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EastEnders - Ronnie Mitchell/Samantha Womack Appreciation Thread (Part 9)
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Natalie360
29-05-2016
Originally Posted by LaneKent:
“I think you could be right on all counts.

Firstly, I wouldn't be shocked if Andy ends up moving in. Afterall, did I read somewhere he is homeless? Eventually there will be a scene where he goes to harm Ronnie and someone will rescue her at the last minute. Someone in the Reynolds camp will recognise him or be exposed as working with him and Jack will put 2 and 2 together.

Re the happiness. One of 3 reasons I can think for it:
1. (Hopefully) to move away from the bailing out Roxy stories,

2. (More likely), the calm before the storm in which nearly everything (if not all) will be ripped away from her. This could come about for 2 reasons:
2a. Andy carries on his campaign until a near death/or death scenario arises.
2b. The truth about Fatboy comes out. In the eyes of the law she is guilty of being an accessory to murder.

Regardless of Claudette's part, in the eyes of the law she is innocent as it was Ronnie who hired the hit men to commit a killing and she can be traced back to them. The CPS would be hard pressed to form a case against Claudette. The only evidence against her is that she sent Fatboy on an errand instead of her son. There is only circumstantial evidence that she knew something bad was going to happen. Even then, she didn't necessarily know if it meant death or a beating. As the CPS only bother pursuing cases they have a realistic chance to win, they probably wouldn't give Claudette a second glance in the real world. Of course Claudette is due some form of comeuppance - in the world of EastEnders.

Whether Ronnie dies or goes down for Fatboy's murder, is obviously dependent on what Samantha Womack has planned for her future or what vision the new producer has for Ronnie?

It interests me that they have chosen to revisit Danielle at this stage and have Glenda fleetingly back. At a time Ronnie's character could potentially be heading for a comeuppance - in regards to Fatboy. Fatboy was a total innocent, all round nice chap. So I don't think they will let his death go forever. TPTB will find some way of comeuppance. Even if it is just the community who find out and abandon her.

At this stage I would not be shocked if Ronnie is gone foe good in 12 months or whether she is still there in 5 years?

Where is all this Danny stuff leading with Roxy? According to Glenda Danny thought Roxy' Ibiza scheme was "a good idea". I really hope it means Roxy is headed in a separate direction from Ronnie, but I won't hold my breath.”

Well we have now seen a possible brush with death. Andy locked the door whilst talking to Ronnie, and had it not been for Jack, only God knows what would have happened.

Andy is seriously creepy and I now believe that he has the complete intent to kill Ronnie. Why? I don't know. Especially after all these years, why now?
The_abbott
29-05-2016
I think the real Andy (the father) is in a coma. I think that is genuine. And maybe Andy 2 (aka Gareth) is now looking for revenge.

It looks like Roxy ad Ronnie are being kept apart which can only be a good thing. I hope Andy doesn't kill Ronnie that's now how I want her to leave the show. I think Fatboy's death will lead to the Hubbards leaving not Ronnie. I can't see SOC sticking with the Hubbards.

I'm disappointed that Ronnie never got a last scene with Peggy, neither did Billy. It was all about Peggy and the flaming Carter (who you may know now I hate with a passion).

I will probably call it a day when Grant's stint is over. EE is just not good anymore. Any potential gets sucked away by the Carters.
kushtiimaytee
07-06-2016
I'm not sure what to make of this storyline involving Gareth. Why seek (perhaps) revenge after all these years? And IIRC Ronnie & Andy didn't part on bad terms because her gave her Danielle's teddy bear.

Spoiler
According to Inside Soap, Andy prepares to make his move


So I wonder if this is going to build into a big s/l? Perhaps it's something we aren't able to predict?

Regardless, imo Ronnie as a character has improved an awful lot in the past few months, so I'll definitely be posting more often.
The_abbott
09-06-2016
Yeah they left on OK terms which makes this weird. Maybe he blames his stoke on the stress of losing Danielle.

Ronnie's character has been slightly better recently (less Darth Ronnie/Gangsta) and more normal but its all so inconsistent and they don't know which direction to take her. She also doesn't seem like a primary character anymore.

I now only watch EE on iPlayer and pretty much only watch Mitchell scenes now so every episode is only about 5 minutes long!!
Rose-Addict
09-06-2016
Yeah, I do the same - I just catch up on Ronnie and Roxy's scenes on iPlayer. The last full week I watched was Peggy's return/final week.

I still love Ronnie, but there is still something very dry about her stories now. It's just not quite the same anymore. As much as she has great chemistry with Roxy, I enjoy Ronnie when she's communicating with the rest of the Square so it doesn't help that her storylines are quite self contained at the moment, within the Ronnie/Roxy/Jack/Andy bubble.

She needs the R&R again - just for some change of scenery!
The_abbott
11-06-2016
Yeah I don't know why the R&R has been dumped. It was always great to have her working there as it gave the character a base. What exactly does she do now?!

I see Sam is doing Mount Pleasant again this year so will miss some weeks/months on EE. GIves me a break from the show to watch football/tennis/Olympics!!
kushtiimaytee
14-06-2016
Yeah I agree it's very inconsistent. It's weird to see Ronnie push Roxy so hard to date Andy when Roxy was almost raped 6 months ago. As someone who has been raped, I would've thought Ronnie would be Roxy's guard dog. I know attempted rape is not the same as actual rape, but it's still traumatising nonetheless. It's clear Roxy is scarred by the whole thing, but Ronnie found it amusing that she punched Andy as a way to defend herself when he got too close.

The whole layout of Peggy's s/l is strange. She pops up, dies a few days later and only Phil is upset she's gone as the following week the Mitchells are carrying on as normal. The gap between her death and her funeral is quite big in TV terms imo. There hasn't been an investigation or owt considering that she took her own life. No suspicion that anyone helped her or did it for her.

One thing I was confused about last year -- I heard that Sam was filming Mount Pleasant therefore Ronnie was put in a coma, yet Sam was barely in two episodes of MP.
LaneKent
16-06-2016
I can't bear the Carter's nor the Coker's.

Andy is screwed up with grief. Didn't their adoptive mother die not long before Danielle arrived? With her adoptive mother dead, she decided to check out her mother when notified her birth mother was looking for.

Then Danielle died and his Dad had a stroke because of the grief.

Andy/Gareth gets more creepy with every episode. I hope they remember he used Hannah' credit card somehow otherwise more sloppy writing.

Hots up again next week.
The_abbott
04-07-2016
Originally Posted by kushtiimaytee:
“One thing I was confused about last year -- I heard that Sam was filming Mount Pleasant therefore Ronnie was put in a coma, yet Sam was barely in two episodes of MP. ”

That was more to do with her panto but Sam made a comment that "she wasn't in the scripts" which suggests that they just didn't use her and just left her in the coma (which was more realistic).

I mean look at Rita this year - she was missing for three/four months yet was also only doing a panto whereas Steve does a panto every year and remains on screen

Only watching Ronnie/Mitchell scenes at the moment on iPlayer. EE is a bit bland at the moment.

I see Linda is involved in Peggy's wake. I mean she only met her once yet Ronnie never even had a goodbye scene with her

DTC - the one word I describe his era is DISSAPPOINTMENT

Hoping SOC can do a better job. He did some good storylines in the early 00's but as DTC has proved a scriptwriter does not make a good producer.
kushtiimaytee
31-07-2016
Originally Posted by The_abbott:
“That was more to do with her panto but Sam made a comment that "she wasn't in the scripts" which suggests that they just didn't use her and just left her in the coma (which was more realistic).

I mean look at Rita this year - she was missing for three/four months yet was also only doing a panto whereas Steve does a panto every year and remains on screen

Only watching Ronnie/Mitchell scenes at the moment on iPlayer. EE is a bit bland at the moment.

I see Linda is involved in Peggy's wake. I mean she only met her once yet Ronnie never even had a goodbye scene with her

DTC - the one word I describe his era is DISSAPPOINTMENT


Hoping SOC can do a better job. He did some good storylines in the early 00's but as DTC has proved a scriptwriter does not make a good producer.”

Ahh. Thanks for explaining.

BIB - Sadly I have to agree.

This Ronnie/Andy s/l is so unrealistic and has dragged on for far too long for it to be effective and make anyone care.
I've heard it comes to a conclusion next week, thank goodness!
The_abbott
01-08-2016
The one thing I hate the most is how dumb they have made Ronnie. She was always one step ahead of people even Archie.

Now she is being played by Andy (Gareth) and Andy in the hospital bed. Please end this tripe!!
The_abbott
15-08-2016
Well it's over guys. Ronnie has been axed. Never thought she would be axed but I think it is time.

I am actually hoping she dies so Sam is never tempted back.

The writing for her character has been inconsistent and rubbish for a long time now. In fact its was DTC that ultimately destroyed her character with her being a murderer.
LaneKent
01-09-2016
Originally Posted by The_abbott:
“Well it's over guys. Ronnie has been axed. Never thought she would be axed but I think it is time.”

Until a couple of days ago I hadn't read anything about EE for weeks and not done my FF routine since the Andy story ended. What a shock to read most of those already been axed by the new producer. Well actually it was and it wasn't. The shock was that Samantha Womack has been axed along with
Spoiler
Rita Simons
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Okay not axed, but by 'mutual decision'. I always thought that when she left, it would be totally on her terms.

Looking on the bright side, I doubt I will ever watch EE again as there are only about 5 characters I will be remotely interested in once she has gone. So I can put it to bed once and for all. I only watched between 1985-1986 and 2010-2012. Then since August 2015 with finger on FF. It was particular characters, rather than the show itself, that made me watch since 2010. In 2010 I liked virtually all the characters and I first saw it at someone's house in the build up to the 25th Anniversary, and then really came hooked during the World Cup of that year. I like my characters to be full of depth, 3 dimensional. The way things are written today, I cannot imagine them bringing in any new characters that would interest me? They can't even get continuity right from one episode to the next some weeks!

As to the character of Ronnie leaving, the writing has been on the wall since Christmas Day. The fact that Sam Womack has a few other jobs in the offing suggests she has known that she was on her final year or so for a while. We have said before on here how her story seemed to be coming to a head. Everything was getting wrapped up.

Since New Year Jack returned full time, Ronnie became happy, they dragged up the Danielle story, Glenda a seemingly pointless 2nd comeback in May (after starting out with promise). Roxy got back on drugs after being nearly raped (which evoked memories of Archie for Ronnie). Ronnie has also been frozen out from Mitchell storylines. Other than Jack and Roxy, the only other person Ronnie seems to have any real connection with these days is Honey. All the while they have been building up the Mitchell family unit in new directions by the re-introduction of past Mitchells. Not to mention that Phil and Sharon are standing by one another for more than 2 episodes, so presenting a real family unit.

Yes, it will be the new producer executing Ronnie's exit storyline, but DTC has been preparing the way for this since the moment her actions led to the murder of 'Fatboy' - a total innocent! I doubt the CPS would be able to build a strong enough case against Claudette to charge her. Ronnie, on the other hand, has at the very least mobile records leading back to her. But the soap gods won't get her that way, they will punish her in some other way no doubt?

Other than maybe fleetingly, Ronnie shouldn't of returned after the baby swap.

Quote:
“I am actually hoping she dies so Sam is never tempted back.

The writing for her character has been inconsistent and rubbish for a long time now. In fact its was DTC that ultimately destroyed her character with her being a murderer.”

Given one of the other departures now announced, I wouldn't be shocked if this is the end. They do use the word "rest" in describing her departure, and you would normally associate that description with a break. But I am not so sure? I think she will either die or one of the other departures will die or she will go on the run (people are speculating that she is going to kill Dean). Either way I think it is going to make it difficult for her to return and yes I agree. The time has come. It has come and gone a couple of times. But now for certain it is the right time to say goodbye.
The_abbott
20-09-2016
man I shouldn't watch old episodes. I was watching some 2007 stuff

Jack "We make a good team - like Ronnie and Clyde"
Ronnie "Wasn't Clyde the smelly Orangutan"

Ronnie was so funny back then.

If they wanted doom and gloom then they should have done more with Ronnie's lack of connection to Matthew not all this gangsta shite. I mean what exactly happened with all the "blue eyes" stuff with Vincent?!
The_abbott
21-09-2016
As this thread will soon be coming to an end (when Ronnie leaves again) time to get nostalgic.

Some photos on youtube of Ronnie's glory years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqo7mqVfXk
The_abbott
28-10-2016
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/news...e-time-for-me/

It sounds like the door will firmly be closed...
The_abbott
30-10-2016
Looks like however Ronnie leaves it will be on her wedding day

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-t...g-spoiler-pics
LaneKent
01-11-2016
At least she's in spoilers next week. I might start watching again? I can't decide whether to bother or waiter until nearer the end? The rest of it looks dull.
The_abbott
01-11-2016
I watch her scenes on iplayer and the scenes she has been in recently have been pointless. They don't seem to make much effort. In fact the only purpose she seems to have is to be in the Darts Team!

I am in two minds about this drowning plot but the sooner Ronnie leaves the sooner I don't even need to catch up with EE on iplayer!
Sam Womack Fan
10-11-2016
According to both Sam and Rita's Twitter accounts, they have both left EastEnders yesterday. Sad times ahead and I will miss them being on our screens. I can't see me watching EastEnders much next year
bean_of_sb
18-11-2016
So Sam has been confirmed as playing Morticia Addams in the U.K. Tour of the Addams Family Musical. I will definitely be going to watch and I'm glad that both Rita and Sam have theatre projects lined up already.

It's hitting home that's ronnie is leaving and I will definitely have a lot less enthusiasm for EE once she has gone.
The_abbott
24-11-2016
Originally Posted by bean_of_sb:
“So Sam has been confirmed as playing Morticia Addams in the U.K. Tour of the Addams Family Musical. I will definitely be going to watch and I'm glad that both Rita and Sam have theatre projects lined up already.

It's hitting home that's ronnie is leaving and I will definitely have a lot less enthusiasm for EE once she has gone.”

Well it was never going to take her long to get another project. She is in demand. EE don't want her anymore is their loss.

To be honest I have struggled with EE for a number of years so this is the perfect way to stop watching again completely.

I first stopped in 2006 and it was only Sam coming into it that I started up again and I only watch her scenes on iplayer now.

I just can't believe after getting excited over a BIG exit its going to be the bloomin' swimming pool exit for her. I am hoping for a twist - even if she dies it has to be better than that!
The_abbott
27-12-2016
Any one else seen the trailer? I liked the music. R&R always have the best trailers!

Looks like the pool incident might be happening. I hope there is a twist that they go off together (although dumping Matthew for Roxy would be extreme and she would become like Glenda abandoning the kids).

Or I hope selfish Roxy dies.

I think Ronnie will die saving Roxy. Then Roxy wakes up ad sees Ronnie dead in the water.
kushtiimaytee
27-12-2016
I'm so sorry I've abandoned this thread these past few months. Ever since I found out about Ronnie & Roxy, I've been through all kinds of emotions - mostly anger, so I've stayed away until I calmed down. I went on holiday and came back to the news and I smashed a plate. I was so p!ssed.

I'm hoping both Ronnie & Roxy drive off into the sunset with their kids, but I know it won't happen. If they both die, it's unbelievably cruel. Out of the two, I selfishly want it to be Roxy but would honestly prefer it if it was neither.
I could go on and on about why Ronnie shouldn't die, but we all know why, because I'm sure we all feel the same.

Just... not happy about the whole situation.

But I'm gonna focus on the positives. Ronnie has looked radiant these past few weeks, and she looks stunning in her wedding dress.
kushtiimaytee
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by The_abbott:
“Any one else seen the trailer? I liked the music. R&R always have the best trailers!

Looks like the pool incident might be happening. I hope there is a twist that they go off together (although dumping Matthew for Roxy would be extreme and she would become like Glenda abandoning the kids).

Or I hope selfish Roxy dies.

I think Ronnie will die saving Roxy. Then Roxy wakes up ad sees Ronnie dead in the water.”

Yes! They really do have the best trailers.

I hope for that twist, but somehow they grab the kids and go.

I really hope that doesn't happen, but it'd be in keeping for Ronnie's character to die for her sister.
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