Of the ones up for eviction I would want either Darryn or Lucien, one because his influence is being felt by all the HM, all are treading on eggshells around him. Lucien, although like many, has not really contributed much, but removing him might spice up the dynamics, as at present he seems to be in the middle of bitching and fauxromance edits only, plus the odd couple of "boys play" with Bobby & J&E. it would be interesting to see how the girls react.
Re: last night, BBBOTS to hear Pamela say, ( as mentioned before) how much she was in with the group, her illness etc all things that get edited so we see a very edited, often one sided view of a person's character and interaction - same thing thats happened to J&E, they have been made to look total idiots at times, whereas infact they are actually being entertaining, creative and engaging with others, which for the most part you don't see, unless it's to be yelled at.

I see the haters are showing off their supreme intellects and razor sharp wits on the MF again

I am so tempted to point out the irony of these semi-literates calling anyone else a moron, sigh...

Re: creative garden vid = amazing ! but wth, wouldn't you know someone would complain about wastage again ......give it a rest HM !!

Edward to John " so silky smooth ok" and the little pat on the chin.
How many would be afraid to do that knowing other people and cameras are watching? That's what l love and find so fascinating about them, they do not care how others interpret their behaviour. It's just so mesmerizing watching their preening and interaction with each other.

As people mentioned before, Edward is very shrewed when it comes to summing up people, it's almost instantaneous. When he meets you for the first time, he locks eyes with yours and seems to bore deep into your soul, and you have a feeling that he's read your character, even before speaking to you. It's uncanny, and yet, somehow reassuring.

He really does, it is one of the most amazing things ever, it's like having your soul read, so intense!

Where is the highlighted bit from? Sorry I feel like I'm always asking

I bought heat and OK! today, I always feel embarassed when I buy those mags. The heat article was rubbish, they got them mixed up, attrubuted quotes to the wrong one. If they're getting a psychologist to analyse them shouldn't she work on telling them apart first?

And I saw the Star front page at the train station Like the show is in trouble because John and Edward turned over a few mattresses then tidied up again. Big Brother - spiritual home for the hystericals. Maybe this is my karma for helping to torture the Josie Gibson fans from last years BB.

ok Kerry slipping was kinda their fault....oops....

Oh dear. Pretty bad for the twins, worse than I thought. To be honest I can see how that kind of behaviour would drive you insane if you couldn't get away from it. But did they show Bobby throwing the washing up liquid too?

Is it wrong to say the boys look absolutely beautiful tonight?

Loved Edward when Pamela went in for a hug "Back away, Pamela!"

Woah! 'One Twin On Their Own And Having A Normal Conversation With Other Housemates' shocker.

Punctuated with hiccups

aw so much pure Edward tonight!
the hiccup song!
defending John being the "aggressive one" after the thumped the heck out of each other in the diary room!
I've missed hearing him talk properly! aw <3

How's the show been for the boys? Fell asleep by accident and just woke up now Worth watching on YouTube when it comes up in a couple of hours, or was it just all about how terrible and disrespectful they are?

I enjoyed it ... they didn't annoy as much as I thought they would (well, it didn't annoy me, anyway, lol) and they spent hours cleaning up all their mess afterwards, which they showed too.

Plus they showed Edward talking to Lucien Tara and Bobby in the garden when John was asleep, and they both had flat hair for most of it.

The rest of it was 'blah'

Ah ok, thanks. At least now I can skip Kerry and Lucien pretending to be remotely interested in each other and Amy pretending to be thick.

I loved them being "rebels" removing cushions, being careful of carpets. worst vandals ever! LOL

BBBOTS is surprisingly pro-J&E tonight! Countless opportunities to slag them off but no-one seems to be biting! The audience all saying they're entertaining and at least doing something. Even Dane Bowers, Lembit Opik, Pete Bennett are being quite nice about them.

Actually the usual suspects on the MF are struggling with their JEDWARD MUST GO!!!!!!NOW!!!! threads noone really seems that bothered

HAHA crossed posts great minds and all that

Yeah I was expecting them to get crucified tonight- on the forum and the show.

Could it be the case that people are happier with John and Edward when they act badly and conform to their expectations? Odd!

yeah - bit weird isn't it?!

I was kind of fearful before tonight's show, ( had to laugh that they told BB they were going to be rebellious, like you do ) but Edward telling John to be careful of the carpets, (like RT mentioned) their apologies to everyone, being aware they'd stepped too far in the case of some HM's I think did win the others over; their stupendious cleaning effort...put everyone else's to shame. Loved Edward's hiccup song, ( how can you stay annoyed with them after seeing that) ....they are such complex boys. Personally I think they redeemed themselves, although I'm sure the haters would not agree.
How loveley to actually see Edward just sitting chatting to the others.....it is what he likes to do, have a good old chinwag - assumed it has happened before, but never made the HL show, but proof again that certain HM don't hold any no grudges by their behaviour this day.

Jerrica09 ...it is right at the beginning of the creative garden vid

You know I think the explanation is simplier - there are actually not that many haters just quite a small core group and tonight the neutrals and people who have been won over had other things to discuss so just ignored them, I have never seen negative Jedward threads disappear off the 1st page as quickly before

I actually thought it was a pretty good show for the twins overall. We saw their anarchic side but they also spent three hours cleaning up the place.

I'm liking Kerry less and less the more I see of her : she seems to be desperate to win and I don't think she is a 'reformed character' at all, more like a big fake.

yeah going off to the diary room to tell BB they were going to be rebels and "trash" the place and BB was all "off you go then, have a nice time" basically by not going "don't you bloody dare!"
hahahahaha

I was a bit worried (and a bit annoyed) at the beginning of the show. They dont have bad intentions, and I dont think they are selfish and set out to annoy people, but I think they can be a bit thoughtless at times, but they realise they had done wrong and made up for it, 3 hours cleaning after 30 mins making a mess more than makes up for it I think!

Was nice seeing Edward at the end

Just catching up on tonight's show. Some rocky moments, but, gosh, that worked out better than I could have hoped. *wipes brow* It's quite clear that C5 know that John and Edward make good tv and are pulling in the viewers and, accordingly, aren't editing them into one-dimensional hate figures.

I found the scene where Edward was chatting away to Tara, Bobby and Lucien quite touching actually. He came across as shy, quite lovely, and even vulnerable. I wish they'd show more of both J&E in these sorts of moments, because they clearly do interact with the other HMs as individuals.

Tara's comment that none of them "would have survived in this house" without the twins was interesting. I'd have liked to hear her to elaborate more on her precise reasons for saying that.