She might just mean as a fan of the show, although hopefully its convinced her enough to stay!

Looking forward to seeing Ron tonight but I won't like seeing her sad and lonely come Thursday (beginning of the episode).

She really did. I used to love that show but stopped watching it over a year ago. I cringed all the way through it.
Love how she was gossiping to Rita pretty much all the way through it.

Did anyone notice Sam wasn't wearing her wedding ring?

I missed Thurs & Fri's eps, tried to catch up but found Thurs ep too slow and painful to watch.
Was there any worthy Ron scenes so I can skim my way thru?

I also really don't like how EE are joking around that Ronnie & Roxy are having a love affair/lesbian affair. It doesn't sit well with me, especially considering this is still a sensitive s/l.
I know it's just humour and the bulk of the s/l is over, but it's still fresh in people's minds.
Ronnie has done her time, and she does have to prove herself. Continuing to go to counselling rather than jumping into bed with Jack be a great start.
Can't wait for Jack to go, hopefully we will see Ronnie really standing on her own two feet and getting her life back.

Ronnie collects her 69th duff duff!

Yay!!

Right?
I found it funny at first, but it's gotten really heavy recently. I do like the show on a whole. Sam has got me into yet another programme because of her.

Just cracked up laughing. Please pitch this to the Beeb.

They joked about the lesbian love affair on Celebrity Juice. I think its showing that the two sisters will end up together becauise they are best friends as welll as sisters. I don't want the baby swap storyline to drag out for all of Sam's 6 month stint.

No Ronnie at all next week so make the most of today and Thursday!!

and then Roxy's back on Monday 28th - it all seems blocky and rushed.

I don't want them to focus too much on the swap either. Counselling would have been good to see two years ago but now I would rather they did something different with Ronnie for the 6 months they have her. The subtle reminders are fine for me aka Ronnie’s anxiety and fear when asked to look after Lexi.
I am glad actually that Michael is also leaving which is another reminder and hopefully the agro with Alfie is going to change from constantly on one’s face reminder of the baby swap, to mainly Roxy related.




They don’t know what they’re doing. Look at Jack. They get Jack and Ronnie together, do nothing with them and Jack is leaving.
They might as well have showed Jack try to get Ronnie back, Ronnie saying it won’t work and Jack leaving because of it. It is not like anything came out of getting them together.

By the time Roxy is back, Ronnie would have been in EE for nearly two months and has hardly done anything. I bet the big Alfie&Roxy wedding will last but one week, and Roxy and Ronnie will disappear from the screen for another month before any sort of aftermath is seen.
And then it is time to start thinking about Ronnie’s exit.

poor ronnie

Deserved much more of a build up - I can't say I was interested in Teen Vic but could see that it was a contrast to Ronnie and Jack's story.

To me, his decision seemed to come out of nowhere which didn't sit right with me. I adore Ronnie but struggling with this show at the moment. I keep wanting the 2007 - 2010 period replicated almost but I know too much has changed. I hope things improve.

What the HECK was that???

Wow. What a shoddy ending for "Rack."
Just a random spur of the moment decision made by Jack to leave while Ronnie stood by and watched.
"Sometimes I look at you and I can barely breathe."
Beautiful line but did not fit the circumstances at all. A quick chat on the park bench.

I'm not even a "Rack" fan but I am angry.

I can only hope things get MUCH better for Ronnie from here on.

at least our girl got the duff duff number 70.

The sooner DTC starts the better. That was a terrible exit for Jack. There should have been at least a week of episodes leading up to it. OK maybe it's Scott's fault in not wanting Jack to die but they could have come up with Ronnie's life is in risk because a past thug has tracked Jack down from his bent copper days and has to go on the run. That would explain a rush exit if needed.

Even thiough Ronnie is one spark of light, Eastenders is a terrible show at the moment. I struggle to watch even when Ronnie is in the episodes. There is a lack of drama and too much focus on crap characters like Tamwar and fatboy (who need axing). It doesn't matter who DTC brings in if he won't axe long term crap characters.

Also, it seems strange to bring Sam back and then do nothing with Scott whilst hes there and have Rita on a months holiday. It all seems badly planned and it shows that Newman wasn't producer material.

I can appreciate they want to end the kidney storyline but why focus so much on it? DTC should be editing the episodes now and adding in new scenes. I'm OK if they want to show Jay/Abi visiting Dexter because hes staying on the show but all the stuff with Ava and Sam could be removed!!

I want EE to be like it was in 1989, 1999, 2001, 2009 - amazing TV. I would have been happy never to watch this show again if Ronnie hadn't returned.

I pray DTC can boost the show again.

oh and I thought Sam's acting was poor last night. She looked bored stiff by the dialogue and the scenes were too short when the Queen Vic scenes were longer. Clearly Newman went for more kids and comedy.

thankgod Ronnie isn't in EE next week. I can give this poor excuse for a series a break!!

That was just terrible. They could have done so much more with Jack’s exit. His reasons for leaving were lame and rushed. Never mind that there has been no build up at all so far and all is done in one episode. They could have at least dedicated the time wasted on fat boy’s tripe to more dialogue for Ronnie and Jack, so that at least it could have built some momentum. I thought Sam and Scott both looked bored and there was no way they could have saved the lame story and dialogue.


I absolutely love Ronnie but like you I am really struggling with EE. As much as I try I couldn’t care less about any of the other characters. I genuinely don’t understand why there is so much focus on fatboy, Poppy, Tamwar, Kim, Danny. This terrible kidney gate is taking up too much time too, although I understand they have to finish it off now.

Like you the abbott, after tomorrow I will give it a miss for a couple of weeks, until Roxy returns. Hopefully that storyline can build some momentum then.
I can’t say that I am that bothered about Michael’s exit so I won’t mind missing it completely. As far as I am concerned Michael has been going round in circles for far too long for me to care.

I want Sam to extend her contract but after last night I am having second thoughts about it. Perhaps she is better off leaving at the end of the 6 months and only return if the show starts to improve, maybe in six months time. The first six months of next year are likely to be heavily focused on the Carters and Jacksons/Butchers (with Sonia, David and Bianca’s boyfriend being added to the clan) anyway, so instead of being a background character she can go off and do other projects.

She can have a low key exit, aka Shirley, which can be temporary or final, depending on whether she wants to return or not. So that it doesn’t feel like they give her a final exit, no interviews nothing, leave it ambiguous, leave like you would be going on a break.

That way you won’t have people saying “oh she left and now that she is desperate she is coming back”.

If she leaves in six months though and without any concrete plans to return, I can see her exit being something like, Ronnie having her happy ending off screen, aka deciding to join Jack away from Walford.

yeah I'm having secod thoughts about Sam stayin now! but we must have faith in DTC. Never liked SOnia much but at least its not a random return.

The problem I had with Jack and Ronnie is usually there is emotion and an energy between them (like the scenes when she spent the night together etc..) but in this episode everything about them was flat and Ronnie was almost a Tamwar clone in not being very animated at all.

I thought Ronnie would break down when he drives off but it was quick sniffle and duff duff

I have felt that Scott has been bored for a long time and seems to be the reason he quit. Jake Wood gets all the big storylines and he gets none.

6 years of memories and life together wrapped up by a quick 5 second talk on Arthur's bench. WTF

It's a shame Ronnie won't get anymroe scenes with Michael because at least there is a chemistry between them but instead it's boring MyAlice who gets the scenes.

The Teen Vic....awful, I remember Sam Mitchell winning it once back in the 90's so once again EE team recycling past glories and getting it wrong!

Maybe Sam underplayed it to stop herself getting emotional that Scott was leaving I don't know but considering what shes capable of she is totally wasted on this garbage they are churning out.

I hope and pray that once the non-wedding is out the way we can get animated strong Ronnie back.

If Newman was still in charge this is what would have happened but DTC will probably give her a decent exit. If Sam never ever ever wants to return I wouldn't mind her having a memorable death actually - like Steve Owen, Tiffany Mitchell because you always remember them.

I thought she was just going through the motions. I don’t blame her though.
Their last scene had only seconds to play out. If Ronnie had started to break down they would have had to cut the scene half way. There was no time to do anything.
Their goodbye when Ronnie went to prison had much more time and build up. This is meant to be Jack’s final exit and if you fast forward the tedium that is Fat boy there were probably no more than 10 minutes dedicated to Jack’s exit.
Like someone said in the episode thread, Alfie and Roxy went on holiday and they got a better "exit" than Jack's final episode.
Really puzzling.

This smillie sums it up:

What do people think about Ronnie saying she no longer wants any kids? Is that good or bad? Does it stop anymore baby storylines for her? Does it mean she will be happy to be auntie to Lexi, Amy, enter all the other kids shes related to in some way, ?

If she fell in love again in 2 years time would her having a baby be OK?

I wish they hadn't mentioned it personally and just leave it that Ronnie is moving on with her life. To have her say she doesn't want any more kids seemed too final.

Not much more to add about Jack's exit, so I'll just use the word horrendous! I don't think their final scenes together felt right; they didn't seem to click or have any energy between them - no spark in anyway. I have no doubt that many people on these forums could have written a better ending on the back of a stamp!

As for Sam well, when she came back I was really thinking I hope she stays beyond her 6 month contract. But now well, unless things do improve in the coming months I hope in some ways that she doesn't; because really I don't think she should lower herself to the dire standards EE has become so associated with. I'm sure she could find better and more fulfilling things to do with her time.

I'm only really watching EE at the moment because of her, after the whole baby swap fiasco I no longer watched the show full-time - just on and off. Of course I'm hoping the show will improve in time and to that tune that Sam stays.

I was looking at EE's FB page and people’s comments and so many want to see Ronnie be happy for once.
It has been the story of her life that she is given something and it is snatched away within days, sometimes hrs. Nor does the character or the audience get any fulfilment ever.
Danielle, James, miscarriage, wedding bliss only lasted for a month, gets together with Jack for no more than a month at a time and something happens to bring that happiness to an end. Even the money and business she had got wasted on Sam b*oody Mitchell’s bail.

I really want her to be happy for once. Don’t get me wrong I do want the tears and the drama. Ronnie won’t ever work as a go happy, nicey-nice character but she does deserve a break. It gets depressing giving her so much heartbreak all the time. I would like to think of her as having something to look forward too. I would probably give her a baby even if it was as her exit storyline.
How depressing can her life be? At the end of the day Roxy has Amy and at some point will meet someone and move on with her life, away from Ronnie, so will Lola and any other Mitchell. I would like to think of Ronnie as having some fulfilment, where she can go and get away from all that is bad in her life.

Yeah I agree; you just somehow want Ronnie to win and find some happiness - my god the girl deserves it!

In the short term I'd like to see her, Roxy and Amy move in with Phil - Ronnie can kind of head the family up. Then her and Roxy both back in charge of R&R; then maybe we can get back to something like the Mitchell sisters who first arrived on the square. Also for Ronnie to get really close to Lola and Lexi so they really do have a special bond.

More longer term (if Sam stays) I'd like them to develop a new Love interest for Ronnie. Now I'm thinking a new character - I don't want someone else already on the square getting their mucky paws on her. I just want her to have someone who is going to be good for her, really help her move on and heal. I'd see this happening over time, I think more short term I'd prefer Ronnie to be without a man in her life because I think she needs that time alone.

Sure Ronnie is always going to have her dark side because of all the hurt that has happened to her, and after all to some extent we're all products of our past. But in the end I'd like her to have someone who is really going to protect her and be the one who is really going to be there for her - someone she can truly trust.

OK that will do for starters!!