tougher at 5pm now though with Pointless well and truly established. |
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Considering other ITV1 ratings in the slot recent, and some of their figures at the weekend, did it really bomb though.
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Would be interesting to know if a drama repeat does indeed cost less than cheap factual.
For the first primetime repeat of a drama, generally BBC1/ITV1 has to pay about 60% of the actors' royalties, which themselves equate to around a third of the cost of an episode. So a drama, such as Unforgiven, costing about £700,000 an episode would be made up of just over £200k for actors' fees, and 60% of this would equate to almost £150k. With additional costs such as music and writer fees, a repeat of something like Unforgiven probably cost ITV £150,000-200,000. At a guess, I think that would be similar, if not slightly more, than how much an episode of a 'cheap factual' as Homes From Hell costs.
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The Channel 4 continuity announcer introducing Twilight - Quote:
Resurrecting the deceased may be what some channels like to do on summer evenings. But here on Channel 4, we prefer the undead. The network premiere of Twilight.
If Channel 4 are really so convinced that Big Brother is a spent force, why are they so bothered by it?
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That's why I'd have thought it would make more sense to bring it back with new episodes instead of leading with repeats after a string of ratings disasters in that slot like Dinner Date. It's an odd strategy.
But good luck to them. The Chase doesn't seem like a bad show. I think it's going to find it a fair bit tougher at 5pm now though with Pointless well and truly established. It'll definitely find it tougher, but I still think it can do a solid 2-2.5m. The one thing it has in its favour over Pointless is the 15 minute headstart. They do seem to have learnt from the mistakes they made with Golden Balls though, which ran pretty much all year in 2008 and quickly became overexposed. In comparison, the upcoming run of The Chase is only 8 weeks and then it's off again until the New Year. That's definite as Britain's Best Dish - The Professionals (I wonder where they got that idea from |
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It's a bizarre strategy. I can only guess they thought they'd be wasting new episodes by airing them in the Summer.
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It was the third lowest overnight rating in the Tuesday 9pm slot for ITV1 this year, so yeah it did bomb! Their Tuesday 9pm slot average this year (excluding BGT) has been 2.9m, so it was more than 30% under the slot average.
For the first primetime repeat of a drama, generally BBC1/ITV1 has to pay about 60% of the actors' royalties, which themselves equate to around a third of the cost of an episode. So a drama, such as Unforgiven, costing about £700,000 an episode would be made up of just over £200k for actors' fees, and 60% of this would equate to almost £150k. With additional costs such as music and writer fees, a repeat of something like Unforgiven probably cost ITV £150,000-200,000. At a guess, I think that would be similar, if not slightly more, than how much an episode of a 'cheap factual' as Homes From Hell costs. |
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The Channel 4 continuity announcer introducing Twilight -
If Channel 4 are really so convinced that Big Brother is a spent force, why are they so bothered by it? |
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Score why do you think Coronation Street will Start at 9:30. I think that's a bit to late to be honest. Or am I Reading your post wrong
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No they wouldn't. World in Action would rate no differently to how Tonight rates.
How do you explain Panorama, which rates better when it is a more accessable consumer type issue but rates badly when covering a heavy story? A modern-day World In Action would only pull in strong ratings if it did what it did in its glory days, i.e., came up with hard-hitting, original investigations that made big waves. The problem is, such investigations cost - and today's ITV wouldn't fund them. It's much more a pure entertainment channel than it was in the old days. So it would rather spend its money on the likes of Paul O'Grady, the cast of TOWIE and Tulisa Thingy. GeorgeS pointed out earlier that ITV is lining up a modern current affairs/documentary replacement for First Tuesday. Good news as far as it goes. But it's likely to be another "Perspectives", which was touted as a replacement for the South Bank Show, but actually only consisted of about six episodes. |
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that would have worked better if Big Brother had been started tonight.
To be fair, that was quite witty for them. Unlike most of their programmes... |
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Unforgiven's ratings are hardly a surprise when you consider the low, low ratings of the recent Silent Witness repeat -and that was on a Sunday and Monday when BBC1 are capable of getting big ratings as opposed to Tuesday on ITV1 where low ratings are the norm.
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Unforgiven's ratings are hardly a surprise when you consider the low, low ratings of the recent Silent Witness repeat -and that was on a Sunday and Monday when BBC1 are capable of getting big ratings as opposed to Tuesday on ITV1 where low ratings are the norm.
Unforgiven was a bit of a random choice to repeat. I would've thought, if they wanted to repeat a serial, they'd have been better off showing something like Whitechapel which could at least be useful in some ways of drawing in 'new' viewers, in preparation of next year's series, even if the raw numbers for the repeats were similarly low. There's no benefit at all in repeating Unforgiven. I can only guess that when ITV recommissioned Scott & Bailey, there was some kind of clause in the deal or something that Unforgiven, which was made by the same production company, had to be given a primetime repeat airing. Otherwise, it just seems a bit odd to repeat a drama from 2009 with no future in terms of new episodes at all, even if it was popular first time round. |
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Thanks to Elgin for the following:
Saturday 27th BBC1 6:10 - Celebrity Total Wipeout 7:10 - Doctor Who 8 - National Lottery: Secret Fortune 8:50 - Casualty 9:40 - John Bishop's Britain 10:10 - BBC News & Weather 10:30 - Match Of The Day ITV1 6:30 - You've Been Framed! 7 - All Star Family Fortunes 8 - The X Factor 9 - A Night With Will Young 10 - ITV News & Weather 10:15 - The Bourne Supremacy Quote:
Will be interesting to see if those schedules stay the same on signing-off day tomorrow, or if Factor finds an extra 15 minutes from somewhere, causing a bit of rejigging on BBC One and ITV1.
. There's been an amendment to the schedules, meaning TXF's second episode is 75 minutes long from 8pm and Will Young's show therefore begins at 9.15pm. BBC1's schedule remains the same as above.
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So when everyone has been saying that ITV should abandon factual and run a schedule of drama repeats in the Summer, it turns out now that it isn't just any drama they should run, but only a small list of 'nice' dramas.
So wall to wall Midsomer Murders every night next year then? |
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Would anyone care to speculate that Spooks will replace Torchwood on thursday nights? or am I the only one to think this?
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So when everyone has been saying that ITV should abandon factual and run a schedule of drama repeats in the Summer, it turns out now that it isn't just any drama they should run, but only a small list of 'nice' dramas.
So wall to wall Midsomer Murders every night next year then? As people have said countless times before, it's ridiculous that Downton Abbey didn't get a repeat run this year ahead of the second series next month. |
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So when everyone has been saying that ITV should abandon factual and run a schedule of drama repeats in the Summer, it turns out now that it isn't just any drama they should run, but only a small list of 'nice' dramas.
So wall to wall Midsomer Murders every night next year then? |
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Would anyone care to speculate that Spooks will replace Torchwood on thursday nights? or am I the only one to think this?
I think a factual series like 'Nature's Miracle Babies', which has an October DVD release, will take over the Thursday slot after Torchwood. |
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Indeed it's very rare nowadays to actually learn anything you didn't already know from an episode of Tonight or Panorama.
Incidentally, I'm in my twenties and had never heard of World in Action outside this thread. |
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Well it makes more sense to repeat returning series than a one-off that aired two years ago.
As people have said countless times before, it's ridiculous that Downton Abbey didn't get a repeat run this year ahead of the second series next month. That is plenty of repeats. |
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It's a bizarre strategy. I can only guess they thought they'd be wasting new episodes by airing them in the Summer.
It'll definitely find it tougher, but I still think it can do a solid 2-2.5m. The one thing it has in its favour over Pointless is the 15 minute headstart. They do seem to have learnt from the mistakes they made with Golden Balls though, which ran pretty much all year in 2008 and quickly became overexposed. In comparison, the upcoming run of The Chase is only 8 weeks and then it's off again until the New Year. That's definite as Britain's Best Dish - The Professionals (I wonder where they got that idea from Quote:
I disagree. The whole series has already been shown three times on ITV1, and a further two times on ITV3.
That is plenty of repeats. Though if it had collapsed there it would've opened claims that it was only doing well thanks to The X Factor lead in. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm slgihtly surprised that DIY:SOS beat Holby City. Great night for BBC One. Dreadful for ITV1. Same old same old really! |
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No surprise? So ITV put it in the schedule - at a cost of around £150,000 if rzt's figures are correct - actually EXPECTING it to perform 30% below the Tuesday 9pm average? If so, a few of the channel's advertisers may want to have a word.
The Silent Witness repeat had 2.6m on the Sunday and 2.7m on the Monday. Those must have been at least 30% below their slot averages as well. |
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World Athletics Championships on Channel 4.
Week 1 coverage details: Day 1 (Sat 27th Aug) 01:00 to 05:30 Live 10:30 to 15:10 Live 19:10 to 20:10 Highlights Day 2 (Sun 28th Aug) 01:00 to 05:05 Live 09:00 to 13:10 Live 19:05 to 20:00 Highlights Day 3 (Mon 29th Aug) 02:00 to 05:00 Live 10:00 to 14:10 Live 19:20 to 20:00 Highlights Day 4 (Tue 30th Aug) 02:00 to 05:45 Live 10:00 to 14:10 Live 19:30 to 20:00 Highlights Day 5 (Wed 31st Aug) 01:00 to 03:00 Live No second live programme or highlights Day 6 (Thu 1st Sept) 02:00 to 05:00 Live 10:00 to 13:45 Live 19:30 to 20:00 Highlights Day 7 (Fri 2nd Sept) 02:00 to 04:45 Live 10:00 to 13:45 Live 19:30 to 20:00 Highlights |
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Dragon's Den did pretty well for a repeat. Cookery shows certainly pull a crowd of sorts with The Great British Bake Off doing very well. It dropped off slightly for BBC Two after then though.
Seven Dwarves performed strongly for Channel Four but it didn't have much support around it. The Sex Education Show maybe better at 10 o'clock where people may tune in hoping for technique suggestions. ![]() CSI: Miami and CSI did very well for Channel 5 but the figures seem a bit on a low side between 7.30 and 9. Neighbours seems to be dipping as well; I'm sure it used to perform better than that.
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. There's been an amendment to the schedules, meaning TXF's second episode is 75 minutes long from 8pm and Will Young's show therefore begins at 9.15pm. BBC1's schedule remains the same as above.

