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F1 Mike · 25-10-2011, 00:31

it's not a "larger market phone" .... we are talking about one phone, the iphone, and then on the flipside there is the android operating software which covers many many many many different phones. there are always going to be more issues to overcome

just think about it

swordman · 25-10-2011, 01:23

Really i have thought about it can't think of the answer but you seem very knowledgeable what sort of issues then? While your at it perhaps you can explain why various phones running the same os is a problem? Doesn't seem to be a problem for the pc

And yes phones running on android are a larger market

F1 Mike · 25-10-2011, 01:44

it is a larger market generally yes, you're right

previously, you were using the line 'larger market phone', which I have pointed out is more than one phone

a lot of the major manufacturers add their own little customisations to the android platform, so you will find that certain apps only have certain bugs on one or a handful of specific handsets.
A lot of apps are incompatible with some phones.
This can also be due to slight differences in the way different types of hardware compute the data. Different chip manufacturers etc.

There is such a diverse range of technology running the Android platform, and a lot of people aren't running the latest. Many phones don't support the latest updates.
Sky will want to ensure the broadest possible reach and to do this they have to find the best compatibility which will include some compromises.

and with the iphone software .... there is only the iphone
a single platform, a single device, no variables,
which makes it far easier for developers to get it right

Stiggles · 25-10-2011, 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1 Mike

it is a larger market generally yes, you're right

previously, you were using the line 'larger market phone', which I have pointed out is more than one phone

a lot of the major manufacturers add their own little customisations to the android platform, so you will find that certain apps only have certain bugs on one or a handful of specific handsets.
A lot of apps are incompatible with some phones.
This can also be due to slight differences in the way different types of hardware compute the data. Different chip manufacturers etc.

There is such a diverse range of technology running the Android platform, and a lot of people aren't running the latest. Many phones don't support the latest updates.
Sky will want to ensure the broadest possible reach and to do this they have to find the best compatibility which will include some compromises.

and with the iphone software .... there is only the iphone
a single platform, a single device, no variables,
which makes it far easier for developers to get it right

Actually, for the iphone/ipod/ipad it is more complicated that you make out. There is several different hardware versions there for a start. Then you have different screen resolutions.

The same applies for Android. So if they can do it for the ipod/iphone/ipad then it can be done with similar ease.

Lets face it, the BBC, ITV and Ch4 have managed it. Im sure sky can.

alanwarwic · 25-10-2011, 08:48

The massive Android market share is quite recent so two years ago I doubt it even had 10% of the now.

Most likely it is that software team were almost all dedicated to the iPhone.
It happened with the BBC and Sky has that learning curve too.

Dai13371 · 25-10-2011, 12:13

Android users have been marginalised for some time now even ignored by companies advertising their apps. One example is my rugby region Ospreys. Been promising an Android app for a year and a bit now. Oh yes, the iOS version came out about, yep a year and a bit ago. Ads like My Text check (which to be fair haven't been updated for a while because there is no mention of iPad) say, and I paraphrase, now get my Text Check for iPhone and iPod touch. Way to go in ignoring a huge market there boys and girls. I often wonder if the marketing teams for these companies are iPhone users and cannot comprehend in any way shape or form that there are perhaps users out there in the big bad world who do not have or like apple products. Yes we exist you blinkered fools.

swordman · 25-10-2011, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1 Mike

it is a larger market generally yes, you're right

previously, you were using the line 'larger market phone', which I have pointed out is more than one phone

a lot of the major manufacturers add their own little customisations to the android platform, so you will find that certain apps only have certain bugs on one or a handful of specific handsets.
A lot of apps are incompatible with some phones.
This can also be due to slight differences in the way different types of hardware compute the data. Different chip manufacturers etc.

There is such a diverse range of technology running the Android platform, and a lot of people aren't running the latest. Many phones don't support the latest updates.
Sky will want to ensure the broadest possible reach and to do this they have to find the best compatibility which will include some compromises.

and with the iphone software .... there is only the iphone
a single platform, a single device, no variables,
which makes it far easier for developers to get it right

Nonsense all hardware has to be android compliant and it is still 1 os regardless of the phones available. If need be it would be easy for sky to make it 2.2 and above.
As I said there is far more diversity in the pc market but sky have no issues there it is more a willingness to put resources in.

alanwarwic · 25-10-2011, 12:22

It works both ways.

There is much stuff that is Web and Flash only.

wacky joe · 25-10-2011, 17:05

2 jokers on this Forum F1 Mike & Sky.
Sky advertise SkyGo on ur Mobile,not or my Android phone or any other.
Complete lies from Sky,grow up F1 Mike stop supporting a bunch of greedy power hungry liers called Sky.
I'm sure a lot of people bought Androids believing SkyGo had an App.
Bxllshxt from Sky,a least tell the public its not available and stop advertising it.

F1 Mike · 25-10-2011, 17:22

I'm hardly supporting them, I'm merely sharing my knowledge which I thought others would find useful

I know for a fact that not all apps work on all phones

I also know for a fact that my HTC has different menu style and operation to my Samsung, and that one supports flash, and the other does not.

I get told my posts are nonsense and that I'm a pro-sky joker

Classic examples of immaturity
I just won't bother then, talk amongst yourselves kids

Stiggles · 25-10-2011, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1 Mike

I'm hardly supporting them, I'm merely sharing my knowledge which I thought others would find useful

I know for a fact that not all apps work on all phones

Only because the devs haven't accounted for different screen resolutions

Quote:

I also know for a fact that my HTC has different menu style and operation to my Samsung, and that one supports flash, and the other does not.

Yes, because one has an older ARM CPU. Menu operation means nothing. These are merely add ons HTC and Samsung throw over Android. Doesnt stop apps working.

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25-10-2011, 00:31	#26
F1 Mike Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: s/w Scotland Posts: 5,575	it's not a "larger market phone" .... we are talking about one phone, the iphone, and then on the flipside there is the android operating software which covers many many many many different phones. there are always going to be more issues to overcome just think about it

25-10-2011, 01:23	#27
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Really i have thought about it can't think of the answer but you seem very knowledgeable what sort of issues then? While your at it perhaps you can explain why various phones running the same os is a problem? Doesn't seem to be a problem for the pc And yes phones running on android are a larger market

25-10-2011, 01:44	#28
F1 Mike Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: s/w Scotland Posts: 5,575	it is a larger market generally yes, you're right previously, you were using the line 'larger market phone', which I have pointed out is more than one phone a lot of the major manufacturers add their own little customisations to the android platform, so you will find that certain apps only have certain bugs on one or a handful of specific handsets. A lot of apps are incompatible with some phones. This can also be due to slight differences in the way different types of hardware compute the data. Different chip manufacturers etc. There is such a diverse range of technology running the Android platform, and a lot of people aren't running the latest. Many phones don't support the latest updates. Sky will want to ensure the broadest possible reach and to do this they have to find the best compatibility which will include some compromises. and with the iphone software .... there is only the iphone a single platform, a single device, no variables, which makes it far easier for developers to get it right

25-10-2011, 02:18	#29
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by F1 Mike it is a larger market generally yes, you're right previously, you were using the line 'larger market phone', which I have pointed out is more than one phone a lot of the major manufacturers add their own little customisations to the android platform, so you will find that certain apps only have certain bugs on one or a handful of specific handsets. A lot of apps are incompatible with some phones. This can also be due to slight differences in the way different types of hardware compute the data. Different chip manufacturers etc. There is such a diverse range of technology running the Android platform, and a lot of people aren't running the latest. Many phones don't support the latest updates. Sky will want to ensure the broadest possible reach and to do this they have to find the best compatibility which will include some compromises. and with the iphone software .... there is only the iphone a single platform, a single device, no variables, which makes it far easier for developers to get it right Actually, for the iphone/ipod/ipad it is more complicated that you make out. There is several different hardware versions there for a start. Then you have different screen resolutions. The same applies for Android. So if they can do it for the ipod/iphone/ipad then it can be done with similar ease. Lets face it, the BBC, ITV and Ch4 have managed it. Im sure sky can.

25-10-2011, 08:48	#30
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	The massive Android market share is quite recent so two years ago I doubt it even had 10% of the now. Most likely it is that software team were almost all dedicated to the iPhone. It happened with the BBC and Sky has that learning curve too.

25-10-2011, 12:13	#31
Dai13371 Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ammanford, South Wales Posts: 7,911	Android users have been marginalised for some time now even ignored by companies advertising their apps. One example is my rugby region Ospreys. Been promising an Android app for a year and a bit now. Oh yes, the iOS version came out about, yep a year and a bit ago. Ads like My Text check (which to be fair haven't been updated for a while because there is no mention of iPad) say, and I paraphrase, now get my Text Check for iPhone and iPod touch. Way to go in ignoring a huge market there boys and girls. I often wonder if the marketing teams for these companies are iPhone users and cannot comprehend in any way shape or form that there are perhaps users out there in the big bad world who do not have or like apple products. Yes we exist you blinkered fools.

25-10-2011, 12:20	#32
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by F1 Mike it is a larger market generally yes, you're right previously, you were using the line 'larger market phone', which I have pointed out is more than one phone a lot of the major manufacturers add their own little customisations to the android platform, so you will find that certain apps only have certain bugs on one or a handful of specific handsets. A lot of apps are incompatible with some phones. This can also be due to slight differences in the way different types of hardware compute the data. Different chip manufacturers etc. There is such a diverse range of technology running the Android platform, and a lot of people aren't running the latest. Many phones don't support the latest updates. Sky will want to ensure the broadest possible reach and to do this they have to find the best compatibility which will include some compromises. and with the iphone software .... there is only the iphone a single platform, a single device, no variables, which makes it far easier for developers to get it right Nonsense all hardware has to be android compliant and it is still 1 os regardless of the phones available. If need be it would be easy for sky to make it 2.2 and above. As I said there is far more diversity in the pc market but sky have no issues there it is more a willingness to put resources in.

25-10-2011, 12:22	#33
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	It works both ways. There is much stuff that is Web and Flash only.

25-10-2011, 17:05	#34
wacky joe Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: norn iron Posts: 1,492	2 jokers on this Forum F1 Mike & Sky. Sky advertise SkyGo on ur Mobile,not or my Android phone or any other. Complete lies from Sky,grow up F1 Mike stop supporting a bunch of greedy power hungry liers called Sky. I'm sure a lot of people bought Androids believing SkyGo had an App. Bxllshxt from Sky,a least tell the public its not available and stop advertising it.

25-10-2011, 17:22	#35
F1 Mike Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: s/w Scotland Posts: 5,575	I'm hardly supporting them, I'm merely sharing my knowledge which I thought others would find useful I know for a fact that not all apps work on all phones I also know for a fact that my HTC has different menu style and operation to my Samsung, and that one supports flash, and the other does not. I get told my posts are nonsense and that I'm a pro-sky joker Classic examples of immaturity I just won't bother then, talk amongst yourselves kids

25-10-2011, 17:46	#36
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by F1 Mike I'm hardly supporting them, I'm merely sharing my knowledge which I thought others would find useful I know for a fact that not all apps work on all phones Only because the devs haven't accounted for different screen resolutions Quote: I also know for a fact that my HTC has different menu style and operation to my Samsung, and that one supports flash, and the other does not. Yes, because one has an older ARM CPU. Menu operation means nothing. These are merely add ons HTC and Samsung throw over Android. Doesnt stop apps working.

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