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Old 23-08-2011, 19:15
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Ok this idea has had mixed opinions in the other BB forum and even when i have mentioned it to my friends some saying it would not work and some saying it would.

I think C5 should do a trial run of the BB US format next year maybe have it run for 8 weeks. one of the biggest things that could effect it is the public voting as alot of people would be P*ssed that they have no say in who goes and who wins blah blah blah.

But i have been watching BB USA since last year and imo there format is much better and it will be seen as a game show rather then 'the social experiment' which for me BB UK is no longer one anyway and that was before C5 brought it.

I think it should be marketed as a 'New take on Big Brother... The big Brother Game'.

It could be a winning formula for C5, yeah the public wont have much of say who wins but it would make great TV entertainment and be the new game game show.

I say this cause its a thought that i have had in my head for months

They could keep the Celebrity version the same as its always been just to have some sort of income from the public and to fund 'Normal Big Brother'. I wouldnt say have no public input at all we could still have a say in the tasks for example when BB USA ask America to vote which tasks they want the HM's to do. It properly wouldn't bring in as much money as voting people out but theres always people who would vote in some form.

I understand BB USA did do a Public vote in the 1st season im not sure but the producers i think saw it as a bit bland god characters leave and we are left with the dull ones which is what happens in our version, anyone under the radar sales through to the finals, but with the US format the HM's would notice the 'floaters' and get rid of them. Fake showmances would be destroyed.

What does everybody else think and what would you do if you were C5 and decided to do the US format?
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Old 23-08-2011, 19:23
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I think it at this point Endemol should just create it as a separate show for the UK, don't call it Big Brother, but use the US format.
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Old 23-08-2011, 20:19
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I still think they should incorporate the two. Have BB USA format, but have public voting instead of the houseguests voting. We'd get strategy that way for certain, and the public still gets their say.
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Old 23-08-2011, 20:37
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Strategy is then influenced by the public opinion though, which weakens the strategic game. I think everything was working ok in the British version until they started to mess about with it, such as allowing too much outside information in.
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Old 23-08-2011, 20:43
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I'd love a trial run of the US format - thing is, if they wanted to make it a success they'd need to either change the name, or make sure everyone knows that the format has changed.

I don't think the public should have any say in who gets evicted, but as seen in the US show, there are many ways where C5 could make money from public participation e.g Favourite housemate at the end, any twists, the Have-not food etc.
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Old 23-08-2011, 21:05
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Strategy is then influenced by the public opinion though, which weakens the strategic game. I think everything was working ok in the British version until they started to mess about with it, such as allowing too much outside information in.
I seriously disagree, it wouldn't weaken the strategy. I've played an online BB game with that format, and there was actually more strategy than normal surprisingly. It was basically the same strategy with alliances, except Pawns come into play a lot more often, to take people out. I could go into a lot more detail, but it was pretty darn hectic strategy wise, and in my opinion a lot more fun.
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Old 23-08-2011, 21:42
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Thing is though wouldn't public voting ruin there Strategic play of the game ?

I think if C5 made it clear its a Trial run of the BB US format Public can not vote to evict or who wins etc then no one can say how they are being duped. i have made a few of my friends watch BB USA and after a few episodes they were hooked and loved the format.

I just think our format has become so stale and predictable where as the US version can never tell who is going to win or be evicted.

I really hope C5 do do at least a trial run run it for 8 weeks see how it goes.

BB UK has tried to add US elements but they leave till half way through the show and it is just pointless, we would easily see the floaters out sooner then we would with a public vote.
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Old 23-08-2011, 22:00
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All the way, or not at all. I think the British public like voting for "nice" people to take to watching a BBUSA style show, which is the antithesis of what they're used to.

I was thinking of BBUK HM's who might be suitable as HG's.

I'd love to see Victor (BB5), Luke (BB9), Stuart (BB2), Adele (BB3), Makosi (BB6) and Josie (BB11) all give it a try.
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Old 23-08-2011, 22:12
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I just think our format has become so stale and predictable where as the US version can never tell who is going to win or be evicted.
But evictions can be quite predictable in the American version, whereas in the British one HMs can occasionally be surprised by evictions.
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Old 23-08-2011, 22:34
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But evictions can be quite predictable in the American version, whereas in the British one HMs can occasionally be surprised by evictions.
true i guess its the same for both, sometimes you know who will go even with a public vote.
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Old 23-08-2011, 23:10
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Absolutely. What is the harm in a trial run?

To be honest, most people in this part of the forum will say yes to some extent. The question should be asked in the main one
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Old 23-08-2011, 23:32
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Absolutely. What is the harm in a trial run?

To be honest, most people in this part of the forum will say yes to some extent. The question should be asked in the main one
i have brought it up in there but some are like 'NO BB USA is rubbish' blah blah

does anyone know how the live feeds work on US BB i just signed up for the free trial but its just loading
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Old 24-08-2011, 00:15
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i have brought it up in there but some are like 'NO BB USA is rubbish' blah blah

does anyone know how the live feeds work on US BB i just signed up for the free trial but its just loading
Install Hotspot Shield and run it, it gives you a US ip address so you can view the feed.
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Old 24-08-2011, 03:09
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Install Hotspot Shield and run it, it gives you a US ip address so you can view the feed.
how do i do that ?

I have a mac book
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Old 25-08-2011, 16:44
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Ok this idea has had mixed opinions in the other BB forum and even when i have mentioned it to my friends some saying it would not work and some saying it would.

I think C5 should do a trial run of the BB US format next year maybe have it run for 8 weeks. one of the biggest things that could effect it is the public voting as alot of people would be P*ssed that they have no say in who goes and who wins blah blah blah.

But i have been watching BB USA since last year and imo there format is much better and it will be seen as a game show rather then 'the social experiment' which for me BB UK is no longer one anyway and that was before C5 brought it.

I think it should be marketed as a 'New take on Big Brother... The big Brother Game'.

It could be a winning formula for C5, yeah the public wont have much of say who wins but it would make great TV entertainment and be the new game game show.

I say this cause its a thought that i have had in my head for months

They could keep the Celebrity version the same as its always been just to have some sort of income from the public and to fund 'Normal Big Brother'. I wouldnt say have no public input at all we could still have a say in the tasks for example when BB USA ask America to vote which tasks they want the HM's to do. It properly wouldn't bring in as much money as voting people out but theres always people who would vote in some form.

I understand BB USA did do a Public vote in the 1st season im not sure but the producers i think saw it as a bit bland god characters leave and we are left with the dull ones which is what happens in our version, anyone under the radar sales through to the finals, but with the US format the HM's would notice the 'floaters' and get rid of them. Fake showmances would be destroyed.

What does everybody else think and what would you do if you were C5 and decided to do the US format?
I totally agree. But then I'm a massive fan of the US version. Seems to me that C5 must be aware of the huge popularity of BB in the US and have at least considered the format. Who knows they may try it on the next series.
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Old 25-08-2011, 21:45
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I totally agree. But then I'm a massive fan of the US version. Seems to me that C5 must be aware of the huge popularity of BB in the US and have at least considered the format. Who knows they may try it on the next series.
i hope they do, the US format is so good and totally addictive i dont get that with our BB anymore.

The fact the HM's decide totally introduces a whole new level to Big Brother.
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Old 26-08-2011, 17:19
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I REALLY hope they do! I really 'dislike' our version because it's so bland and dull, plus they always get weirdo's to take part which makes it, for the most part, unwatchable. Plus in our version, people walk all the time, which ruins the integrity of it, and really annoys me!

I've grown to really enjoy he US version, because not only is their format better, but the HM's are better also. Endemol/C5 need to cast stronger, less annoying HG's IMO!
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Old 26-08-2011, 18:49
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I REALLY hope they do! I really 'dislike' our version because it's so bland and dull, plus they always get weirdo's to take part which makes it, for the most part, unwatchable. Plus in our version, people walk all the time, which ruins the integrity of it, and really annoys me!

I've grown to really enjoy he US version, because not only is their format better, but the HM's are better also. Endemol/C5 need to cast stronger, less annoying HG's IMO!
exactly. its good to see people agree.

i mean the US format does work the ratings for BB are Huge in America and there ratings for season 13 are higher then ever.

I would actually apply for the US BB cause i would love to play the Game but if the uk i think i would apply i mean it will be a game then.

Our version is just so boring the castings are terrible. plus if they had the US format HM's would think twice about walking . They should higher the prize fun as tbh £100,000 is good money but if its higher say £250,000-£500,000 then it would make people really compete in the game.

I hate public voting anyway cause the public always get it wrong plus i havent voted on BB since BB 7 and that was only for the winner.

If its marketed and MADE clear to the public that this Big Brother is on a whole new level and is a GAME not a social experiment. I think it would bring a whole new audience.

And with US BB you are always hooked and wanting to see the next episode asap i have never had that with our BB even when our one was good. The US bosses have done a fantastic job with there BB and they have the best format out of any country
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Old 26-08-2011, 18:53
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And to mention the Tasks in US BB are 100x better then ours i would love to do most of the US versions tasks thy look fun and its all based on endurance.
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Old 27-08-2011, 02:15
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I'd like to see this but I'd rather see it as a completely different show. We'll call it "Head Of House" and put it on Channel 4.

In the current Celebrity Big Brother, they're allowed to talk about nominations (I read on here anyway), so if they're going to allow that on the ordinary version it may see some more strategic gameplay. They've already tried allowing only one housemate to nominate and last year they had a veto too, so nothing's impossible.
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Old 27-08-2011, 03:15
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I'd like to see this but I'd rather see it as a completely different show. We'll call it "Head Of House" and put it on Channel 4.

In the current Celebrity Big Brother, they're allowed to talk about nominations (I read on here anyway), so if they're going to allow that on the ordinary version it may see some more strategic gameplay. They've already tried allowing only one housemate to nominate and last year they had a veto too, so nothing's impossible.
but the veto and HOH were added too late into BB if its from the start right away you have people playing the game
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Old 28-08-2011, 03:18
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I have been watching Seasons 6,7,8 back to back and damm i really wish C5 would realise how much better the US format is.

Our format has been dead in the water for quite a while now imo properly since BB 6. the winners are always boring, people vote for them cause they feel sorry for them or cause they were the 'nicest housemates'

surely Endemol know the US format works better? i mean i know the UK audience likes to have interaction with shows like BB but i think as i said before if it was marketed as 'Big Brother on a whole new level and explained as a Game/competition' can the public really complain? I think it would capture the audience i mean every episode of BB USA is addictive.

It would be good if C5 did this:

*After Normal BB finishes this year, C5 announce a new type of 'Big Brother' it all gets explained in press releases brian would promote the new big Brother and explain it.

* It will launch in June and run for 10 weeks

*Advertisements begin for Competitors to enter the big Brother house and compete for £500,000 the rules on how this Big Brother works would all be explained in the application process

The Prize fund should definitely be higher it will make people think twice on how they want to play this game do they want just fame and using BB to promote themselves ? or do they want a life changing amount of money where they would be set for life?

The public interaction i couldnt care less about as the public get it wrong most times anyway.
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Old 28-08-2011, 12:00
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I would love for them to bring the format over here; it appears I'm around like minded people, because the US format is much better and exciting (thursday's eviction episode anyone?).

But my only fear would be the public rejecting it, so you would either need it as a completely new show, or like above me said, market it from the beginning as new and exciting. Maybe even show one of the US seasons to get people acclimatised?
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Old 28-08-2011, 13:59
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I would love for them to bring the format over here; it appears I'm around like minded people, because the US format is much better and exciting (thursday's eviction episode anyone?).

But my only fear would be the public rejecting it, so you would either need it as a completely new show, or like above me said, market it from the beginning as new and exciting. Maybe even show one of the US seasons to get people acclimatised?
Well if BB 12 is a complete mess which imo i think it will im disappointed with CBB so my hopes for normal BB are low.

So if BB 12 does flop they have one more chance to do something then they can use the fact BB 12 was not a success as reason to why they are changing the format.

I think once the 2nd & 3rd episode airs there will be a buzz over BB 'oh did you watch BB last night? what a bitch so and so was.

Like i have said before if C5 want Bg Brother to be there show and if BB 12 does flop then they should take on the US format, market it as the New Big Brother
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Old 28-08-2011, 18:43
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The only problem is that they won't get rid of the public vote - and the public vote will stop people from being as sneaky as they might want to be.

People like Adam in BB13 have been complete cowards all game because they want America to like them.


I was thinking of BBUK HM's who might be suitable as HG's.

I'd love to see Victor (BB5), Luke (BB9), Stuart (BB2), Adele (BB3), Makosi (BB6) and Josie (BB11) all give it a try.
Luke would be awful - remember the first Head of Household competition that seemed rigged to his favour (wannabe politician getting a political speech task) and he blew it miserably. He would have been a bigger trainwreck than Ronnie.
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