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Old 02-09-2004, 22:44
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Originally Posted by freebird2
And certainly a nicer set of channels than Sky Value.
Exactly! This is where sky rips you off. If ive been told correctly, you get only 2 pay channels on the Value pack and you pay, £13 a month?

I certainly dont call that good.
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Old 02-09-2004, 23:16
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Here, Here..........

I agree

TUTV is a BIG RIP OFF

The channels should never have been allowed onto FREEVIEW / DTT.
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:33
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Originally Posted by paulsalter
Do we need another pointless thread on this

Could you have not added this to one of the other tutv threads

To the original poster, can you define the meaning of rip off?
a waste of money for what it is!!!
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:01
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If TUTV survives as a service then presumably there are people out there who are happy to pay the £8 per month subscription fee.

I personally don't think that TUTV is worth it for me and I haven't actually lost any channels because of it. I actually get more FTA channels now than when I got the freeview box

The only possible argument for it being a "rip-off" is that the number of channels they say you get is misleading because of bandwidth and timeshares.

Time will tell if TUTV is here to stay - People should stop assuming that Freeview = DTT = Every channel has to be free!
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Old 03-09-2004, 09:20
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Originally Posted by jelly_p
If TUTV survives as a service then presumably there are people out there who are happy to pay the £8 per month subscription fee.

I personally don't think that TUTV is worth it for me and I haven't actually lost any channels because of it. I actually get more FTA channels now than when I got the freeview box

The only possible argument for it being a "rip-off" is that the number of channels they say you get is misleading because of bandwidth and timeshares.

Time will tell if TUTV is here to stay - People should stop assuming that Freeview = DTT = Every channel has to be free!
Thank you, atlast someone makes a sensible comment

I totally agree that for some people it is not worth the money and for others it is

time will tell, they have got 2 years to make a go of it, if tutv is to close, please start your speculating nearer the 2 year mark
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Old 03-09-2004, 09:40
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Agree with the last two comments,

A couple of other points that has been raised so far.

Not worth it for a bunch of UKTV Channels
Unless your interested in these channels, they offer good programming, and they're not all of the channels, only 3!

Personally I don't think that it is worth £7.99 because most of the programmes are repeats of those already shown on ATT/FTA DTT
That's your opinion, of course UKGOLD (or UKTV Gold) has always been a popular channel on SKY. also if people are not interested in all these repeats why are DVD collections of old comedy's so popular (and they must be because they're filling up my local store with them, which they wouldn't do if they weren't!) if some people are willing to buy old tv shows, I reckon there are probably a few more who are willing to pay for a tv channel (which costs less a month than a dvd in most cases!)

[sarcasm] And to the thread starter good thread pitty it's been done to death. [/sarcasm]
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:16
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Exactly! This is where sky rips you off. If ive been told correctly, you get only 2 pay channels on the Value pack and you pay, £13 a month?
Yep, only two. Sky list a number of channels, but your subscription is actually only paying for Sky One and Discovery Home&Leisure, everything else is FTA/FTV. Sky did used to offer some 'bolt on' packages to go with your basic subscription (kids pack, documentary pack, entertainment pack etc) but these seem to have gone. So now with Sky you either pay £12.50 / month for 2 channels, or you have to shell out £20.50 (soon to go up again) for the family package, admittedly you get a hell of a lot with that package, but it's also a hell of a lot of money in subscription fees.

Time will tell if TUTV is here to stay - People should stop assuming that Freeview = DTT = Every channel has to be free!
A basic point I've tried to make many times. Unfortunately, to too many people, DTT and Freeview are exactly the same thing, and both started in 2002. That there was life before Freeview seems to be a point which no one will accept.

And when people argue about TUTV trying to 'change' or 'complicate' things by introducing pay TV channels an interesting point to note is that since it's launch almost 6 years ago, only for a relatively short period of time (25th May 2002 - 29th March 2004) have there been no pay TV channels available on DTT. it's actually more 'normal' to have pay TV on DTT than it is to not.

I don't really know why myself and others are bothering to put forward a reasoned argument yet again though, since all we have to content with are nonsensical ravings with no basis in fact, and idiots who think chronic overuse of those stupid green smilies makes an argument.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:55
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Top up TV does not seem value for money, in my opinion, but that is my opinion. As a result I don't want it, but other people do want it, so what? The arguement that it takes space from Freeview seems unfounded, before TopUp, there wasn't a huge queue of broadcasters wanting to launch FTA channels.

TopUp may have a positive effect, with people knowing they can expand on their Freeview lineup for not that much, improving take-up. If that's the case they could start switching the analogue signal off earlier than 2010, potentially making way for up to 5 new multiplexes, giving you all the shopping channels you could ever need.
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Old 03-09-2004, 11:00
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I think TuTV is great, but its a bit of a con showing programms at times of their choosing, the didn't say much about that before i subscribed. Even still i think its good value for money. It shows a few good channels which are on sky, but not needing a dish on your house and a £20 odd subscription.
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Old 03-09-2004, 11:21
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£8.00 Rip offs...

Parking for a few hours at the airport...
Small bottle of Cognac from a mini bar...
Sliver of Sticky Toffee Pudding in a good Restaurant...

£8.00 Value for money...

TUTV subscription
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Old 03-09-2004, 17:02
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if you think top up tv is a waste of money tell me
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Old 03-09-2004, 17:11
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i think it is not very good value for money but i think the way they advertise is much worse. see in the argos catatlogue not once does it mention that they are not 24 hour channels and on itv2 adverts I have seen it does not tell you that they are not 24 hour channels either . there must be a lot of people that have signed up for one month and cancelled it
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Old 03-09-2004, 17:18
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No it's is exceptional value for money if you only want a few extra quality channels (E4, UKTV Gold and Discovery) compared to the lowest tier packages from the other platforms.
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Old 03-09-2004, 18:06
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Is there any point with this, you started another thread with the same title and it still on page one here
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Old 03-09-2004, 19:12
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Originally Posted by 079700
The channels should never have been allowed onto FREEVIEW / DTT.
The Channels were never on Freeview. They were on DTTV.
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Old 03-09-2004, 20:38
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Old 03-09-2004, 22:17
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Originally Posted by TUTV Viewer
£8.00 Rip offs...

Parking for a few hours at the airport...
Small bottle of Cognac from a mini bar...
Sliver of Sticky Toffee Pudding in a good Restaurant...

£8.00 Value for money...

TUTV subscription

Quality
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Old 03-09-2004, 22:33
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Personally , from an everyday sort of persons point of view, i'd like it to go, simply because it's taking up space and anyone without these special card-slot boxes can either see them and get nothing (wasting EPG space) or cant see them and face the prospect of getting virtually no new channels ever.
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Old 03-09-2004, 22:39
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Originally Posted by Davester
Personally , from an everyday sort of persons point of view, i'd like it to go, simply because it's taking up space and anyone without these special card-slot boxes can either see them and get nothing (wasting EPG space) or cant see them and face the prospect of getting virtually no new channels ever.
yes but equally I could list nearly 10 fta channels that are taking up space and i never watch them

In my opinion these are taking up space and stopping any new channels appearing
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Old 03-09-2004, 22:58
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Originally Posted by paulsalter
yes but equally I could list nearly 10 fta channels that are taking up space and i never watch them

In my opinion these are taking up space and stopping any new channels appearing
Do they include those 'lovely' shopping channels?
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Old 03-09-2004, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Thanhuk
The Channels were never on Freeview. They were on DTTV.
Thanh

Do you have to repeat everything I say ?

I said they were on FREEVIEW / DTT.

I REPEAT 'DTT'

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Old 04-09-2004, 08:51
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Originally Posted by paulsalter
Is there any point with this, you started another thread with the same title and it still on page one here
He's right Leon!

Also STOP advertising your site on the forums, because it is really pissing everyone off!
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Old 04-09-2004, 08:58
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Do you have to repeat everything I say ?

I said they were on FREEVIEW / DTT.
Why say 'Freeview/DTT'? They're not on Freeview. Freeview should not have been mentioned. Just say they are on DTT.

I REPEAT 'DTT'
I repeat, why did you say Freeview aswell?

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You're telling other people to pay attention when you hide behind those daft green smilies when people rip apart your pathetic unfounded 'arguments' and you refuse to pay attention to the facts? Oh the irony...
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Old 04-09-2004, 12:56
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Originally Posted by freebird2
Do they include those 'lovely' shopping channels?
Yes I did include the shoppin in this

If you look at it this way

tutv are using 4.5 24 hour slots
Shopping channels using 4 24 hour slots

If you add ftn into the picture (which people complain about aswell as the shopping) they are both using the same space

So fine tutv could be wasting space for non subscribers to it, but freeview/fta/dtt (whatever you call it) is also wasting valuable space
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Old 04-09-2004, 13:01
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Originally Posted by paulsalter
Yes I did include the shoppin in this

If you look at it this way

tutv are using 4.5 24 hour slots
Shopping channels using 4 24 hour slots

If you add ftn into the picture (which people complain about aswell as the shopping) they are both using the same space

So fine tutv could be wasting space for non subscribers to it, but freeview/fta/dtt (whatever you call it) is also wasting valuable space
Personally, I'd rather see tutv expand to fill those 4 24 hour slots currently occupied by the shopping channels. Not that this is going to happen.
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