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Old 27-08-2011, 09:22
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:yawn: AG once again ruining the season to save her precious Vets.

I bloody hope Porsche and Kalia wins the veto tommorrow and tell the producers to **** off.

Its pathetic, just let it stay the same and lat Rachel and Jordan be evicted, stop saving them.

This is a game, there has been far to many twists this season as it is, but this one is just pathetic

AG, bitch better be fired soon
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Old 27-08-2011, 09:51
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No need to get personal in my view. It's a stupid idea, but your language is a bit strong. It's just TV.
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Old 27-08-2011, 14:03
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Err I wish people would explain what they mean in their posts, for the benefit of people who don't watch live feed.
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Old 27-08-2011, 14:13
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Long and short of it. Don't read on if you really don't want to know!


Porsche won HoH, and made a final four deal excluding Rachel and Jordan, who she planned on nominating. Kalia, Adam and Shelly would not use the veto on one of the girls, guaranteeing one of them would go home. (Rachel if possible, Jordan if Rachel won the veto)

Then suddenly, Porsche is given Pandora's Box, and rumors suggest she was forced to open it. She got $5000, but now the duos twist is back, and the houseguests are competing to win the veto for their pair.

Porsche paired with Kalia, Adam with Shelly and Rachel with Jordan. Kalia gets all the perks that Brendon and Jeff got earlier in the game - as Porsche's partner, she is now safe from eviction, and she got $5000 too.

Now, if A/S or R/J win veto, their pair is automatically safe, and the other pair go up. It means its now reasonably likely that Rachel AND Jordan will survive this week, because only one of them has to win the veto.

It's got everyone into a headrage, because it does scream blatant fix to save the Vets. It's also really unfair on Shelly, because if Rachel or Jordan win the veto, they would both come off, and control the votes this week. (Only three will vote, including Kalia) Shelly goes from being Porsche's fourth choice for elimination, to being out of the door.

Of course, the numbers are in favor of A/S/K/P winning the veto, but if they were willing to fix it like this to save J/R, there's no reason why they wouldn't come up with a veto comp that plays upto their strengths.
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Old 27-08-2011, 15:30
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Seems harsh that Porsche and Kalia get screwed - they were playing the game pretty well - at least they got 5k each to lessen the pain a little .
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Old 27-08-2011, 15:59
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We have every right to be angry about this. It's pathetic. If it works out like AG wants it too, with Rachel/Jordan winning veto, Shelly has got screwed over by AG. Simple as. And that is really unfair on Shelly. And it also means that Kalia/Porsche will have got screwed over by her too, with it being the third wasted week for Team Dani.
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Old 27-08-2011, 16:09
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Still raging about this. I don't know about the rules regarding fixing of reality shows but this goes way beyond the line imo.
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Old 27-08-2011, 16:26
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It really is ridiculous.. I don't really have anything to add to what everyone else has said. But do we know if this carries on to next week as well.. meaning the person who survives this week gets a golden key and the remaining 2 couples face off??
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Old 27-08-2011, 17:29
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It really is ridiculous.. I don't really have anything to add to what everyone else has said. But do we know if this carries on to next week as well.. meaning the person who survives this week gets a golden key and the remaining 2 couples face off??
That better not happen. That would be ridiculous at such a late stage in the game.
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Old 27-08-2011, 17:42
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Long and short of it. Don't read on if you really don't want to know!


Porsche won HoH, and made a final four deal excluding Rachel and Jordan, who she planned on nominating. Kalia, Adam and Shelly would not use the veto on one of the girls, guaranteeing one of them would go home. (Rachel if possible, Jordan if Rachel won the veto)

Then suddenly, Porsche is given Pandora's Box, and rumors suggest she was forced to open it. She got $5000, but now the duos twist is back, and the houseguests are competing to win the veto for their pair.

Porsche paired with Kalia, Adam with Shelly and Rachel with Jordan. Kalia gets all the perks that Brendon and Jeff got earlier in the game - as Porsche's partner, she is now safe from eviction, and she got $5000 too.

Now, if A/S or R/J win veto, their pair is automatically safe, and the other pair go up. It means its now reasonably likely that Rachel AND Jordan will survive this week, because only one of them has to win the veto.

It's got everyone into a headrage, because it does scream blatant fix to save the Vets. It's also really unfair on Shelly, because if Rachel or Jordan win the veto, they would both come off, and control the votes this week. (Only three will vote, including Kalia) Shelly goes from being Porsche's fourth choice for elimination, to being out of the door.

Of course, the numbers are in favor of A/S/K/P winning the veto, but if they were willing to fix it like this to save J/R, there's no reason why they wouldn't come up with a veto comp that plays upto their strengths.
The only thing I don't get with this is that she was 'forced' to open the box, how exactly?

If she wasn't forced (which I can't see being the case) and she had a choice then I don't understand all the uproar, cos she could of just not opened it.. it's called Pandora's Box for a reason.
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Old 27-08-2011, 18:03
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The only thing I don't get with this is that she was 'forced' to open the box, how exactly?

If she wasn't forced (which I can't see being the case) and she had a choice then I don't understand all the uproar, cos she could of just not opened it.. it's called Pandora's Box for a reason.
I think she originally said she didn't want to open it, and then BB offered her and Kalia $5,000 to do it.
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Old 27-08-2011, 18:14
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I heard that Porsche was offered 5 grand to open the box and the alternative was the contents of a case, which probably would have been to save Jorchel anyway.

Surely someone should contact the law about Grodner, you can't rig the game in this way when there is money involved.
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Old 27-08-2011, 22:41
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Superb idea for a twist, I congratulate the production team. It potentially makes the game more interesting, if Rachel or Jordan win veto anyway.
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Old 27-08-2011, 23:05
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Absolutely ridiculous attempt at getting Americas sweetheart to stay in the bloody game.
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Old 27-08-2011, 23:37
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If only Grodner would pick decent gameplayers as her favourites, then she wouldn't have to worry about rigging it for them all the time.

Porsche should've refused the $5000 and negotiated for more, I think Grodner would've been willing to offer way more than that just for the sake of giving America's Sweetheart and her remaining allie a lifeline.
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Old 28-08-2011, 00:01
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Love you Alison, keep up the good work!

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Old 28-08-2011, 00:38
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Yeah and the fact that this had to be done proves what bad gameplayers the vets have been over the newbies this season. How DARE they play a better game than Jordan/Rachel?

It also shows that Jeff was not who production wanted to leave during the double eviction, especially with the cries of fixing the veto which even still, he screwed up. Haha
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Old 28-08-2011, 00:46
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I don't usually buy the whole "oh, it's rigged" thing, but this is so blatantly rigged for the vets. And I have a feeling they'll win it too, meaning Shelley will go home.

Come on Porsche/Kalia! Come on Adam/Shelley (not betting on the latter duo though...)
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Old 28-08-2011, 00:52
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Yeah Im thinking if it's OTEV then all duos have a physical disadvantage apart from Jordan/Rachel. I don't see Adam or Kalia running around for too long.

And I don't buy the rigged thing either, unless it's so obvious that you need to be silly enough to believe it as is in this case. If they had mentioned it before it happenes or planned it without flaws it would be more believable.
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Old 28-08-2011, 14:19
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Blatant attempt to keep Jordan and Rachael in the game, and ruining all of Shelly's efforts as this twist will probably mean she'll be sent home. I personally would have loved to see Shelly/Porsche/Kalia/Adam play it out in the final 4 because I think they are all pretty equal competitors.

Introducing this stupid twist this late in the game is beyond ridiculous. I thought this season was pretty awesome up until now. It's a joke now.
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Old 28-08-2011, 14:38
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Porsche was pretty set in the game with either Jordan or Rachel being evicted later in the week.

Why would she open the Pandora's Box when it would almost certainly benefit the vets and not her alliance?
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Old 28-08-2011, 15:17
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Next week, after the HOH competition (which will be a quiz about Brendon and Jeff), Pandora's Box will contain a twist where the HOH gets to bring any juror of their choice back into the game and have them replace a remaining player of their choice.
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Old 28-08-2011, 15:22
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Porsche was pretty set in the game with either Jordan or Rachel being evicted later in the week.

Why would she open the Pandora's Box when it would almost certainly benefit the vets and not her alliance?
Because production demanded she did it, Porsche said she didn't want to open Pandora's box but Grodbeast made her.

The sad thing is if Porsche did resist opening Pandora's box they probably would have fired up the fortune telling machine and saved Jorchel that way.

Someone needs to sack Grodner, we're entering corruption levels of rigging now, gameshows in the fifties were condemned for doing the same thing.
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Old 28-08-2011, 15:23
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Its more the timing as well that is so annoying. We've had twists designed to benefit certain players before (Coup de tat, America's Player). But to do it at F6 is far too late into the game and close to the finish line. There's no way there should be a 'twist' like this at this stage.
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Old 28-08-2011, 15:29
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Also, hope Dani Donato speaks up once she watches back the tapes and realises how the 'twists' have basically been designed to screw over her whole team. I hope she says something on finale night. The Grodner beast needs to be told!
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