Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
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Please excuse my ranting rage!! This is not aimed at anyone in particular they are just my thoughts on circumstances as they are .. this most likely will not be very coherent and for that I am sorry. Like I said previously, feel free to skip over or ignore this essay of a post it is of no interest to you. I won't be offended in the least!
The words double standards and hypocrisy are being thrown around a lot today (A phrase and a word I have grown to dislike intensely due to their overusage in recent times!!) often in our direction .. I'm not even sure where to begin but I can only comment on the information I have seen and things I have heard .. and have formulated my own views from this.. I have not searched out or tried to uncover 'evidence' of all the latest happenings so I may not be totally clued up on all that has gone on.
From what I understand, a twitlonger has been circulated and tweeted to Josie with some negative comments regarding her. These comments were taken from a PRIVATE FB group and then distributed for all to see! Now, I haven't seen the comments and maybe I wouldn't agree with them but the fact that they have been copied and pasted from a PRIVATE FB group - is WRONG!! If it had been from the Muckers group with comments regarding John, I'd feel EXACTLY the same way. Private is private and should be KEPT private!! Hacking is illegal and spying is cowardly and gutless! What satisfaction can this person have gained from doing this?
I can only determine that it was done to PROVOKE reactions and cause further contentions between the camps (loys vs muckers) If they really are a supporter of Josie, and has reasoned this with having her 'best intentions at heart' .. HOW HAVE THEY DONE THAT?? Josie seems to be in a good place right now - mean comments would just upset her, so why would you want to bring these to her attention? If you care about a person, you don't want to see them hurt.. so why would you point out hurtful remarks to them?
Her and John are the recipient of numerous hateful tweets on a daily basis as it is .. if they wanted to seek these out they'll find them themselves!
All this tattling and whispering is FUELING fires not extinguishing them! There are enough petty squabbles on twitter as it is - without all this crap. I think it wasn't very thoughtful to inform Josie of such comments as they were bound to get to her and cause her to lash out (I would have acted the same way if this had been done to me) Some can say that she should have ignored this and not react to it .. and yes, maybe this would have been a better course of action if she had just dismissed it and shown that she didn't give a damn - but it's JOSIE GIBSON as ifffff she's going to. Some even tweeted that they would have IGNORED this if they were her ... yet, when the shoe is on the other foot and comments have been made to or ABOUT them .. they shout how angry they are from the rooftops and don't hold back how they feel! So why expect her to be any less human?
No, Josie shouldn't have branded all 'loys' with the same stick. I happen to be friends with some lovely ones who actually do like her as well - they just prefer John. But when people are telling her over and over and over that it is EVERYONE in this group making these kind of comments .. what is she supposed to think? She can't see what is said she's not on the group - she gets told select comments from a small minority of the group.
I am angered when some people lump me and us collectively on here .. they tar us all with the same brush - when we are individuals - who share some opinions but have our own thoughts and feelings too. We're not clones or robots of each other - we don't fit into neat, little categories. We shouldn't be generalised other than us all being here for one reason - each other!!
I am my OWN person with my own mind. I am not an adult who is influenced/swayed/brainwashed by others. I will come to my own conclusions and won't be frightened to say how I feel. I'm NOT a flying monkey/zombie/fool or any number of insulting adjectives for supporting and liking Josie still.
I am NOT a DM/ only interested in John because of his looks or any other number of insulting adjectives for supporting and liking John after all this time either!
Neither, am I deluded/pathetic/living in the past/need a life because I post on the JJJAT (for the love of two H'AMAZING individuals who used to be best friends and a couple) so why am I stamped with these tags??
I AM .. a level-headed, intelligent young woman. I do not take kindly to being targetted in these ways or being brandished in the same way as some of the more extremist fans on either side. I will think for myself - I'm not always right but I won't be intimidated for daring to have a different point of view. I WON'T!!
It also irritates me when SOME John supporters exclaimed how HORRIFIED they were when Sherrie's private FB conversations were broadcast. But earlier, when someone was leaking snippets on twitter about comments supposedly made by John on her wall and pictures they 'awwwww'ed and pleaded for screencaps from her PRIVATE fb!! The fact is, no content from her personal fb account should EVER have been put onto twitter!! It was sooooooooooo wrong!
I don't think that aaaaanything from a private fb account, or private loys/muckers group, or private ANYTHING should make it's way here ... even if it is making the rounds on twitter - then it is available to view there but please let's try not to bring it onto here.
If some people are so APPALLED by the actions they are condemning and persecuting others for doing .. why then do they find it perfectly ACCEPTABLE to do the same thing themselves before or after????
They tweet about their outrage but are guilty of some of the same actions! There are more worthwhile causes to be losing sleep over and falling out with people over.
And as for the disgusting tweets John was receiving over night ... there are no words!! I will just say "Don't take the bait of those who encourage hate, leave them to be to wallow in their misery!" (wise words from me) They may THRIVE off any attention you give them back.. some of you mean well by trying to make it stop - but when they see they are provoking such intense reactions in people they will only get worse. Try not to dignify any of this dreadful behaviour with a direct response to them. It will spur them on!
And breeeeeeeathe!!
I'm so sorry for this but it is all off my chest now ... thanks to anyone who takes the time to actually read this assortment of views!”
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Please excuse my ranting rage!! This is not aimed at anyone in particular they are just my thoughts on circumstances as they are .. this most likely will not be very coherent and for that I am sorry. Like I said previously, feel free to skip over or ignore this essay of a post it is of no interest to you. I won't be offended in the least!
The words double standards and hypocrisy are being thrown around a lot today (A phrase and a word I have grown to dislike intensely due to their overusage in recent times!!) often in our direction .. I'm not even sure where to begin but I can only comment on the information I have seen and things I have heard .. and have formulated my own views from this.. I have not searched out or tried to uncover 'evidence' of all the latest happenings so I may not be totally clued up on all that has gone on.
From what I understand, a twitlonger has been circulated and tweeted to Josie with some negative comments regarding her. These comments were taken from a PRIVATE FB group and then distributed for all to see! Now, I haven't seen the comments and maybe I wouldn't agree with them but the fact that they have been copied and pasted from a PRIVATE FB group - is WRONG!! If it had been from the Muckers group with comments regarding John, I'd feel EXACTLY the same way. Private is private and should be KEPT private!! Hacking is illegal and spying is cowardly and gutless! What satisfaction can this person have gained from doing this?
I can only determine that it was done to PROVOKE reactions and cause further contentions between the camps (loys vs muckers) If they really are a supporter of Josie, and has reasoned this with having her 'best intentions at heart' .. HOW HAVE THEY DONE THAT?? Josie seems to be in a good place right now - mean comments would just upset her, so why would you want to bring these to her attention? If you care about a person, you don't want to see them hurt.. so why would you point out hurtful remarks to them?
Her and John are the recipient of numerous hateful tweets on a daily basis as it is .. if they wanted to seek these out they'll find them themselves!
All this tattling and whispering is FUELING fires not extinguishing them! There are enough petty squabbles on twitter as it is - without all this crap. I think it wasn't very thoughtful to inform Josie of such comments as they were bound to get to her and cause her to lash out (I would have acted the same way if this had been done to me) Some can say that she should have ignored this and not react to it .. and yes, maybe this would have been a better course of action if she had just dismissed it and shown that she didn't give a damn - but it's JOSIE GIBSON as ifffff she's going to. Some even tweeted that they would have IGNORED this if they were her ... yet, when the shoe is on the other foot and comments have been made to or ABOUT them .. they shout how angry they are from the rooftops and don't hold back how they feel! So why expect her to be any less human?
No, Josie shouldn't have branded all 'loys' with the same stick. I happen to be friends with some lovely ones who actually do like her as well - they just prefer John. But when people are telling her over and over and over that it is EVERYONE in this group making these kind of comments .. what is she supposed to think? She can't see what is said she's not on the group - she gets told select comments from a small minority of the group.
I am angered when some people lump me and us collectively on here .. they tar us all with the same brush - when we are individuals - who share some opinions but have our own thoughts and feelings too. We're not clones or robots of each other - we don't fit into neat, little categories. We shouldn't be generalised other than us all being here for one reason - each other!!
I am my OWN person with my own mind. I am not an adult who is influenced/swayed/brainwashed by others. I will come to my own conclusions and won't be frightened to say how I feel. I'm NOT a flying monkey/zombie/fool or any number of insulting adjectives for supporting and liking Josie still.
I am NOT a DM/ only interested in John because of his looks or any other number of insulting adjectives for supporting and liking John after all this time either!
Neither, am I deluded/pathetic/living in the past/need a life because I post on the JJJAT (for the love of two H'AMAZING individuals who used to be best friends and a couple) so why am I stamped with these tags??
I AM .. a level-headed, intelligent young woman. I do not take kindly to being targetted in these ways or being brandished in the same way as some of the more extremist fans on either side. I will think for myself - I'm not always right but I won't be intimidated for daring to have a different point of view. I WON'T!!
It also irritates me when SOME John supporters exclaimed how HORRIFIED they were when Sherrie's private FB conversations were broadcast. But earlier, when someone was leaking snippets on twitter about comments supposedly made by John on her wall and pictures they 'awwwww'ed and pleaded for screencaps from her PRIVATE fb!! The fact is, no content from her personal fb account should EVER have been put onto twitter!! It was sooooooooooo wrong!
I don't think that aaaaanything from a private fb account, or private loys/muckers group, or private ANYTHING should make it's way here ... even if it is making the rounds on twitter - then it is available to view there but please let's try not to bring it onto here.
If some people are so APPALLED by the actions they are condemning and persecuting others for doing .. why then do they find it perfectly ACCEPTABLE to do the same thing themselves before or after????
They tweet about their outrage but are guilty of some of the same actions! There are more worthwhile causes to be losing sleep over and falling out with people over. And as for the disgusting tweets John was receiving over night ... there are no words!! I will just say "Don't take the bait of those who encourage hate, leave them to be to wallow in their misery!" (wise words from me) They may THRIVE off any attention you give them back.. some of you mean well by trying to make it stop - but when they see they are provoking such intense reactions in people they will only get worse. Try not to dignify any of this dreadful behaviour with a direct response to them. It will spur them on!
And breeeeeeeathe!!
I'm so sorry for this but it is all off my chest now ... thanks to anyone who takes the time to actually read this assortment of views!”
Well said Cheeky
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I had to have a word with myself as it wasn't long before the floodgates opened