This isn't fair in my opinion! She is a normal person may have said something you disagree with or worded somthing wrong but this is too personal in my opinion and uncalled for! Sorry!

Yes she may have worded something wrong as normal people do and realistically I think it has been blown way out of proportion and dramatised! Give the woman a break! No need to get so personal not just you cloey but a few people!

I dont think its nice and realistically this thread is about john james and josie and appreciating them, I dont think this type of thing is appropriate! But what do I know !

Exactly, and that's what should be focused on. Not the performance of others.

Easily done with skylights, done it before in our old house, forget to close them, love them though. I want wooden floors. I sound like a home decorating show

I dont think anyone in here thought for one moment that Josie was inciting anything. I for one never for one instance believed that. Yes this is a John AND Josie appreciation thread and thats what we do believe it or not. We will discuss and analyse any and everthing we think puts one or the other in a bad light.
Thats our privilidge(?).
I too apologise to Den if she was misquoted.

Don't try to stick up for Den, it was done and has been a repeated activity by them and she should shamed of herself. And the worst is putting Josie's name into all these. This exact thing was done when a radio presenter said something about Josie on radio, a post was done on muckers to tweet that gentleman asking silly questions, of which I know annoyed some people on muckers. These will not do Josie any favour, at all.

She should learn to step away from Josie's personal and professional life. I know she will say: I am Josie's friend and I am trying to help her, a dear friend will never behaviour the way Den have behaved in Josie's personal & professional relationship. Have will ever heard of Amy. Nette & others that I know are truly her friends? NO

By all means report my post if you feel it is inappropriate. I do not like what she has done, I think she does stuff like this all the time and I don't think she is a friend to Josie. Of course I don't know her, I only know what she puts out in the public and I base my opinion from there.

I understand what your saying and agree to a point but what has happened today comes off the back of an incident on the Now facebook page a couple of days ago which some of us felt reflected badly on both John and Josie. I don't like them being made to look bad because of things that are actually nothing to do with them.

As for appreciation, if we think that something has happened or been said that reflects badly on John or Josie then I see that as a legitimate subject for discussion.

nah I didnt hit report Not my style would rather say my bit and thats it! yes but its not fair to assume that everything she says and does will be about josie or has josies blessing! in this case she mis wrote a post or didnt word it the way she wanted to! It happens all the time but to get slagged off for it I dont agree with and have to say! As she isnt a member of ds or a celeb or anything to really do with appreciating john or josie I dont think it should be talked about in here like it was! Just my opinion tis all think its unnecessary!

I think that concern about whether things one person or a group of people might say and how it could affect how others see Josie is appreciation of Josie, because obviously people want the best for her and might be concerned that certain actions might affect her.

If Josie has been advised by management not to go onto the Fb page, than perhaps second-hand messages - that obviously seem to get misinterpreted and then chinese whispers ensue - shouldn't be passed on or even repetition of something that Josie might have said to somebody.

It is sad that BBBOTS is crap, that's not Josie's or Emma's fault, it's the producers fault and hopefully they will see the negative response they have had and possibly change the show a bit. It hopefully will get better as there's more House activity to discuss, but at the moment they seem to be trying too hard to be like BBBM, and it doesn't seem to be going down well.

From the one I saw on opening night they didn't give Josie much opportunity to talk, which was a shame as she is the one that had been in that house the most, has the most BB on-hand experience, although I can understand them having Alex on as he was in CBB previously too.

They are not been made to look bad though as very few people would have seen untill it was all brought over here from a private facebook! It was a badly worded post I believe and nothing deserving of the insults towards her! I just prefer to have grounds for something involving an outside person who is not john or josie! I dont believe its fair to discuss something they may/ may not have said without discussing it with them! John and josie put themselves out there but there friends and family didnt and dont deserve to be discussed as they were being

Realistically though it shouldnt include discussing people who have clearly stated their wish not to be discussed here! We have all made mistakes bad posts got muddled but as she isnt on here it should be brought personally for clarification rather than to spread rumours and lead to insults against her! just my opinion!

I think that having two ex-housemates on the panel is a mistake. Maybe one ex-housemate (Josie) plus another type of guest (comedian/presenter/actor) would be better. With ex-housemates they end up talking about their own experiences (not surpisingly) rather than the new housemates. I would imagine Channel 5 have got the message that BBBOTs isn't really working and make moves to change it.

I wish Den wouldn't mention what Josies opinions on anything are.

She does not need to stand up for Josie ,there are hundreds of people who will do that if required.

Your right Divine Nettie and Amy never have said a word. Good on them .

What the heck, ppl including den are intilted to their opinions, just because she is a friend of Josies doens't mean she not allowed an opinion on a show, this is unfair to assosiate one with the other. its mean she cant say anything as it has to of come from Joise, its total madness and if you know den well you wouldnt of said these things, she has only Josie's best interest at heart but is allowed to have an opinon of her own and mortified that ppl would think that of her or even write stuff without reading posts properly. we have all had our post in the past mis-understood and so therefore I sure you would appreciate this. I am an old member of the JJJAT and very shocked by some ppl's behaviour on here, quick to knock but slow to listen its a shame after all this time ppl still feel the need to behave like this. But I'm also pleased to see some very sensible post as well. good afternoon chaps xxxxxxx shezha

I guess it's her insinuation that some things are on 'behalf' of Josie that are unappreciated. I don't personally believe it was 'badly worded' I think she worded it that way specifically to get the reaction, that's my opinion. It's like someone tweeting something out and then taking it down as they didn't mean it, it's already out there on cyber space...no take backs from there! The damage is done. There have been several incidents with this same person. So I guess I've had enough of her. I certainly don't think everything she says is assumed to be in association with Josie, it was specifially stated that it was.

I think the point that people don't like was that Josie had asked her to start this campaign. We are only discussing and like wise having our opinions on it. I don't know Den, I don't want to, she is irrelevant to me (as I am to her, not being dis-respectful when I say it) Like I would discuss a post from qwerty, she is in the same category to me.

I dont think it was meant how everyone is assuming!

She doesnt need to but thats what I would do with my friends and family too!

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I bet they have...twitter is flooded with messages! But it's CH5's first attempt at BB so there will obviously be teething issues and it won't be the same as CH4's bb. To be honest I never liked that BBLM show..

BIB: What an excuse, wonder if this applies to other people's post/tweet.

This thread is to discussion about Josie & John in respect to their actions and anything whether good or bad that might have effect on their job/life.

Afternoon shezha misunderstandings happen when word is passed on like chinese whispers! Den doesnt deserve it Xxx

Well that answers that question, it is coming back

What, where did den say that, now come on, this is ridiculous, den was saying her opinion on a show at no time did she say that, again your turning it to suit your argument, ppl for days have been passing comment on the show, so den said her feelings on it.

Yes, as long as they are prepared to take stuff on board and make changes. BB is a massive show for Channel 5. They will want to make it work. I think they have made a fundamental error in axing live feed but hopefully they are prepared to take on board criticisms of the show and make changes.

I think thats peoples own mind! and not knowing a person ? she didnt in my opinion as it was to a closed fb group ? which she later deleted as she made a mistake but your entitled to your opinion

I know but a lot of people are guilty of mis tweeting etc its a common thing on twitter, but twitter has limitations and can be hard to get your point accross! I just dont agree with the way she was being discussed when she has admitted she made a mistake with it and should be taken that way! I believe until someone shows me different she made an honest mistake and would hate to bring anything on josie!

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THANK YOU (not shouting)



As for Den's message in Muckers
Mugs, you know I love you.....

But there was really no need to bring that here to be analyzed. Now that will get spread ect on to twitter and Johnfans will no doubt twist it and use it against Josie. And MUCKERS is PRIVATE FB page, so anything on there should not be spread anywhere else.

This to me is NO DIFFERENT action than bringing stuff from Sherrie's private fb account. Private is Private and should stay that way!

I'm sorry, but this is how I feel about it!


It's also second hand information about anything that Josie might have said about the show. She hasn't said that the people on it are flat nor has she asked her supporters and fans to email Channel 5.

She has a contract. She knows exactly what her job is there is and for how many times a week. TWICE, as she has herself said

I think that is also something that muckers and her fans should accept and not try and replace anyone.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JOSIE HAS SAID NEEDS TO BE DONE!!! Not that certain group of people will believe that.