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The John and Edward Appreciation Thread (Part 16)
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Jerrica09
31-08-2011
I knew John and Edward were safe as soon as I heard about that twist I love that Darryn only got about 5 minutes to gloat too

Very timely that J&E were saved because I think they were in real danger of nomination from the group otherwise. It also gives people time to get past tomorrows show! Though I felt the worst part of that was Kerry slipping over - and that was Bobbys fault. I hope they show that.
Disnae
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by -Jade":
“Ugh, don't I'm worried about that too. Hopefully plenty of other things happened today so there isn't time to drag it out. As long as it's shown fairly - with them cleaning everything after and being complimented on it - I don't mind.”

I think a lot of tomorrow's highlights will be taken up with theeviction and twist and the aftermath, so hopefully the edit won't be totally taken up with it.
-Jade"
31-08-2011
Who does everyone want to go? I'm hoping for Darryn, but wouldn't mind Lucien going either. I think both could nominate the boys next time - Lucien's made it clear he's never going for Darryn again
I think Bobby's going to go, which is a shame. The twins seem to really like him, especially John. I think they'd miss him the most out of all 4 up.
Disnae
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by Jerrica09:
“I knew John and Edward were safe as soon as I heard about that twist I love that Darryn only got about 5 minutes to gloat too

Very timely that J&E were saved because I think they were in real danger of nomination from the group otherwise. It also gives people time to get past tomorrows show! Though I felt the worst part of that was Kerry slipping over - and that was Bobbys fault. I hope they show that.”

yeah, Darryn got 5 mins of relief then he was nommed again, haha!

Kerry slipping was a disaster and Thank Goodness it wasn't their fault. Its typical of the main forum that they weren't bothered about Bobby doing that and Kerry nearly being hurt and were all focussed on the twins overturning the mattresses . They just hate the twins and are blinkered to everything else!
Disnae
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by -Jade":
“Who does everyone want to go? I'm hoping for Darryn, but wouldn't mind Lucien going either. I think both could nominate the boys next time - Lucien's made it clear he's never going for Darryn again
I think Bobby's going to go, which is a shame. The twins seem to really like him, especially John. I think they'd miss him the most out of all 4 up.”

I want Lucien to go to save us from another tedious fauxmance .
Eurostar
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by -Jade":
“Who does everyone want to go? I'm hoping for Darryn, but wouldn't mind Lucien going either. I think both could nominate the boys next time - Lucien's made it clear he's never going for Darryn again
I think Bobby's going to go, which is a shame. The twins seem to really like him, especially John. I think they'd miss him the most out of all 4 up.”

I wouldn't mind seeing Lucien going : I've a sneaking suspicion the guy is a fake and has a massive game plan going on.
-Jade"
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by Disnae:
“yeah, Darryn got 5 mins of relief then he was nommed again, haha!

Kerry slipping was a disaster and Thank Goodness it wasn't their fault. Its typical of the main forum that they weren't bothered about Bobby doing that and Kerry nearly being hurt and were all focussed on the twins overturning the mattresses . They just hate the twins and are blinkered to everything else!”

I hope that's made clear if they show Kerry slipping though. It could easily be made to look like it was them and they're just blaming Bobby. They've been fair so far, I hope they keep it up.

Originally Posted by Disnae:
“I want Lucien to go to save us from another tedious fauxmance .”

Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“I wouldn't mind seeing Lucien going : I've a sneaking suspicion the guy is a fake and has a massive game plan going on.”

I don't buy his act for one minute. Let's face it, a guy as good-looking as him would never be interested in the trainwreck that is Kerry Katona unless they had the magazine deals in mind. I'd be very surprised if he was evicted though.
I might throw a couple of votes Bobby's way, just because he's the only one I trust 100% not to nominate the twins other than Tara, who's completely safe.


Aw, and I was gutted that Jedman didn't make tonight's HLs! It showed all 4 boys in a good light, even Lucien, but I guess they're not interested in him unless it's girl-related. Or laughing at stories of near-death Nothing more awkward than laughing at inappropriate moments.
howard_s
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by -Jade":
“I hope that's made clear if they show Kerry slipping though. It could easily be made to look like it was them and they're just blaming Bobby. They've been fair so far, I hope they keep it up.





I don't buy his act for one minute. Let's face it, a guy as good-looking as him would never be interested in the trainwreck that is Kerry Katona unless they had the magazine deals in mind. I'd be very surprised if he was evicted though.
I might throw a couple of votes Bobby's way, just because he's the only one I trust 100% not to nominate the twins other than Tara, who's completely safe.


Aw, and I was gutted that Jedman didn't make tonight's HLs! It showed all 4 boys in a good light, even Lucien, but I guess they're not interested in him unless it's girl-related. Or laughing at stories of near-death Nothing more awkward than laughing at inappropriate moments.”


Not sure it matters if J&E are nominated, as they would get enough votes to get through to the final.
Strictly_Irish
31-08-2011
The most important thing is that the twin were not one of the early exits.
howard_s
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“The most important thing is that the twin were not one of the early exits. ”

Looks like they are safe until into next week. Who knows after that.
Strictly_Irish
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by howard_s:
“Looks like they are safe until into next week. Who knows after that.”

Yep. I'd say they are fine until the final.
-Jade"
31-08-2011
Originally Posted by howard_s:
“Not sure it matters if J&E are nominated, as they would get enough votes to get through to the final.”

I'd say it depends on how many people are up. In a head to head, they could be in trouble - not only do a lot of people dislike them, but it'd be a good chance for Amy and Kerry fans to get rid of a favourite.
-Jade"
01-09-2011
Edward's reaction to someone in the crowd shouting "Jedward!" when Brian's talking to the house is the cutest thing.
howard_s
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by -Jade":
“I'd say it depends on how many people are up. In a head to head, they could be in trouble - not only do a lot of people dislike them, but it'd be a good chance for Amy and Kerry fans to get rid of a favourite.”

Good points. It reminds me of X factor. Its a pity there isn't a sing-off
Jerrica09
01-09-2011
I was irritated by Amy telling John and Edward to be quiet and 'shush' when they thanked Pamela. Paddy was at least as loud when he was picked next and she didn't say a word to him.
silverhand
01-09-2011
Hi guys, been on the road for a while, so only getting to see snippets and play catch-up with CBB and pop into DS on rare occasions.

Just wanted to say that, having very much wanted J&E go in there and show off their more natural side, I've been rather converted to the approach they have taken so far. Frankly, once the initial novelty had worn off no one would have paid the slightest bit of notice of them if they had acted in a low-key fashion, particularly since we are only getting HLs this year. As it is, they are more or less running this show and the show is 100 times better for it.

Bit apprehensive about tomorrow's edit, but it looks like the twins will be safe for long enough to recover people's favour if they do come across in a poor light. The house trashing was odd. It was honestly the most controlled mayhem I've ever seen. Somehow, I think if the twins had really had some sort of freak out, something more than the moving of some mattresses and dumping chairs (cushions carefully removed!) into the pool would have ensued. I smell scripting, but who knows?

Also, so pleased that their kindness to Pamela was rewarded this evening. She wasn't many people's cup of tea, but she wasn't malicious or nasty either. Mainly she just seemed sad and a bit out of her depth, and most HMs gave her an unduly hard time. Frankly, if people are kind-hearted, fair-minded and don't b*tch and whine or backstab, who honestly cares if they also happen to be messy or hyper some of the time?
silverhand
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by Jerrica09:
“I was irritated by Amy telling John and Edward to be quiet and 'shush' when they thanked Pamela. Paddy was at least as loud when he was picked next and she didn't say a word to him.”

She's been coming across as increasingly patronising and dismissive of them. I suspect she knows she can get away with it, because they won't react negatively while others will.
cupofteatime
01-09-2011
I've only watched a couple of BBBOTS becasue it's so awful, but I did watch tonight as it had Pamela on - she couldn't stop gushing about the boys her little sparklers.

Bit gutted Jedman didn't make the edit tonight, that was a great piece of genuine fun with everyone.

Let's start petition - ban the hairdriers till CBB ends
silverhand
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by cupofteatime:
“Let's start petition - ban the hairdriers till CBB ends ”

This ^ Flat hair ftw!
quasimoron
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by silverhand:
“She's been coming across as increasingly patronising and dismissive of them. I suspect she knows she can get away with it, because they won't react negatively while others will.”

Amy is aligned with Daryn, who regularly screams at them to shut up. Kerry is allied there also. I have gone right off kerry, The way she screams at the twins is out of order.

I have heard Amy hiss this at them, several times, she is a nasty piece of work.IMo and full of herself.Its so disrespectful.

The twins are just trying to entertain the viewers, they have no intention of causing damage.They are just as the professionals they are, earning their fee.

They do need to learn how to be assertive and not tolerate disrespect.I think I read somewhere, that John muttered in the bedroom, I am not shutting up and Amy told daryn "he said he wont shut up".WTF
Because the twins come across as non assertive on TV, they also get more hate from the forum bullies. They have to toughen up and stick up for themselves, starting by telling fake thicko Amy, to shut uuup.
Eurostar
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by silverhand:
“Hi guys, been on the road for a while, so only getting to see snippets and play catch-up with CBB and pop into DS on rare occasions.

Just wanted to say that, having very much wanted J&E go in there and show off their more natural side, I've been rather converted to the approach they have taken so far. Frankly, once the initial novelty had worn off no one would have paid the slightest bit of notice of them if they had acted in a low-key fashion, particularly since we are only getting HLs this year. As it is, they are more or less running this show and the show is 100 times better for it.

Bit apprehensive about tomorrow's edit, but it looks like the twins will be safe for long enough to recover people's favour if they do come across in a poor light. The house trashing was odd. It was honestly the most controlled mayhem I've ever seen. Somehow, I think if the twins had really had some sort of freak out, something more than the moving of some mattresses and dumping chairs (cushions carefully removed!) into the pool would have ensued. I smell scripting, but who knows?

Also, so pleased that their kindness to Pamela was rewarded this evening. She wasn't many people's cup of tea, but she wasn't malicious or nasty either. Mainly she just seemed sad and a bit out of her depth, and most HMs gave her an unduly hard time. Frankly, if people are kind-hearted, fair-minded and don't b*tch and whine or backstab, who honestly cares if they also happen to be messy or hyper some of the time?”

I think the "trashing" of the house was just boredom silverhand. The twins are hyperactive and don't like sitting around, and need to be doing things to keep themselves occupied.

I'm not convinced this stuff is going down badly with the viewers either. I'm sure many of them realise it is an entertainment show and not a fly on the wall documentary about human behaviour.
-Jade"
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by Jerrica09:
“I was irritated by Amy telling John and Edward to be quiet and 'shush' when they thanked Pamela. Paddy was at least as loud when he was picked next and she didn't say a word to him.”

I'm seeing Amy's mask slip more and more. She seemed a bit taken aback that there weren't a load of people shouting for Pamela to keep her in, and I'm sure she frowned a bit during the eviction result when someone chanted "I love you Jedward!" though in fairness she may have just been trying to work out what was said. She seems to think she can say what she wants to the twins as long as she follows it with "Love you though honey!"
I don't think she likes the twins one bit, whereas you can see Bobby genuinely does. Really want him to stay.

Originally Posted by silverhand:
“Also, so pleased that their kindness to Pamela was rewarded this evening. She wasn't many people's cup of tea, but she wasn't malicious or nasty either. Mainly she just seemed sad and a bit out of her depth, and most HMs gave her an unduly hard time. Frankly, if people are kind-hearted, fair-minded and don't b*tch and whine or backstab, who honestly cares if they also happen to be messy or hyper some of the time?”

Exactly. People seem so surprised that they're not hated in the house, but I'd have thought the last thing of any real significance in there is a messy room, considering all the bitching that seems to be going on.

Originally Posted by cupofteatime:
“Let's start petition - ban the hairdriers till CBB ends ”

Just ban them forever I only like the quiff if it's not as perfect - John and Amy's wedding being a good example.
silverhand
01-09-2011
Just read on the live twitter that Amy apparently asked John to cuddle her tonight and he 'passed up the opportunity'. Interesting. Maybe there was nothing much to it, but I'd be intrigued to see the footage of that exchange if and when it surfaces.

Yes, it could be boredom, Eurostar. But they are generally good at making their own, less destructive, entertainment, which is why I thought it was odd. There's a typically hyperbolic headline in the Star tomorrow about it. They are definitely earning their money's worth from Mr Desmond.
River_Tam
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by cupofteatime:
“I've only watched a couple of BBBOTS becasue it's so awful, but I did watch tonight as it had Pamela on - she couldn't stop gushing about the boys her little sparklers.

Bit gutted Jedman didn't make the edit tonight, that was a great piece of genuine fun with everyone.

Let's start petition - ban the hairdriers till CBB ends ”

you've almost convinced me to watch that awful show, I am a sucker for people saying nice things about them

I've kinda assumed that half the people nominated are going, is it only one of them?

they stand up for themselves when it really matters ( paddy climbing on John) but they just can't be bothered with stupid little fights.

I've tried to like Amy but she just seems so fake, her personality seems to amount to some curlers and a series of contrived catchphrases. She has decided to align herself with the pap who can make or break her when she gets out. or maybe them using her eyeliner was some make up too far.

But she's a girl who is trying to work out how much she can earn from magazine deals when she gets out. She wants to be the next Jordan/Kerry Katona, famous for being famous, reality tv star brand and you need some paps on side to make that happen for you.
-Jade"
01-09-2011
Originally Posted by silverhand:
“Just read on the live twitter that Amy apparently asked John to cuddle her tonight and he 'passed up the opportunity'. Interesting. Maybe there was nothing much to it, but I'd be intrigued to see the footage of that exchange if and when it surfaces. ”

Very interesting. Guessing she heard the cheers.
I bet Edward's so smug right now He worked her out a couple of days in.
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