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Old 03-12-2016, 11:38
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To those who say that he just does the same thing every day and talks about the same things every day, remember that every daily radio show is the same every day!

All Scott Mills does every day is play pop music interspersed with the odd game or anecdote.

All the Today programme do every day is report on news and current affairs.

All Radio 3 do every day is play classical music.

And so on. Every radio show has a certain format, and you get exactly the same format day in day out. But as formats go, I would say Allen's show is the most original format on radio. I have never known of any other radio show which simply consists of 3 hours of monologue - I often wonder if any other such show exists anywhere else in the world!

There's no doubt Allen is an odd man. He is very mean-spirited at times, bordering on cruel (especially during his free podcast which seems to be much more vitriolic than his actual show). Yet there is clearly a sweeter side to him as well and people tell me he is very charming off air.

Long may he stay on LBC. Steve is a single man with no family and I get the impression the show is everything to him. There's a strange reciprocal arrangment between him and his listeners - thousands rely on him to stop them from feeling lonely in the early hours yet he too relies on them to combat his own lonliness. It sounds like a win win situation to me. There are too many formulaic call in debate shows on LBC and when Allen finally does go I hope they can find someone who can deliver the same format of show (although I very much doubt anyone else can).

I genuinely think Allen is one of the best kept secrets in radio. I think there are thousands more people out there who would love his show if only they knew about it. I often wish LBC would do a better job of promoting him.
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Old 03-12-2016, 13:11
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he nearly came unstuck with his 'in conversation' with Jo Malone,when his blatant materialism almost made him look sheepish.He tried to push her about how much she sold her business for,and Jo was rather irritated by his nosiness.
Is it strange that he is a member of the magic circle but never mentions it? he isn't usually reluctant to crow about something.
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Old 03-12-2016, 18:52
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he nearly came unstuck with his 'in conversation' with Jo Malone,when his blatant materialism almost made him look sheepish.He tried to push her about how much she sold her business for,and Jo was rather irritated by his nosiness.
Is it strange that he is a member of the magic circle but never mentions it? he isn't usually reluctant to crow about something.
So let me get this straight - he had a guest in conversation and asked her a question he and many listeners would have been interested in. She was perfectly within her rights not to answer it, as turned out to be the case.

Wow.
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Old 03-12-2016, 18:54
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To those who say that he just does the same thing every day and talks about the same things every day, remember that every daily radio show is the same every day!

All Scott Mills does every day is play pop music interspersed with the odd game or anecdote.

All the Today programme do every day is report on news and current affairs.

All Radio 3 do every day is play classical music.

And so on. Every radio show has a certain format, and you get exactly the same format day in day out. But as formats go, I would say Allen's show is the most original format on radio. I have never known of any other radio show which simply consists of 3 hours of monologue - I often wonder if any other such show exists anywhere else in the world!

There's no doubt Allen is an odd man. He is very mean-spirited at times, bordering on cruel (especially during his free podcast which seems to be much more vitriolic than his actual show). Yet there is clearly a sweeter side to him as well and people tell me he is very charming off air.

Long may he stay on LBC. Steve is a single man with no family and I get the impression the show is everything to him. There's a strange reciprocal arrangment between him and his listeners - thousands rely on him to stop them from feeling lonely in the early hours yet he too relies on them to combat his own lonliness. It sounds like a win win situation to me. There are too many formulaic call in debate shows on LBC and when Allen finally does go I hope they can find someone who can deliver the same format of show (although I very much doubt anyone else can).

I genuinely think Allen is one of the best kept secrets in radio. I think there are thousands more people out there who would love his show if only they knew about it. I often wish LBC would do a better job of promoting him.
I am wary of assuming Steve's personal situation, but otherwise you've summed up my position on him and his show way better than I ever could.
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Old 03-12-2016, 22:32
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So let me get this straight - he had a guest in conversation and asked her a question he and many listeners would have been interested in. She was perfectly within her rights not to answer it, as turned out to be the case.

Wow.
'he and many listeners would be interested in'? why???? She said she was happy with what she got,so who needs or wants to know how much???No wonder she told him,politely,to mind his own business.Strikes me that the only thing he has in his life is money and thus the only way he can judge his self-worth.
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Old 03-12-2016, 23:07
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To those who say that he just does the same thing every day and talks about the same things every day, remember that every daily radio show is the same every day!

All Scott Mills does every day is play pop music interspersed with the odd game or anecdote.

All the Today programme do every day is report on news and current affairs.

All Radio 3 do every day is play classical music.

And so on. Every radio show has a certain format, and you get exactly the same format day in day out. But as formats go, I would say Allen's show is the most original format on radio. I have never known of any other radio show which simply consists of 3 hours of monologue - I often wonder if any other such show exists anywhere else in the world!

There's no doubt Allen is an odd man. He is very mean-spirited at times, bordering on cruel (especially during his free podcast which seems to be much more vitriolic than his actual show). Yet there is clearly a sweeter side to him as well and people tell me he is very charming off air.

Long may he stay on LBC. Steve is a single man with no family and I get the impression the show is everything to him. There's a strange reciprocal arrangment between him and his listeners - thousands rely on him to stop them from feeling lonely in the early hours yet he too relies on them to combat his own lonliness. It sounds like a win win situation to me. There are too many formulaic call in debate shows on LBC and when Allen finally does go I hope they can find someone who can deliver the same format of show (although I very much doubt anyone else can).

I genuinely think Allen is one of the best kept secrets in radio. I think there are thousands more people out there who would love his show if only they knew about it. I often wish LBC would do a better job of promoting him.
Yet another absolutely excellent post in this thread. He's one of those broadcasters who'll be appreciated more when he's gone. You may or may not like everything he does, but I'd recommend everyone enjoys while they still can.
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:32
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Yet another absolutely excellent post in this thread. He's one of those broadcasters who'll be appreciated more when he's gone. You may or may not like everything he does, but I'd recommend everyone enjoys while they still can.
I'm not sure about your comments but I certainly agree with your last paragraph.
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:00
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'he and many listeners would be interested in'? why???? She said she was happy with what she got,so who needs or wants to know how much???No wonder she told him,politely,to mind his own business.Strikes me that the only thing he has in his life is money and thus the only way he can judge his self-worth.
I agree, that's nosy and she obviously wants to keep her business affairs private. He's interested in money, the snob that he is, he doesn't disclose how much money he has, so why should he poke his nose in and join the 'how much do you earn/are worth' bandwagon that's on at the moment.

He should be saying "I'm not remotely interested, couldn't care less" like he usually does.
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:33
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steve allen knows very little about what he is talking about, to an audience who know no better and think he does know.. or they don't care and just like the sound of his voice and "something live" in the room.

he is often two faced.. belittling people who work for tax minimizing companies like starbucks while he works for a company that has made use of similar structures.

either he dumbs down to what his listener wants - and remember he is selling a "show" which he has done a long time so knows what it is his listener wants to hear or he is that misinformed who knows...

but lbc is not the "information is power" place that it never made any money being of the past... it is a mass market fluff station that is positioned as a light weight radio 5... and if people read the daily star expecting to be informed.. well...

it's too stupid for me.
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Old 04-12-2016, 15:47
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steve allen knows very little about what he is talking about, to an audience who know no better and think he does know.. or they don't care and just like the sound of his voice and "something live" in the room.

he is often two faced.. belittling people who work for tax minimizing companies like starbucks while he works for a company that has made use of similar structures.

either he dumbs down to what his listener wants - and remember he is selling a "show" which he has done a long time so knows what it is his listener wants to hear or he is that misinformed who knows...

but lbc is not the "information is power" place that it never made any money being of the past... it is a mass market fluff station that is positioned as a light weight radio 5... and if people read the daily star expecting to be informed.. well...

it's too stupid for me.
spot on
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Old 06-12-2016, 10:49
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Who is the 'we'he refers to sometimes? He's single and claims not to want a relationship.
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Old 06-12-2016, 13:06
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Who is the 'we'he refers to sometimes? He's single and claims not to want a relationship.
He often does that. Makes use of the plural pronoun 'We'. It's just a way of referring to his gang of kronies as more often than not he's not unaccompanied. Also he claims to be single and from long term listening you'd certainly get that impression, but I don't suppose he is. It's just a way of remaining in the closet. When has he ever referred to a romantic partner of any sort? It probably keeps it easier that way and stops any questions from arising. In 30 odd years of listening I've not noticed him play it any other way. Still a legend though.
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Old 06-12-2016, 13:30
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To those who say that he just does the same thing every day and talks about the same things every day, remember that every daily radio show is the same every day!

All Scott Mills does every day is play pop music interspersed with the odd game or anecdote.

All the Today programme do every day is report on news and current affairs.

All Radio 3 do every day is play classical music.

And so on. Every radio show has a certain format, and you get exactly the same format day in day out. But as formats go, I would say Allen's show is the most original format on radio. I have never known of any other radio show which simply consists of 3 hours of monologue - I often wonder if any other such show exists anywhere else in the world!

There's no doubt Allen is an odd man. He is very mean-spirited at times, bordering on cruel (especially during his free podcast which seems to be much more vitriolic than his actual show). Yet there is clearly a sweeter side to him as well and people tell me he is very charming off air.

Long may he stay on LBC. Steve is a single man with no family and I get the impression the show is everything to him. There's a strange reciprocal arrangment between him and his listeners - thousands rely on him to stop them from feeling lonely in the early hours yet he too relies on them to combat his own lonliness. It sounds like a win win situation to me. There are too many formulaic call in debate shows on LBC and when Allen finally does go I hope they can find someone who can deliver the same format of show (although I very much doubt anyone else can).

I genuinely think Allen is one of the best kept secrets in radio. I think there are thousands more people out there who would love his show if only they knew about it. I often wish LBC would do a better job of promoting him.
Promote what? The shows have no direction, it's just syrup!
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Old 06-12-2016, 13:43
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Promote what? The shows have no direction, it's just syrup!
Emmmm.....syrup.
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Old 06-12-2016, 13:48
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To those who say that he just does the same thing every day and talks about the same things every day, remember that every daily radio show is the same every day!

All Scott Mills does every day is play pop music interspersed with the odd game or anecdote.

All the Today programme do every day is report on news and current affairs.

All Radio 3 do every day is play classical music.

And so on. Every radio show has a certain format, and you get exactly the same format day in day out. But as formats go, I would say Allen's show is the most original format on radio. I have never known of any other radio show which simply consists of 3 hours of monologue - I often wonder if any other such show exists anywhere else in the world!

There's no doubt Allen is an odd man. He is very mean-spirited at times, bordering on cruel (especially during his free podcast which seems to be much more vitriolic than his actual show). Yet there is clearly a sweeter side to him as well and people tell me he is very charming off air.

Long may he stay on LBC. Steve is a single man with no family and I get the impression the show is everything to him. There's a strange reciprocal arrangment between him and his listeners - thousands rely on him to stop them from feeling lonely in the early hours yet he too relies on them to combat his own lonliness. It sounds like a win win situation to me. There are too many formulaic call in debate shows on LBC and when Allen finally does go I hope they can find someone who can deliver the same format of show (although I very much doubt anyone else can).

I genuinely think Allen is one of the best kept secrets in radio. I think there are thousands more people out there who would love his show if only they knew about it. I often wish LBC would do a better job of promoting him.
I think you are right........there is definitely something needy,sad,bitter and not a little desperate going on in the 'relationship' you speak of.......the fact that the subject matter never gets above the banal,trite and utterly basic is almost as sad. Why do I hear it now and again ? I don't know but I'd like to think is just to confirm that its as bad as it it always was.
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:25
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He seems to try and buy friendship which is rather sad. He buys lots of chocolates for LBC staff but more oddly buys many things he doesn't want so that he can give them to his brother who, he says, sells them on e-bay. I'm sure a psychiatrist would have a field day.
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:24
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A psychiatrist would also have a field day with someone who comes on to a radio forum and launches a personal attack on someone they don't know. Or, indeed, someone who feels the need to respond to them.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:26
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I think you are right........there is definitely something needy,sad,bitter and not a little desperate going on in the 'relationship' you speak of.......the fact that the subject matter never gets above the banal,trite and utterly basic is almost as sad. Why do I hear it now and again ? I don't know but I'd like to think is just to confirm that its as bad as it it always was.
But surely a lot of the listeners enjoying Steve's company are insomniacs, taxi drivers, shift workers etc. What exactly is one expected to do socially at 4am? Go for a coffee with friends? Steve is providing a useful service for people who find themselves up at that time for one reason or another.
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Old 07-12-2016, 08:45
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I only ever hear the free podcast these days. I used to hear more of the show because I'm up early anyway but when it started finishing up at 6.30 I bailed. I could still hear half an hour but I'm usually dashing around the house being late for my train

I tend to listen to binge listen to the podcasts.. Might go a week or two without listening then just line them up "good lord I thought their career finished aaaages ago"

One thing I dislike is that he has his "pet celebrities" who seem just as dreadful as the people he tears apart. Suppose he had a nice "conversation" with them once...
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:22
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To those who say that he just does the same thing every day and talks about the same things every day, remember that every daily radio show is the same every day!

All Scott Mills does every day is play pop music interspersed with the odd game or anecdote.

All the Today programme do every day is report on news and current affairs.

All Radio 3 do every day is play classical music.

And so on. Every radio show has a certain format, and you get exactly the same format day in day out. But as formats go, I would say Allen's show is the most original format on radio. I have never known of any other radio show which simply consists of 3 hours of monologue - I often wonder if any other such show exists anywhere else in the world!

There's no doubt Allen is an odd man. He is very mean-spirited at times, bordering on cruel (especially during his free podcast which seems to be much more vitriolic than his actual show). Yet there is clearly a sweeter side to him as well and people tell me he is very charming off air.

Long may he stay on LBC. Steve is a single man with no family and I get the impression the show is everything to him. There's a strange reciprocal arrangment between him and his listeners - thousands rely on him to stop them from feeling lonely in the early hours yet he too relies on them to combat his own lonliness. It sounds like a win win situation to me. There are too many formulaic call in debate shows on LBC and when Allen finally does go I hope they can find someone who can deliver the same format of show (although I very much doubt anyone else can).

I genuinely think Allen is one of the best kept secrets in radio. I think there are thousands more people out there who would love his show if only they knew about it. I often wish LBC would do a better job of promoting him.
i suppose his is more of a show based on facts than the rest of lbc output which is directed to pander to the fantasies of the alt-right and ukip-ers.

as for monologues on the radio .. its what lbc does.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:15
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A psychiatrist would also have a field day with someone who comes on to a radio forum and launches a personal attack on someone they don't know. Or, indeed, someone who feels the need to respond to them.
Unless you have something to contribute to the discussion, I suggest you go elsewhere.
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:28
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When 'in conversation with' Jo malone the other day,he remarked that as her father had been in the magic circle,that was something he had in common with her. Huh? is it part of the aim of the interview to establish 'something in common'?? It's totally irrelevant. And today he is rude to the taxi driver and complains when the driver says 'dont be so rude' so he has to get another cab.He is always in conflict with the cab company,so Why doesnt he drive in?? He mentioned that he didnt like being spoken to like that by a 'comon man',which tells us a lot about him!Too expensive in the gas-guzzling Bentley,I suppose!
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:11
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Did anyone hear him going on about the new £5 note he'd allegedly found that was potentially worth £50?

He excitedly suggested that he could do with that amount of money and how he'd spend it.

I should think he earns far in excess of that anyway. It was probably a wind-up, but it didn't take away any feelings of repulsiveness I often feel for his diatribes.
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:04
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I should think he earns far in excess of that anyway. It was probably a wind up.....
Steve, winding listeners up....Surley you were listening to a different station....
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Old 08-12-2016, 23:36
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Did anyone hear him going on about the new £5 note he'd allegedly found that was potentially worth £50?

He excitedly suggested that he could do with that amount of money and how he'd spend it.

I should think he earns far in excess of that anyway. It was probably a wind-up, but it didn't take away any feelings of repulsiveness I often feel for his diatribes.
What really winds him up is when the 2am Taxi arrives late or not at all, maybe they are winding him up for fun.

Got to laugh
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