I want to see that exchange so much! I wonder if it was as "no way in hell" a refusal as the first time she asked Edward. Edward so had her sussed ages ago!

Just saw the thrashing vid, a few mattresses turned over, no mess to speak off.Remember that in BB11 and wiggate
If thats trashing a house, well
I hear Daryn saying they took tuna from his drawers too and Paddy acting up, because he was woken up.I cant see the twins taking stuff from drawers and if they did it would be shown.
I tell you, Pamela is gone and they are next for the bullies.
kerry Your 19 not 9.
Edward I think "as a come back" I,m ten"

Well then they're idiots. There was a clear improvement in their reaction from the crowd compared to when they went in, and even that wasn't too bad.
This is another reason why I want Bobby to stay - the twins might shrug off any unfair treatment, but I think he sees them as little brother figures and is quite protective of them.

Kerry just broke a bed by sitting on it. disrespecting furniture or accident?

The weight of her big gob maybe.

One thing CBB has very much confirmed for me is that Edward Grimes has most things sussed. For all that he plays the fool at times, that boy so clearly has a top-notch brain.

In fact, both J&E have come across very well in this regard on CBB. People have said to me that they are surprised how quick-witted and sharp 'Jedward' actually are - lots of pleasantly surprised comments on their comic timing too. It's nice that people are getting to see that side of them at last.

it is interesting that Bobby "I can't talk to any of these morons" is enjoying hanging out with the impossible to have a conversation with ASBO Twins and has actually told a few other housemates to back off and leave them alone.

Yup, far more to what they're doing all day long than wreaking havoc and making a mess, but we see nothing. It's getting more and more frustrating tbh. I watched Pamela's interview on BBBOTS and it really brought home how little of what goes on in the house actually features on the HLs. Apart from the fact she'd been ill, so many things she mentioned - dynamics, conversations, behaviour patterns - were news to me. She evidently adored John and Edward, yet how often were we shown them talking to her?

I badly want to take Bobby's friendship with the twins at face value. He seems to have assumed a sort of older brother role with them. I just can't quite work the guy out though, he comes across as quite unpredictable and confusing, but (sweatgate aside) maybe that's actually a sane person's natural response to being trapped in that looney bin. I'd like him to stay in. Seeing both evictees so far turn out to have liked the twins, I'd rather limit the number of allies of theirs that leave the house from now on.

I think I'm finding it easy to take at face value because it seemed to happen naturally. He didn't make a beeline for them in the same way that Amy did - in fact, from what HMs have said he barely spoke to anyone the first couple of days, which leads me to think he was observing and working out the type of people he actually wanted to interact with. Working out who'll probably be popular and sticking with them only takes a few minutes, and Amy seemed to do that, which is why I always doubted her friendship with the twins. Over the past few days it seemed to disintegrate a bit (though this is only based on HLs and Twitter updates), yet now she's heard the cheers she wants cuddles with them again. With Bobby, on the other hand, it's remained pretty much constant - he's been looking out for them since coleslaw-gate day.

I can't vote, but please vote to save Bobby! I'd really hate to see him go.

Jedexaggeration much?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...RASH-BB-HOUSE/

I absolutely loved that twist and I'm happy for Pamela she got her revenge, even though I wish she had saved Bobby and nominated Kerry instead.

I hope some of the housemates learned a valuable lesson from yesterday .

I dont think rejecting the hug was anything to do with disliking Amy. think that kind of thing makes him uncomfortable and he would of found it awkward because he knows what their fans are like and they might get jealous, his brother was watching and maybe didnt want to leave him out and also because he is probably nervous.

I honestly dont think Amy is playing at anything. I know people who have met her and everyone has said she is lovely but a bit stupid, I really dont think John and Edward have anything agaisnt her, John especially.

Three mattresses and chairs in pool sans cushions.how did they clean up the mess so fast, its a miracle.Taking the eye pencil was naughty and they are going to take a lot of hate after tonight.

I Loved that twist yesterday! Talk about revenge! I was sorry Pamela went instead of Darryn, but then her having to choose the others was terrific! Poor old Darryn couldn't even gloat!

The only thing is though, I don't think she liked kerry and Amy, but felt pressured by the studio audience? The only one she was sure on was Paddy (and obviously the boys- great that she called them John and Edward too)

Another thing I noticed is they seem to really have a lot of fun with Lucien and Bobby...the four of them are always messing around and fighting etc. But I think Lucien feels stuck in the middle. He enjoys hanging out with them, but also gets along with Darryn, and Kerry etc, who act like parents. So I think he's finding things difficult in that sense.

I actually think the twins could win this. What the hell have Kerry and Amy actually done? And Paddy being a gypsy may work against him. I know lots of people hate John and Edward, but they still have SOO many fans, my mum included!

John was fine about having a cuddle with her the other day, and fake marrying her. I doubt they dislike Amy, buy she's been blowing hot and cold with them telling them to shush etc and clearly allied herself into Darryn's gang.

The "rampage" that was cleaned up in under half an hour! hilarious. taking the cushions off chairs! their idea of punk rock and roll is a bit tame really bless 'em.

The self confessed cleaning freak that was Pamela puts J & E first on her list of highlights of living in the house she describes them as magical:

EXCLUSIVE! Pamela Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlAup...e_gdata_player

I don't think they dislike her, but I don't think they trust her. Edward seemed wary from a couple of days in, and the constant belittling of them seems to have got to John now too. She treats them as pets rather than people - snapping at them when they're not behaving as she wants, then wanting cuddles and patronising them. Compare that to Bobby or Tara, or even Lucien, who treat them like actual people (the other three treat them as 'the kids' and don't show them much respect) and it's clear why John in particular seems to have gone off her. Edward was never really a fan


Lucien seems to be joining in more recently which is nice - I'd like him much more if he just acted like a young lad with the others instead of hunting for a fauxmance half the time - and Bobby seems to have been fully let into the Jedward circle, in the same way that only Stacey was on X Factor. I still wouldn't be too bothered if Lucien left though, as he's unpredictable because he sits on the fence, and so might nominate them if he stays. Darryn is definitely my first choice to leave though.
I've given up all hope with the twins winning, tbh, but if they make the final I'll still be voting like crazy just in case. The slightest chance they have is I could imagine Amy and Kerry splitting votes, as a lot of people who seem to like one also like the other.

The producers obviously told her to say that

LMAO - oh yeah, how stupid of me not to realise that!

I agree that Edward's been wary of Amy for ages, John seems to have come to the same conclusion as him now. She patronises them.

Wish Lucien would stop being so scared of what Darryn thinks, he really is an oppressive presence in the house isn't he? Lucien's impression of him in the diary room revelaed what he really thinks about that!

Just been catching up on everything - I was sad that Pamela went at first but imagine if it had been Darryn, I doubt he would have saved the twins from eviction.

Of course - the hm's were TOLD not to nominate the twins and I see that the latest shopping task was a fix also. LMFAO!!! I mean come on, heaven forbid that anyone should actually LIKE and get on with the twins, people who write about them in forums know them so much better than people who've lived with them for 2 weeks

At least if they get a bad edit tonight it won't impact on this week's noms, I doubt there'll be more evictions until the middle of next week maybe? by then there'll no doubt be more controversy anyway.

I do hope Darryn goes on Fri but I'm afraid it might well be Bobby. I think everyone would lighten up if Darryn went, he really is a domineering man. Really Bobby's the only one who would stand up to him but he seems to be just enjoying himself in the twins' company for the moment and may be afraid of courting controversy seeing as he is up for eviction.

Kerry and Amy are desperate to win for the sake of their careers. Lucien wants it also. I don't think Paddy and Tara are so bothered, I think Darryn naturally wants to do well as he seems very competitive. I don't think the twins are bothered about winning tbh. They don't really have anything to gain as they would just go back and resume their career. In a way that does put them at an advantage as I don't think they are too bothered if anyone dislikes them in the house but it's nice to see them not getting themselves involved in the scheming and game playing.

the twins are in charge of the shopping will they be naughty or nice?

I hope they'll remember the treats of the people they like and "forget" for the people they don't really! hahahah

I'm torn with what I want them to do. In a way, I want them to get their revenge and just buy a load of random stuff, but at the same time I want them to prove certain people (HMs and FMs) wrong. Plus they'd be a definite nominations target if they messed up on purpose.

knowing how fussy they are about their food, I'm expecting them to try their best to be sensible tbh.

I hope that at the very least they're generous with the cigarettes, seeing as it's always a sensitive issue in there and only them and Amy don't smoke.