Trying reading before you post. I said that if I drank one less pint PER WEEK or worked one extra half hour PER WEEK then over the course of the month, TUTV would have been paid for.


Which presumes you live in an NTL cabled area, roughly half of the allready slim odds on living in an area with any sort of cable service.


I don't think you quite get that I've seen Sky. Judging from your inability to spell or use proper grammar (something you share with most of the idiots who post in this forum) I'd wager that I've more than likely been watching Sky since before you were born. I am well aware of what it offers and I have even said myself that I will change to it one day when circumstances allow it. In the meantime, TUTV is fine for me in consideration of what it costs. And for some people, TUTV will be the only thing ever worth considering.


Firstly, the words are 'quantity' and 'quality'. Secondly, I am subscribing to them because at present DTT is the only multichannel TV option I have, and despite some people being happy with it, FTA DTT/Freeview is a service which I find extremely limited and disappointing and frankly not something I would spend much time watching. TUTV provides me with content which I otherwise couldn't get/couldn't get to the same extent, and I am happy to pay for it.


'hyperbolicalized'? How can they be guilty of a word which you just made up?


Here it comes, the 'they have confused Freeview'/'they have interfered with Freeview'/'they have nabbed space from Freeview' rubbish again. If you want to complain to anyone, complain to Freeview. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, it was they who applied a name like 'Freeview' to the entire DTT platform even though they knew that 2 of the multiplex operators continued to have specific provision to accomodate pay TV in their licences. If anyone is confused, it's their fault.

You're quite right I did misread your post...sorry

I too am sick and tired of the anti-TUTV brigade. I was a Sky subscriber until recently. TUTV suits me right now. I know it's going to get better because of the conversations I've had with the TUTV Customer Services Dept.

TUTV has stolen no bandwidth, it was already there as a provision for pay TV. Get used to TUTV being around for a long time. It will improve, it's lime-up will change and it will extend broadcasting hours for some channels.

If you only want Freeview then fine, don't subscribe to TUTV, just stop your whining.

Blue 100 won't be lasting much longer with his stupid promotion of sky and cable and trolling posts. He doesn't even understand the meaning of some of the words he uses

Indeed. I notice in particular he's using 'hyperbole' as a general replacement for 'exagerate', presumably to make out that he's clever. When in fact, a hyperbole is a deliberate exageration said as a figure of speech ("I could eat a horse", "this box weighs a ton" etc), it's not just a word to use in place of exagerate.

Calm down this is only a discussion.

At last things have simmered down a bit.
Topuptv is a rip off and it is plain as anything.It doesnt take a genius to work that out.And with that overall conclusion>

Thread closed (not officially) :sleep:

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Blue time to go mummys calling you for your dinner

What I find funny is that so many people, both Pro & Anti, make statements as fact rather than saying it is their opinion.

Guess somethings will never change when it comes to Sky Vs Cable Vs Topup Tv Vs Freeview!!!!!

Top up TV is a rip-off with Bloomberg anyway as you can watch that channel for free on the internet.

Going by that then Sky is a rip off because you can get UKTV BI, Ftn , Sky Sports News for free via Freeview yet on Sky they are Subscription

I can even play games for free on my pc so Freeview is a Rip-Off because there games channel you have to pay for

Well said

Quick poll at work - no Freeview users will subscribe and there are 4 of us - 2 with compatible kit - too expensive for too limited a selection of timeshared channels.

The bottom line is, the people that want it subscribe, the people that don't want it don't.

The people that have TUTV may have it because of convenience, a few pay channels, cheap in comparison to Sky/cable, no commitments. If they don't wanna pay one month they don't and it's their decision if they wanna pay the £20 reconnection.

You should get a job as a pollster with the Conservative party! Or maybe as Tony Blair's personal popularity pollster!

Well top up is doomed then

Personally I agree it is too expensive, FreeView should be 'as it says on the tin' free (but not more shopping channels please!). If people want to pay for TV then they should buy a Sky package.

I will probably get shot at dawn for asking this but hay you can only get shot once -

So if you have TUTV and ermm cancel it but take the card out of the box before you cancel with TUTV, then plonk it back in a few days later would your card have missed the deactivation signal -hypathetically speaking of course.

Why do you want to take out the card in the first place?

To prevent the signal from deactivating the card, whilst it's in it's touching the CAM readers so info can be passed to it, e.g. deactivation signals.

Most unlikely that will work; the cards seem to be updated each month with a rolling expiry date; checking mine, it's set to expire on the 30th of November. So, you might get at best a month's viewing after cancelling.

Effectively, they're not sending deactivation signals, I think. Instead they're updating your card with a new expiry date.

Nigel.

This would work but only in a very limited fashion. The kill signal isn't just sent once, it's sent out repeatedly until the card affected reaches the expiry date. At best you would get a few minutes for free.

Okay I have not read the full thread but the original poster seems to have failed to give a reason for saying "do you think it is a rip off".

Personal opinion here but it's not a rip off, just something I’m NOT interested in paying for, it's been debated before about the channel hours and the doggy equipment at the start but the new boxes are pretty good.

If you are INTERESTED in the line-up then it's going to be good, especially if you can not receive cable or can't have a dish it's a fair service as was ITV Digital despite the utter garbage picture and what went on behind closed doors and football rights I doubt TUTV will follow in those lines anyway.

But certainly it's a good service, £7.99 is not THAT cheap for some people but it's good in comparison to Sky's prices - cable (Telewest in particular) are very cheap if they cover your area but at the end of the day it's up to each and individual person who subscribes to decide what is best them.

That is what I think.

Cable, especially via Telewest, isn't quite as cheap if you don't want their phone service; when I last enquired they couldn't provide the ISDN phone line that I needed, and an analogue line would be useless to me, but if you don't take one, then the only TV service they were prepared to offer me was the top of the line package.

As if that wasn't enough, they claimed they didn't have wayleave to dig up the front garden. So I filled in all the forms, sent them back, and they still said they didn't have wayleave.

After pointing out to them that they did, they told me that the real reason they couldn't cable me was because they didn't have the budget (!!) to cable the whole building, which is 5 flats.

I rather reasonably pointed out that I was the only flat that wanted cable, and all they had to do was run a cable from the little port on the pavement at the end of the front garden into my living room. And I'm even prepared to pay for installation.

But no, Telewest policy is to cable the whole building, and since they don't have the budget for that, I can't have their service, even though I'm prepared to pay for the installation to my own flat.

And they wonder why they don't make a profit... You may be in a cable area; you may have the cable running less than 20 feet from your building with an access port in the pavement; but that's still no guarantee that Telewest will be able to provide you with service.

So, a basement flat that doesn't qualify for the free Sky install because of the height, no chance of cable, and I already had an OnD box - I've stuck with DTT, and I find TopUpTV a useful addition to it, and worth the 8 quid a month which, in most of London, won't even buy me four pints of beer these days.

Nigel.
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I agree with "nwhitfield" regarding telewest if you look on the website they offer many services bundled together unless you want all 3 you are not really saving much money....

Telewest charge 6p to connect ever call and you can only use Telewest internet with them, using virgin @ 12.49 a month is great with my average telephone bill at £20 a month it's still cheaper than telewest.

A lot of people get caught by telewest offering these services bundles in yes ok you start at about £30 with thress services then you need to add in Call costs and the fact that the billing has a lot to answer to and I am speaking from many friends who have left them.

Lets not give TUTV a hard time like linkinpark said it's freedom of choice, and I am sure given time TUTV will shuffle about get a really good profile of channels and work but who knows.