I agree with this post completely, everything you've said is so true

I watch the youtube of Ronnie

Blurting it out is one thing(and when are these things ever without emotion). Remember Ronnie blurted it out in the first place - the live episode. I thought that was realistic, and I don't think anyone in here was saying that wasn't realistic. It made sense at the given moment.
What to me was kind of just - off - was the complete dropping of the storyline and dynamic for months. What I hated most was Ronnie and Roxy making up as if nothing had happened, I think that in itself was just infuriating writing. They lost so much dramatic impact by doing that when it would made so much more sense for Ronnie to be begging Roxy to listen to her if they had gone months with a deteriorating relationship. But instead it felt a bit forced Ronnie suddenly breaking down about it after being apparently fine for months in between, I know they put in some little triggers, but to me it didn't make up for the lazyness and I didn't completely buy it.

The episodes themselves, were just bad imo. They could have still got the storyline mainly done and dusted within a week with actually decent episodes if they really wanted to get it over with.

My problem isn't Ronnie telling everyone. I believe caught in that situation, she just might - what choice she did have really? I think they could have done a much better job of it though. The problem with, there was nothing really good about the storyline/episodes. The only time I at least found it kind of intriguing was the live episode - I was bit dumbfounded(even though I had guessed it was coming before it happened, but ended up feeling surprised anyways). I at least thought the brief scenes we had were affective. I didn't find the July ones affective personally, sorry my opinion. I also found Ronnie's scenes through March done well enough. I was fine with her weird behaviour with Louise and the snow globe that disappeared and we have no idea what Ronnie ever did with it. If only they kept the storyline going at least subtlety through April to June(they through in some reference at the end of June after the Danny crap was finally over). As others mention, it was more the way they had didn't really even address that it might be difficult for someone to deal with the truth being out that was 'unrealistic'. I didn't expect them to go majorly into this - but they didn't even go there at all, not even really a mention.

Isn't that general complaint with Ronnie thought all the way through to the end. The fact they had her so easily get over all of what happened with James? That was was the worst thing, ridiculous seeing as she never got any closure there in the slightest. I don't think Ronnie being 'normal' is in character, not to this extent. Ronnie pretending to normal is one thing. Ronnie trying to muddle through, that's fine. But that doesn't make it realistic to 'brush off' trauma's like that. Repressing emotions is the the same as not having emotions, there's only so long you can do that. As Ronnie showed quite a few times until she went back to 'normal' again.

I agree. The only time there was a decent episode covering Ronnie’s rape was the live one.
The scene of Ronnie curled up in bed with her back on Roxy, covering her face with her hair was amazing and it spoke volumes and that is what they should have done in July. Explore that vulnerable Ronnie.

The July episodes are not worth mentioning at all. They were useless.
I think B.K and his team never understood or knew how to write for Ronnie. They made a mess of everything and almost ruined the character to the ground.

I agree, its almost like KIrkwood had it in for Sam - like the Lucas storyline focus went to Denise, the rape story went to Peggy and Roxy all of a sudden and was so noticeable.

WIth the Lucas story you could understand as Lucas was leaving and you need an aftermath (although I never saw a report saying Don Gilet was leaving so I'm thinking KIrkwood dropped him too).

Ronnie became the plot device in her own story that we have followed for three years prior, now we had Roxys reaction (which we did need but only to make the sisters closer again) and Peggy who's reaction we already saw when Archie lied to her at the wedding. We knew then how Peggy felt - it was used to beef up her exit which wasn't needed.

People say that Sam was leaving anyway - but I still think had Santer been around she would have stayed for another year with lighter stories.

Roxy is in danger of being axed now as shes redundant - if she is axed then Ronnie would never return - unless they redo the "Under new management" trailer again with the sisters returning together again

I hope they don’t axe Roxy. If that happens there goes my hope of ever seeing Ronnie back.

It made no sense to me that Peggy didn’t believe Ronnie. It was very contrived.
Roxy’s reaction was understandable to a certain degree, because Roxy refused to see her father for who he was and chose him over Ronnie only months after Danielle’s death. But also from her point of view accepting that Archie did that to Ronnie, was relinquishing her good memories of her childhood and of the father she dotted on. So that was a huge loss for Roxy. Still contrived that she sat on that revelation for 6 months and never did anything but again it is in Roxy’s character. She never wants to deal with anything so it was easier for her to ignore it.

Peggy on the other hand was completely contrived. Peggy saw Archie for what he was, both with Danielle but also when he kicked Peggy and the Mitchells out of the pub, left her with nothing in his will.

I don’t think Peggy would have doubted Ronnie after seeing Archie for what he was. Everything was plot driven with Peggy. Ronnie has been the plot device in every storyline she featured for the whole duration of Kirkwood's tenure.

Also I know I have posted this so many times, but Richard being Jack’s was so pointless, short sighted and plot driven, just to cause Ronnie some more misery for the sake of it.

I didn’t watch EE in the 80s or 90’s but I have read that Mandy and Sam used to be friends. Also Mandy slept with Ricky too so both Sam and Mandy have a history and connection with Ricky.

Had the baby been Ricky’s, Mandy’s return would have been a good time to also bring back Sam and put that Richard plot to use. With Bianca’s return imminent and with Mandy and Sam’s friendship they could have done something with Richard being Ricky’s.

Game On

Samantha Womack is out of a job now that she's stopped stealing babies and Ben Chaplin doesn't seem to have worked for a while. How about bringing Game On back? No? Okay, we'll just queue up the theme tune on Spotify for the next five plays, that should probably do it for us.

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hey guys! sorry i am so busy at the moment (trying to find a job and adjust myself being back in the country!) i havnt been on here much last time i think i asked if anyone fancied going to south pacific in london although im not sure if there'll be any tickets left now? anyway how is everyone? anyone else really cba with eastenders now sams left?! even though i love scott (actually i love all the brannings) but i just cant really find the motivation.. x

Agree with you totally, have gone right off it. Even Roxy is hardy in it anymore. Bored with it

[quote=zebzeb;52612848]Agree with you totally, have gone right off it. Even Roxy is hardy in it anymore. Bored with it[

yeah last thing i heard was that kat was having a baby and i was like SERIOUSLY?! can we not have a new/more intersting story please?! im sticking with old youtube for now

Sorry having a blonde moment here, but is this something you wrote or have you quoted it from somewhere?

I don't want Sam to go back to doing a comedy series. I like Game On but it is not something I would want her to do now. Not as a long series. One reunion episode is fine but not more than that.
I want to see her in serious dramatic staff. She excels in that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20b2z...eature=related

Sorry should of said it was quoted from an article about "What nineties comedy's should we bring back"

http://www.islingtontribune.com/revi...cific-barbican

New great review and great comments about Sam

"It would only be half the show without her"

Me either! it doesn't seem the same without Sam/Ronnie I haven't watched it in weeks!!!

1 More Sleep 1 More Sleep!!!!!!

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/what..._fun_1_1016557

Lil bit sam praise

Hope you have fun! your going to love it, its amazing!!!!!

Thanks! My dad spoke to a friend of his who went and she said she absolutely loved it. Win win!

And holy camoly!!! It was a year ago today since the Queen Vic fire. Peggy has been gone a year.... well a year tomorrow to be precise. WOW! Where the bloody heck has time gone?

My biggest memory of that fire is Ronnie saying: "I can't" whilst resting her hand on her stomch

Lol it really is fantastic

When I tell my friends I went go and see it they're like "I've never heard of south pacific before" -.- my friends are just no fun at all!

Holy moly! its been a year?! It seems like just a few months ago...

I don't remember hardly ANY that episode LOL