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eastenders the year so far
Loopy Lisa Chez
01-09-2004
We are almost 3/4 the way through the year....so what have you thought of EE this year so far?

Exits:

Ricky, Janine, Barry, Laura, Lynne, Little Mo, Shirley, Dan, Natalie.

Arrivals:

Jane and Chrissie the return of Sasha and soon to get the Millers

Marriages:

Sonia & Martin, Patrick and Yolande, Barry and Janine.

Deaths:

Barry and Laura.


On the whole apart from the farrrrries and the Kat Alfie Andy thing I dont think EE has been that bad
iloveeastenders
01-09-2004
I think the year start well with the Barry and Janine storyline but by February EE start to fall in term of writing and acting but the Janine storyline was the only good thing going on, so EE kept on going. The whole Ferreira storyline was crap, so was the Kat/Alfie/Andy storyline. The week when the police charge Jaine was one of the best week of EE this year, the week when Den return to find sharon and Dennis together was also great
I think April/May/June was when EE hit a all time low in writing, acting and in storyline.
Sonia & Martin wedding was ok but not great. The fairgrround disaster was piontless and crap.
EE has being inprove in the last months or so what with the Dan/Chrissie/Kate storyline, Jane and her husband, Dot and her cancer and even sometime the Ferreira are ok.
teenage-monkey
01-09-2004
Don't laugh at me for saying this, but after Lauras death and then Janine getting caugh by7 the police cars (how exciting was that? reminded me of the last episode of Alex Mack!) it started to go down hill.
Neily N
01-09-2004
HIGHS: Janine's exit episode, The Den and Dot double-hander.

LOWS: The cardboard funfair disaster, The Ferrira' kidney story, Sonia and Martin's wedding, Andy/Kat/Alfie and many others.

2004 has been one terrible year for Eastenders, and signs of improvement are very minute.
Safra
01-09-2004
IMO most of this year has been bad for EE! The only high points i can see are Janine's exit, and c few episodes which have screened recently surrounding Dots cancer storyline.
Rovers Return
01-09-2004
On the whole apart from the farrrrries and the Kat Alfie Andy thing I dont think EE has been that bad[/quote]


You must have had your head buried in the sands
Jumpy
01-09-2004
Originally Posted by teenage-monkey:
“Don't laugh at me for saying this, but after Lauras death and then Janine getting caugh by7 the police cars (how exciting was that? reminded me of the last episode of Alex Mack!) it started to go down hill.”

PMSL Alex Mack!!!

alan45
01-09-2004
Originally Posted by Rovers Return:
“On the whole apart from the farrrrries and the Kat Alfie Andy thing I dont think EE has been that bad”


You must have had your head buried in the sands [/quote]

You must have had yours buried somewhere else to have missed out on the other rubbish stories, cardboard fun-fair, the return of webcam Den, Vicky with yet another accent all the pantomime gangster stuff etc etc etc
WalfordWill
01-09-2004
The year started off with a bang with Barry's death in Scotland on New Years Day, I thought that was a superb episode, Charlie Brooks was fantastic. It made up for the rubbish HollyEnders gang stuck on a bus in the same mountain yet on some of them it was wind an rain, an the others it was clear an bright? It all went a bit pear shaped from there when Janine returns to Walford less than 72 hours later with Barry cremated and in an urn.

The Ferreiras continued to work their magic with the most boring storyline of the year, the kidney transplant, more water was added to the flame when Tariq is revealed to be their brother! cue some icky scenes with Kareena trying to bed him before he actually takes his tongue out of her mouth long enough to tell her "I'm your bruvver!" Before all that we were all gripped by Shirley an Gavin and her cat!

The net soon closed in on Janine, after a week humiliating Laura, who was eventually murdered by a cuddly toy. A devestated Pat vowed revenge on Janine after finding about their catfight just minutes before Laura's death. In the best epi of the year, Janine is arrested for Laura's murder, ironic she gets away with murder she DID commit, an is sent down for something she didn't do

Things looked up a bit up toward Den's 2nd return, Shannis was in full bloom. Den's return saw one of the best scenes in EE this year, Dennis smashing his way through the pub to get to Den, then clobbering Sharon.

Cue the summer and the "hot weather" and EastEnders hits an all time low with the worst acting an writing ever, this was in turn met with the huge drop in ratings. Summer on EE was anything but hot. The fairground disaster proved pointless, what should have been a means to clear out deadwood was only used to kill Lynne's baby, and also introduce Jane, the best thing to hit Albert Square. The dauldrums continued with Jack the old aged pensioner nobody knew existed, he died an they all gave him a big send off, utter tripe.

Martin and Sonia "as if" couple in soap, got married, *yawn* cue more weeks of them trying to escape Pauline, I tell ye more people hae escaped Alcatraz than those who have escaped the Fowler household, usually only escaping if you die or run off to America. Martin doesn't stand a chance!

Up to present day an things seem a bit more on the up. Dot's cancer storyline has been very well handled thus far with some great acting from June Brown. Her two hander with Den was praised as the best EE of this year, well theres not a lot of competition is there.

With the Millers on the horizon things can hopefully only get better! well lets face it, they can't get much bloody worse can they.
chocopop
01-09-2004
Has anyone else noticed that although we hate him - The best storylines have involved Den? I think it was the Chrissie/Kate/Den thing that saved EE from the ultimate low. The Watts create such good storylines.
WalfordWill
01-09-2004
True chocopop
chocopop
01-09-2004
Originally Posted by willhung:
“True chocopop”

Lippincote
01-09-2004
Not sure the Watts have 'saved' EE, chocopop - the denouement of the Chrissy/Kate/Den thing was good, but the endless episodes beforehand with Chrissy following him around, and Kate on her mobile, were terrible - as was the whole idea of him shagging her.

The Watts also brought us the dreaded Shannis. Enough said. Dennis is nice though

The only good thing Den has done IMO is the Dot/Den twohander. And let;s face it, that was more down to Dot than him!
TheWalfordOne
01-09-2004
Well i'm not exactly in this groove: of course i've said over and over that it is clear and present truth that EE hasn't been the guns-blazing EE it was, say, five years ago (when John Yorke was Exec Producer, and the Slaters Saga was brutally fresh and the Mitchell/Fowler war was unfolding powerfully). In fact, it has been really pretty shit for much of 2004.

If memory serves me right, the major plots which ran over the first few months of this year were: Janine the Butcher; The Kidney Saga; Blackmailing the Moons; and the Mush that was Shannis. Now the construction of ALL of these plots was stultifyingly poor, and it weakened EE to the state it found itself in. But I remember odd little moments of good stuff which were almost always let-down by crap construction: the Kat and Alfie in the scene where they handed over the £7000 to Graham the rapist in the solicitors office was strong (as was the preceeding story where Charlie - who is now totally void of character - beat the crap out of him in his cab), but was let down by the never ending blackmail from Andy "the yawn" Hunter, who had no point anyway and managed, through this plot, to drain Alfie of his charm; the climax of The Butcher plot was flashy, but I thought Janine became a bit of a panto villain in the end, almost as bad as Richard Hillman (why can't soaps keep it 'real'... Evil Trevor went too far, Mad Maya I find a joke, even The Stokes in Emmerdale is like a cartoon nasty), and why did her exit come out of nowhere after a two week spat with Laura "the frump" Beale? It had dragged on for ages, too long. She should have been gone in February. The Shannis thing (I really hate that word) was toe-curlingly annoying, and I thought that, as willhung mentioned, the 2nd return of Den, where Pauline welcomed him with the "same house, same room, same bed" speech. And where Dennis flipped out and wacked Sharon was good.

So there were good moments there, no less than normal. But it was the support in between that was the let down. When there are good moments, fine. But when the bad is 'this' bad (kidneys & squatting, anyone) it brings everything down.

My personal IMO: the turning point came in June. The Kat/Alfie two hander was stronger and more consistent than we had seen for a while (and brought an end to the Blackmail plot). The writing got better during the Sonia & Martin Wedding build up (Pauline & Dot gave EE some really quality comedy moments), and, yes, the Dragon Ride was essentially pointless, but I think people criticise it too much based of the actual disaster. I really thought this was a great episode, but not because people were running around and mucking in, but because the interaction between the stranded Dot & Pauline was superb and strong. Since then, well, I think things have got better. As with the Butcher episode, I thought the Kate vs Chrissie Haircut 100 was flashy and textbook, but far too long coming. Jane has worked out well (although her obvious romance with Ian is turning into the Kat and Alfie of 2004), and naturally the Dot story has developed in the vein of old EE. Recently, I even through the otherwise deadweight characters Den and Andy worked (when the tied together over the bookies scandal and Pat), then the Den/Dot Two Hander got better, and the follow on episode (the Dot/Jim and Den/Chrissie) episode was possibly even better.

So I think EE is, right now, pretty good. Jane and Ian are pretty boring because it's so obvious how it's going to turn out. The Fereirra's were a nice idea, but they just haven't worked and need to be cut. If these changes happened, then with the Millers arriving next week, and Peggy's return [albeit brief] the week after, then I think the base building blocks are there, to set the ball rolling again.
imno12u
01-09-2004
So few people have died this year so far. Do you remember how many died in 2002.
Tom, Steve, Trevor (twice!), Jamie, Harry.
chocopop
01-09-2004
Originally Posted by TheWalfordOne:
“it has been really pretty shit”

wow - I never knew we could swear on here Dont you get reported if you do? Hmm... okays
chocopop
01-09-2004
Originally Posted by Lippincote:
“Not sure the Watts have 'saved' EE”

Lippin, the way you said that made out that what I said was more than what I meant. I didn't mean the Watts had 'saved' EastEnders, just that they stopped the show from completely loosing its grip on the viewing public during a time of need. The stroylines weren't that amazing, just good enough to stop EE from falling down a hole.
Last edited by chocopop : 01-09-2004 at 18:53
imno12u
01-09-2004
Originally Posted by imno12u:
“So few people have died this year so far. Do you remember how many died in 2002.
Tom, Steve, Trevor (twice!), Jamie, Harry.”

I forgot Angie
SteveOwen
01-09-2004
When listing this year's death you forgot Shirley's Cat and War Hero Jack - how could you? Was the Shirley The Catwoman and her Noisy Neighbour storyline really in 2004? It seems such a long time ago. Probably because I've tried my hardest to bury it deep inside my mind.

Who died in 2003 so that we can compare death rates? I can't remember anybody. Ummm...
TheWalfordOne
01-09-2004
The legendary Shirley storyline was 2003. It was around the time of the Indian Wedding, the only half decent thing the F's have ever done. You know, back then I actually thought they were going to work out half well.
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