I'm a bit by Ronnie in the next couple of weeks. I get David is getting loads of scenes too but with Ronnie ists like "now your back, just blend in to the background until we need you again"

I think David will be the only reason to watch non-Ronnie episodes. He is a good character - although th elove triangle I'm less than impressed with. He should be snogging Ronnie

Also, there are no Ronnie/Carl scenes so that storyline gets forgotten about too. Very indeed!

When I read the blurb about Tina Carter my first impression was - sounds very similar to another set of sisters DTC created

Tina does sound like old Roxy.

I hope there are good plans for Ronnie and Roxy and they aren't sidelined in favour of the kids and fatboy, joey, Lauren etc...

The interesting characters are always the over 30's becaude they can have a 'past'

I hope they use a lot less of the young cast from now on. From interviews like the one Babs gave today, the action from the BBC to bring in DTC, the head of drama saying that EE is very important to BBC, you get the feeling that the big guys know that the show is in trouble. I am sure they know that one of the things the viewers have complained about has been the focus on the teens and younger cast. So hopefully they will put it right and focus on the older cast.

The casting of Shirley's sister makes me feel positive about Ronnie and Roxy too, because like them Shirley was a DTC creation and she has been stuck in a rut in the last two or three years. So the fact that he is doing something to give Shirley some direction and refresh the character is reassuring that he will also care for the direction of Ronnie and Roxy. Unless Sam decides not to renew her contract I am sure we will see some great material for Ron again.

A bit disappointed about lack of Ron in the upcoming spoilers. I suppose is one of those things where you have to strike the right balance, where they don’t want to overdo it.

I am also surprised that there isn’t any Jack in the spoilers considering that he is due to leave. Surely he hasn’t got much left now as Scott has finished filming already.
I do have a feeling that Jack’s exit won’t be some great big event. It will probably be something to do with Ronnie. Aka He will ask her to go away or something. Of course Ronnie won’t leave Roxy and her family so Jack will leave as he can’t be in Walford and not be with Ronnie.

I said the same in the spoilers thread. I think it will be something that happens in the space of a week. Monday : Jack gets job offer on Planet Neptune . Tuesday - Asks Ronnie to go with him. Thursday : Ronnie tries to choose between Jack or Roxy. Friday - Jack leaves by space shuttle never to be seen again alone when Ronnie puts her sister first (hint hint Roxy )

or

Jack dies in a shock twist which would be too tragic for Ronnie! (but I would secretly be pleased so he can never come back into Ronnie's life )

Barbara talking about Pat's exit recinfirms my suspitions that BK didn't get on with some cast members. I think Sam was one of them which is why she left. At least DTC will love her character even if only for a short space of time!

I don’t think they will kill Jack off as like you say if anything it will be too tragic for Ronnie.
As for him being offered an once in a life opportunity job on Planet Neptune nothing surprises me. They packed him off to Dubai for a week for the ghastly baby swap tripe.
It may be something like he has to go and live with Penny so he has no choice but to leave. I would rather be something along these lines.

I was just about to post something like that. I guess we should be thankful that they didn't kill Ronnie off like they did poor Pat.
I still can't believe it that Pam wasn't allowed to return after asking for a break.

It wouldn't surprise me if the original plan for the baby swap was to have Ronnie become a fully fletched criminal and go on the run with Tommy, harm him, being found by the police or some lunacy like that,
which would have been complete character assassination.
Thank God for the fans furore lol to wake the producers up and make them realise how popular the character was, and that destroying her wasn't going to go down that well.

Let's face the show never really recovered after Ronnie's exit. Not that I am biased or anything
Roxy probably wasn't a favourite either, with her money being taken off the character without any rhyme or reason just so that Janine can become Walford’s millionaire instead. And the same for Jack to some extent by making him a joke with the completely pointless reveal of him being the father of Sam Mitchell's baby.

I get the feeling John Yorke stepped in because I remember reading he offered her a new contract that would be more lighter storylines. Then when she left the statement came from him.

I would love to see BK's original baby swap outline in full. I bet Ronnie was to become more evil or die in the end.

The only good thing BK did was oversee the rape reveal - which DTC outlined anyway as he was still there but they ruined the episodes by having Darren and Jodie comedy scenes in the middle.

I have all of these on tape without the darren/Jodie scenes so the episodes only run for about 15 minutes

My prediction ... (Don't read if you don't want hints towards Jacks exit)

I think Ronnie's return week has shown how irrelevant Sharon really is now. Ronnie has so much history in the show, history that majority of the viewers actually know compared to Sharon who was gone over 6 years and has no family links left. Any links she has in the show has been completely forgotten about + her relationship with Jack was complete and utter joke!

Sam is 100000000x the actress Dean is and I'd rather watch Ronnie over Sharon any day. Dean's attempt at acting during the whole pill popping storyline was embarrassing.



I think she's better off in R&R unless DTC wants the whole Mitchell family back in the Vic.

What a stinker that episode was 2004 here we come - kidneygate 2 and ReaWalford2

Luckily, Ronnie scenes shone like a halo. Loved the scenes with Roxy at the club. Its ludicrous that Roxy keeps it a secret because Ronnie is not at the Vic and not near Tommy so whats it to him?

I wish Ronnie would sort Carl's smug face in.

Ronnie's first scenes with Sam. Hopefully her last with him

Loved her ordering Joey about. He looks a bit like Jack. Maybe he will turn out to be Jack's kid aswell

I really enjoyed the Ronnie and Roxy scenes tonight. They put a smile on face. But the rest of episode was a bit boring really. :yawn:

I just rewatched the Ronnie/Roxy scenes - I wonder how much improvisation they do because some of it looks too natural - like when Ronnie laughed at Roxy's pose.

Also, liked it when Ronnie touched Roxy's scar.

I agree. The only problem I have with R&R is the set. It is terrible, so tiny, the light is all wrong, the bar, everything. Ronnie would be perfect there but I hope they will refurbish it when DTC comes.
They used to have some really great scenes there and some really good sets.

Like I posted in the episode thread, Ronnie and Roxy scenes were the only highlight. She has just arrived lol and is already the only one carrying the show.

How many more football scenes are we to endure? As for the Hartmans they are awful, Sam in particular is cringeworthy.

Can't wait for Roxy and Alfie to break up so that we can see Ronnie and Roxy together openly. And I can't wait for Alfie to be on the receiving end of Ronnie's anger when he splits up with Roxy.

LOVED the Ronnie & Roxy scenes tonight.

But - not to put a downer on everything, is Ronnie "settling in too quick"?
She was in prison for over two years. It's a massive lifestyle change. Would she really just slot back in like this?
Phil giving Ronnie his businesses to look after is a fantastic idea, but she doesn't doubt herself. I know Carl is freaking her out a bit - when he made her jump, it made me think that she reacted that same way in prison for the first few weeks. Because she really jumped out of her skin.
No further mention of counselling yet either.
It'd be good to see Ronnie try to talk to Roxy about her life in prison. Mention the counselling; mention James & Danielle.
It'll be interesting to see if EE have a s/l planned for around New Year for Ronnie.
The deaths of her children are only a few months apart. Seeing her trying to cope on the outside world with the counselling she had received would be compelling viewing for me.

I do feel like I'm complaining tonight...

Did I miss a scene after Lola & Billy came home to Ronnie with Lexi? She ran off leaving them behind, anything happen after that?
Because if not, that was poorly dealt with.

That's our Veronica!

The football stuff has been done to death. Why not Rugby for a change if we have to endure some sort of sporting malarkey?

Roxy's comment tonight about Alfie was very interesting. She knows he would go back to Kat in a heartbeat, so why not let him go?
I'm sure the "old" Ronnie would encourage Roxy to do that.

Maybe that is what this 6 month storyline for her is - about opening up more and also learning what did happen to her in prison. It does seem 'too easy' at the moment but this Carl storyline should go somewhere.

I'm sure Ronnie will talk about James in the New Years episode cos it will be the 3rd anniversary!

I think we will see more of that. Sam has said that we will see Ronnie hopefully trying to rebuild her life but there will also be hints of the past and struggles.
I am sure as we start to see more of Ronnie and Roxy together we will hear Ron talking more. There is the whole thing with Michael that is bound to bring out feelings for Ronnie. There is Jack’s exit too which I am hoping will have some sort of emotional scenes and hopefully mentions of James.

The prison staff may or may not be mentioned much. I think it depends on whether Sam decides to leave or stay. We know that something happened in prison as Ronnie was released later than originally planned and that can be something left in her backstory for it to become some sort of storyline if she stayed longer.

There was nothing after that. The next scene was Ronnie going back to the club where Jack was waiting for her for lunch.
We discussed it a few pages back that it seemed like they may have cut some scenes of Ronnie’s. The spoilers had mentioned that Ronnie couldn't tell Jack about how she felt with Lexi, when their scene was only a few seconds. And there was also meant to be a scene where Michael was supposed to meddle to make things worse for Ronnie with Carl.

I was really disappointed by the Lexi/Ronnie scene. I thought it would be longer. I expected to see more of Ronnie with Lexi when she talking to her about being terrified and scared. It felt like Ronnie's speech was cut abruptly.

EE topped tha ratings last night despite it being an average episode. I think the Ronnie return effect is playing a big part in that.

I have read a few posts in this forum alone that people have started to watch again because of Ronnie's return.

Shame there were only two Ronnie scenes tonight, but glad to have Peggy back. I really hope she returns permanently as I'd love to see Peggy, R&R, Phil, Billy et al rule the Square again.

I really enjoyed last week but this week has felt quite flat and underwhelming. There were other characters and storylines I was interested in during Ronnie's first stint to keep me watching the show but it feels too dry with The Hartmans and the teens. Will definitely keep watching for the Ronnie scenes but I felt they could have dedicated this episode to the Mitchells.

Loved Ronnie's "you'd better come through." I didn't agree with Billy when he implied that Ronnie was only putting on a front. I think she would've really geared up for war against Carl, with or without Phil's help.

I wish they would let Ronnie take on Carl instead of needing Phil back. I hope he keeps Ronnie in charge though.

Newman's EE seems to be

1. Bring in character
2. Give them a full on week
3. Fade into background (unless its either her own creation or one of the teens like Tambore/Lauren)

She is clueless what to do with all the characters at her disposal. The sooner DTC''s work goes on screen the better.