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Old 11-08-2011, 19:37
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I have a Ford KA 02 reg and about a year ago the engine light came on and it went kaput, I couldn't drive it above 15mph. I took it to the local garage and he said that I needed a new coil pack, he fitted it and I was good to go. This cost me around 150.

About 2 months ago I noticed that I couldn't accelerate very well, especially after 3rd gear, but as I do alot of town driving I adjusted my driving accordingly and did not thrash it! I probably only drive a few miles a week normally.

However, I am due to travel to London for the week on Saturday (from the Midlands) but the engine light came on again today (whilst travelling uphill) and the car is spluttering whilst trying to accelerate. I called the garage who fitted the coil pack initially and he has asked me to take the car in tomorrow morning to be put on the diagnostic machine to see what the problem is. If it comes back as the coil pack again, should I have to pay? I do not have the original receipt but I would say it was replaced just over 12 months ago.

Does anyone know if it could be something else and how much it might cost to get fixed? I am very poor at the moment and just don't know where I will find funds from

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Old 11-08-2011, 19:45
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I don't know a great deal about cars, but i thought i better mention this -

I had exactly the same problem, engine warning light etc, so i took it to a garage i'd never used it before, the only reason i took it to this place was it was the closest, and my car would only get up to approx' 10mph, anything above, it would stall,
exact same problem as u - the coil pack, but spark plugs were also replaced,
the cost of this was 80, and i drive a mondeo, which is a far bigger car (not sure if this means my coil pack is different to yours), but either way, it sounds to me, that u may have been overcharged, it maybe because your car is newer than mine (mine is a Y reg - 2001).
one thing i didn't know about the engine warning light is that it has 2 colours,
Amber - engine has a fault, u can still drive at low speeds, but get it looked at sharpish.
Red - your engine is basically fooked, pull over and stop straightaway, and turn off engine.
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Old 11-08-2011, 19:52
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I don't know a great deal about cars, but i thought i better mention this -

I had exactly the same problem, engine warning light etc, so i took it to a garage i'd never used it before, the only reason i took it to this place was it was the closest, and my car would only get up to approx' 10mph, anything above, it would stall,
exact same problem as u - the coil pack, but spark plugs were also replaced,
the cost of this was 80, and i drive a mondeo, which is a far bigger car (not sure if this means my coil pack is different to yours), but either way, it sounds to me, that u may have been overcharged, it maybe because your car is newer than mine (mine is a Y reg - 2001).
one thing i didn't know about the engine warning light is that it has 2 colours,
Amber - engine has a fault, u can still drive at low speeds, but get it looked at sharpish.
Red - your engine is basically fooked, pull over and stop straightaway, and turn off engine.
Thanks for your reply. It does sound like I was overcharged initially doesn't it? I take it you didn't have any problems after you had your coil pack replaced?

The light is intermittent at the moment and it is amber, I still daren't drive to London on Saturday. Maybe this is nothing to do with the coil pack this time? I will hopefully find out tomorrow that it is a quick, easy and cheap fix (and I am praying to the car gods as I type as I know garages and cheap do not usually appear in the same sentence!)
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Old 11-08-2011, 20:01
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My car has been good as gold since, no problems whatsoever.

car is spluttering whilst trying to accelerate
Like i said, i don't know a great deal about cars,
but that sounds like fuel starvation, possibly a blockage in fuel lines or something similar,

just found this - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9200148AAy2N7x

i reckon either the mechanic fitted it wrong or it needs new spark plugs.
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Old 11-08-2011, 20:18
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The link made interesting reading, thanks.

Fingers crossed it may only be spark plugs tomorrow or I'm up the creek without a paddle!

I will let you know the outcome (I'm sure you will be interested !)
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Old 11-08-2011, 21:27
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Hi

I have a Ford KA 02 reg and about a year ago the engine light came on and it went kaput, I couldn't drive it above 15mph. I took it to the local garage and he said that I needed a new coil pack, he fitted it and I was good to go. This cost me around 150.

About 2 months ago I noticed that I couldn't accelerate very well, especially after 3rd gear, but as I do alot of town driving I adjusted my driving accordingly and did not thrash it! I probably only drive a few miles a week normally.

However, I am due to travel to London for the week on Saturday (from the Midlands) but the engine light came on again today (whilst travelling uphill) and the car is spluttering whilst trying to accelerate. I called the garage who fitted the coil pack initially and he has asked me to take the car in tomorrow morning to be put on the diagnostic machine to see what the problem is. If it comes back as the coil pack again, should I have to pay? I do not have the original receipt but I would say it was replaced just over 12 months ago.

Does anyone know if it could be something else and how much it might cost to get fixed? I am very poor at the moment and just don't know where I will find funds from

It could be absolutely anything. You need the diagnostic check to point to the fault, even then the diagnostic machine may not point directly to the problem, sometimes they give you a clue, but you have to find the fault.

For your information the management warning light does not start off at amber and go red when your car is wrecked, it will stay amber until switched off. (I own a car repair business).
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Old 11-08-2011, 21:44
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Hi

I have a Ford KA 02 reg and about a year ago the engine light came on and it went kaput, I couldn't drive it above 15mph. I took it to the local garage and he said that I needed a new coil pack, he fitted it and I was good to go. This cost me around 150.
Coil pack 48 inc Vat and 10minutes to fit it on a Ka, I would suggest you take it to another garage as he/they are very expensive even with them reading the fault codes.

I would ring around a few independents and ask them how much they charge to get the fault codes read. If they fitted a Ford coil there is a good chance it has failed again as they are notoriously bad I fit pattern ones now as they are cheaper and last much longer.
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Old 11-08-2011, 21:54
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Coil pack 48 inc Vat and 10minutes to fit it on a Ka, I would suggest you take it to another garage as he/they are very expensive even with them reading the fault codes.

I would ring around a few independents and ask them how much they charge to get the fault codes read. If they fitted a Ford coil there is a good chance it has failed again as they are notoriously bad I fit pattern ones now as they are cheaper and last much longer.
It's interesting to read that Ford Coils do fail, but I have called around and garages in the area cannot see my car until Tues/Weds (this is before I contacted the garage that initially fitted the coil pack as I didn't think it would be the same problem). I am supposed to be travelling to London on Saturday and I daresay that will not be happening.

I'm a woman who doesn't understand anything about cars and maybe has been done (quite considerably) in the past. Lets hope tomorrow brings a cheap outcome.
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Old 11-08-2011, 21:59
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Originally Posted by Waj_100;51984355[B
]It could be absolutely anything. You need the diagnostic check to point to the fault, even then the diagnostic machine may not point directly to the problem, sometimes they give you a clue, but you have to find the fault.

[/b]For your information the management warning light does not start off at amber and go red when your car is wrecked, it will stay amber until switched off. (I own a car repair business).
Does that mean I am at the mercy of the garage then? Bummer! I know so little about cars
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Old 11-08-2011, 23:57
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Your car problems appear very similar to mine. I have a Ford Ka 53 and had a few running problems which got progressively worse until the engine light came one. You do have to take care because if the engine light flashes you should stop driving the car immediaetely. Mine did flash but I found that at lower speeds it would stop and it gave me the opportunity to get it to the garage.

I had the coil pack replaced costing 70 so yes, you were overcharged. It temporarily solved things but then the fault returned and they replaced some leads which had corroded.

As it stil wasnt running smoothly I had a service and although it helped a bit the car still spluttered and sometimes was difficult to start but I nursed it along adding red-x to the tank which seemed to help.

One day it got significantly worse which coincided with a clutch problem....I again limped it along to a completely different to a garaged where they found a knackered clutch but I also asked them to investigate the spluttering which they did. Another new coil pack later it was okay but still not quite right, then the garage found a leak in the car heater system which was dribbling all over the engine. God knows how long it had been like that but once that was sorted it now runs like a dream.

It sounds like you have another issue with your car and I certainly wouldnt take it on a long trip if the engine light is on. It needs to go back into the garage (or another one) for more investigation.

Not suggesting the first garage didnt check it all out thoroughly enough and they were cheap but feel more confident with the second garage so will ge going there in the future.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:37
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Does that mean I am at the mercy of the garage then? Bummer! I know so little about cars

Any experienced mechanic will be able to diagnose a misfire problem almost instantly on something like a Ford KA just by the sound of the engine, the diagnostic machine or fault code reader would confirm.

If the coil pack, spark plug or plug lead fail, you will get a rough sounding engine that will lack power, especially uphill.

I hope things went well today anyway.
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Old 12-08-2011, 14:13
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Any experienced mechanic will be able to diagnose a misfire problem almost instantly on something like a Ford KA just by the sound of the engine, the diagnostic machine or fault code reader would confirm.

If the coil pack, spark plug or plug lead fail, you will get a rough sounding engine that will lack power, especially uphill.

I hope things went well today anyway.
Thanks Waj and everyone else who commented.

I took the car to a different garage that fitted the coil pack and I've just had a call to say it is misfiring on cylinder 4. He is sourcing new plugs and leads (he said the spark plugs werent't changed when I have the coil pack fitted) and hopefully it should be fixed later this afternoon. He hasn't given me a quote so I hope it won't be too expensive! Looks like I can go to London after all!

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