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Old 11-08-2011, 15:28
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I have an irrational dislike of him. The vests, the backwards hat, the authoritarian voice, the nastiness...... and the references to Vietnam.
I'm new to US BB, should I know why he talks as if he fought in the Vietnam war?
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Old 13-08-2011, 20:39
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He's a nasty little bigot. Hate him and his equally small-minded bimbo of a girlfriend
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Old 13-08-2011, 20:55
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He's a nasty little bigot. Hate him and his equally small-minded bimbo of a girlfriend
You can't dislike Jordan, thats just wrong
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Old 13-08-2011, 21:29
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You can't dislike Jordan, thats just wrong
She's just as ignorant as he is! I did like them both until I saw their true colours this season.
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Old 13-08-2011, 21:30
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I've watched every single season of BBUS and can honestly say the only two people I have ever really liked as 'people' are Jeff and Jordan

The people I have liked as 'players' however is totally different.
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Old 13-08-2011, 23:20
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I absolutely can't stand the guy. I was a Jeff and Jordan supporter in their initial season.

Having seen his homophobic rant this year and since reading up on what kind of things he has said previously shows the guy to be a nasty piece of work. CBS do their best to show him in the highlights to be an all round good guy.

As for Jordan she has truly shown her true colours this season also.

I can't stand Brenchel but I would have them win anyday over those two.
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Old 14-08-2011, 03:11
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How can you hate Jordan?
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Old 14-08-2011, 12:59
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How can you hate Jordan?
Easily. She must agree with his hate filled rants or she would tell him to shut the f*ck up!
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Old 14-08-2011, 13:29
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It annoys me how he refers to himself as Big Jeff, what's that about?

I think Jordan is the second least deserving winner of any American reality TV show ever - I remember her words when she won which really summed it up "I just came for a fun summer and to be myself. I'm lucky I had Jeff looking out for me". I really don't want to see her win again but see it happening as again, she isn't much of a target at all!

However as people I really like them both and enjoy watching them*

* I have no interest in live feed for BBUSA, never have and never will but I have heard Jeff has some rather unsavoury views which might put me off him if I saw them.
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Old 14-08-2011, 15:02
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The Vietnam reference was hilarious. Everyone looked completely non plussed. It's like just saying the word Vietnam makes him great, like reflected glory and means no one would dare question him as it would be anti american or something. Surely that's the only reason everyone didn't just burst out laughing.

Still they all take themselves ridiculously seriously. Brendan is going to cure cancer don't you know.
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Old 14-08-2011, 15:16
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Easily. She must agree with his hate filled rants or she would tell him to shut the f*ck up!
i agree she is not the saint people make her out to be.
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Old 14-08-2011, 15:31
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Easily. She must agree with his hate filled rants or she would tell him to shut the f*ck up!
Does that mean that all the other hm's who didn't question what he was saying also agree with him?
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Old 14-08-2011, 15:42
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Man If you hate Jordan because of that I doubt there's a word in the english language strong enough to describe your feelings about Dani....
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Old 14-08-2011, 15:42
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i agree she is not the saint people make her out to be.
Based on what?
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Old 14-08-2011, 16:44
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I do think Jordan bares more responsibility than other hms for allowing Big Jeff to rant in his prejudiced manner. She is his gf and surely a gf is in a better position to question his behaviour and views than others. However she knows his views and has chosen him anyway so there's obviously an agreement there.

I remember seeing on a yt clip, Rachel discussing UK BB with Jeff and Jordan and Jordan acting disgusted when Rachel said that 2 girls were making out. She is sweet and nice but if you were able to dig at all it's clear she holds similar views to Jeff, she wouldn't be with him otherwise.

One thing in favour of Brenchal and Dani's charatcers is I don't get the feeling any of them are prejudiced or biggoted like J & J.
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Old 14-08-2011, 17:22
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Easily. She must agree with his hate filled rants or she would tell him to shut the f*ck up!
What hate filled rants has he had besides the teacher thing?
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Old 14-08-2011, 17:38
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I remember seeing on a yt clip, Rachel discussing UK BB with Jeff and Jordan and Jordan acting disgusted when Rachel said that 2 girls were making out. She is sweet and nice but if you were able to dig at all it's clear she holds similar views to Jeff, she wouldn't be with him otherwise.
She's from North Carolina - you'd be hard pressed to find anyone there who isn't homophobic, racist or believes God controls every action every one makes. To say Southern America is a bit backwards when it comes to stuff like that would be an understatement.

Not that it excuses those views, I'm just saying, sadly the vast majority of people from those places will share them and will have never seen two women (or men) kissing before - things that seem normal to us are totally alien to them.
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Old 14-08-2011, 21:31
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Does that mean that all the other hm's who didn't question what he was saying also agree with him?
Duh? That would put a target on their back. She's his friggin' girlfriend. She can tell him to shut the f*ck up if she wanted. He isn't going to kick her out if she did!
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Old 14-08-2011, 21:36
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What hate filled rants has he had besides the teacher thing?
From his initial season, the clips don't work but they dive a sort of transcript.

http://www.realityblurred.com/realit...jeff_gay_slurs
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Old 14-08-2011, 21:39
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Man If you hate Jordan because of that I doubt there's a word in the english language strong enough to describe your feelings about Dani....

Ok. What hateful things has Dani said that may make me dislike her?
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Old 14-08-2011, 22:52
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Ok. What hateful things has Dani said that may make me dislike her?
Nothing but by not always standing up to her dad when he was talking about raping Jen and whatnot she must therefore agree with him that its the correct thing to do.
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Old 15-08-2011, 15:13
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Nothing but by not always standing up to her dad when he was talking about raping Jen and whatnot she must therefore agree with him that its the correct thing to do.
Huge difference
1st is that ED was being nasty, he wasnt being serious. Jeff really is a homophobe. ED dislikes Jen, not all women with long dark hair who rate their own bodies
2nd ED is her father, she didnt pick him. Jordan chooses Jeff as her life partner.
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Old 15-08-2011, 15:15
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The Vietnam reference was hilarious. Everyone looked completely non plussed. It's like just saying the word Vietnam makes him great, like reflected glory and means no one would dare question him as it would be anti american or something. Surely that's the only reason everyone didn't just burst out laughing.

Still they all take themselves ridiculously seriously. Brendan is going to cure cancer don't you know.
He has said it 3 times in this series. Something about vietnam, as if he were a vet. But he was 2 when the VW ended.

I want to know why he thinks he is something of a warrior.

As far as i can tell he is an arrogant bigotted fool
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Old 15-08-2011, 15:25
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I just saw the Jeff clip where he reacts to Dumbledore being gay. It's awful! And Jordan just sits beside him and smiles.

I like Kalia more now because she stood up to him.

Actually, I have been quite liking Jordan this season, but I already thought Jeff was an egomaniac and now I don't like him at all.
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Old 15-08-2011, 15:43
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I still like Jeff, everyone has flaws and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Jeff's opinion on homosexuality doesn't create a hatred inside me, he seems like a nice enough person. And just because Jordan doesn't condemn Jeff's views doesn't mean she agrees with them - it would be ridiculous if you argued with somebody who didn't have the same view as you all the time.
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