Originally Posted by Timothy Bryce:
“What's PB.”
“What's PB.”
Pandora's Box; Porsche opening it set the duos twist going again.
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Originally Posted by Yobaba**:
“Not really, Brigade were annoying because they controlled the whole game and basically had no opposition, at least Kalia-Porsche-Shelly fought for where they are so I can enjoy their reign in the house especially because Kalia-Porsche at least have been the underdogs all season. I just think it will be grossly unfair if they get screwed by this stupid PB twist.”
“Not really, Brigade were annoying because they controlled the whole game and basically had no opposition, at least Kalia-Porsche-Shelly fought for where they are so I can enjoy their reign in the house especially because Kalia-Porsche at least have been the underdogs all season. I just think it will be grossly unfair if they get screwed by this stupid PB twist.”
I agree, this is one of the few BB where I think the power shift between both sides of the house were "balanced" and the strategy on both sides have been interesting.
Regardless of ratings and drama I would want Kalia and Porsche to get into the final 2 as:
a) All of their HoH's involved a twist of some sort.
b) They proved everyone wrong by being able to win vital competitions.
c) They were originally on the Vets side until someone on the vets did something stupid... Jeff attacking Kalia and not trying to do damage control. Jordan saying "You two come here (to Shelly and Adam)" excluding Porsche out of the mini celebration party when Brendon came back.
I would want Kalia to win over Porsche but I if Jordan got to the final 2 I would imagine everyone voting for her to win again even though she hasn't done anything AGAIN.
Originally Posted by k0213818:
“How much longer do we expect it be before the feeds come back on?”
“How much longer do we expect it be before the feeds come back on?”
It depends on what the competition is - minutes or hours its anyone's guess
Originally Posted by Ryan_InsideBB:
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I liked Jordan in BB11 because she was the underdog, but as soon as the duos returned I knew she would be in Jeff's shadow the whole time so the thought of her winning again with only 1 HOH which was thrown to her would make the whole season a bit of a waste.”
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I liked Jordan in BB11 because she was the underdog, but as soon as the duos returned I knew she would be in Jeff's shadow the whole time so the thought of her winning again with only 1 HOH which was thrown to her would make the whole season a bit of a waste.”
If anything, Jordan has been far more proactive this season in terms of playing the game. She's no mastermind and no key player, but this time around, she's definitely been thinking and talking strategy a lot more.
Plus, she won last time with a solitary HoH win if you don't count thrown competitions. Jeff threw her HoH, she openly admitted to copying Michele in her Veto win, and Natalie threw Part 2 of the final HoH. (She did of course beat Kevin in Part 3!)
Originally Posted by Ryan_InsideBB:
“I also rooted for Rachel/Brendon as the underdogs last season and Rachel has once again proved herself to be a competitor so it wouldn't bother me if Rachel stayed in over Shelly/Adam, even if Rachel won some vetos which were thrown her way according to EvelDick. Just let's have a good competitor who deserves the money win!”
“I also rooted for Rachel/Brendon as the underdogs last season and Rachel has once again proved herself to be a competitor so it wouldn't bother me if Rachel stayed in over Shelly/Adam, even if Rachel won some vetos which were thrown her way according to EvelDick. Just let's have a good competitor who deserves the money win!”
Rachel has never won the veto in either of her seasons. (Except the one she won with Brendon in Week 1 of this season)
Feeds went down just over an hour ago. Veto's are usually around 1.5-2 hours, but have topped 3 hours before, so who knows.
It really depends on what the competition is. Something like the face challenge or otev could take a long time in theory!
It really depends on what the competition is. Something like the face challenge or otev could take a long time in theory!
I don't think Kalia deserves final two after the Lawon eviction and Adam has spent the entire summer flipping to whoever has the power which has made him one of the most irritating contestants ever. Whatever happens - I hope they are out soon.
Porsche I think has played quite a good game - lying low then competing fiercely towards the end. Rachel was like steel in the beginning, and after a rocky middle is now hopefully back and ready to fight. Jordan has just been Jordan. Shelly has played a very good game, though she's irritating.
Porsche I think has played quite a good game - lying low then competing fiercely towards the end. Rachel was like steel in the beginning, and after a rocky middle is now hopefully back and ready to fight. Jordan has just been Jordan. Shelly has played a very good game, though she's irritating.
Jordan has pretty much run the house this year. I'm not sure she gets the credit because of her ditzy act. I still hope she doesnt win on principal though.
Ideal F2 at this stage is probably Porsche - Kalia. Wouldn't mind if Shelly got there too edging out Kalia because she's been amazing.
Rachel is kind of amazing for her ability to bounce back so we'll see how she gets on if she can win the veto. She wouldn't be a bad winner imo though she should rightly go this week as she deserves.
If Blob wins it would be a complete disaster!
Ideal F2 at this stage is probably Porsche - Kalia. Wouldn't mind if Shelly got there too edging out Kalia because she's been amazing.
Rachel is kind of amazing for her ability to bounce back so we'll see how she gets on if she can win the veto. She wouldn't be a bad winner imo though she should rightly go this week as she deserves.
If Blob wins it would be a complete disaster!
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“If anything, Jordan has been far more proactive this season in terms of playing the game. She's no mastermind and no key player, but this time around, she's definitely been thinking and talking strategy a lot more.”
“If anything, Jordan has been far more proactive this season in terms of playing the game. She's no mastermind and no key player, but this time around, she's definitely been thinking and talking strategy a lot more.”
Oh yeah I agree with you there, she understands the game better this time around, but she still isn't doing anything with it. And as EvelDick also pointed out, most of the strategy talk was just relayed from Jeff but she has definitely been clued in more this season, probably from being with Jeff or watching the show back? Who knows...
Originally Posted by Yobaba**:
“Jordan has pretty much run the house this year. I'm not sure she gets the credit because of her ditzy act. I still hope she doesnt win on principal though.
Ideal F2 at this stage is probably Porsche - Kalia. Wouldn't mind if Shelly got there too edging out Kalia because she's been amazing.
Rachel is kind of amazing for her ability to bounce back so we'll see how she gets on if she can win the veto. She wouldn't be a bad winner imo though she should rightly go this week as she deserves.
If Blob wins it would be a complete disaster!”
“Jordan has pretty much run the house this year. I'm not sure she gets the credit because of her ditzy act. I still hope she doesnt win on principal though.
Ideal F2 at this stage is probably Porsche - Kalia. Wouldn't mind if Shelly got there too edging out Kalia because she's been amazing.
Rachel is kind of amazing for her ability to bounce back so we'll see how she gets on if she can win the veto. She wouldn't be a bad winner imo though she should rightly go this week as she deserves.
If Blob wins it would be a complete disaster!”
Really? I haven't seen it myself lol Can someone remind me of the points I've missed?
Originally Posted by Ryan_InsideBB:
“... the underdogs can fight their way to the top like Dani/Kalia/Porsche have, then they deserve to be there more...”
“... the underdogs can fight their way to the top like Dani/Kalia/Porsche have, then they deserve to be there more...”
You and others have curious notions as to what constitutes an underdog. The true underdog walks into the House on day 1 with a target on their back, as the Veterans did this Season. As Brendon did in Season 12, or Dan after a few days of Season 10 and as Dr Will and Janelle did in Season 7. A true underdog is never safe. Not even for a week. If they win HoH, they have to plan their nominations alongside their own safety the following week.
This Season Kalia and Porsche have never, at any time, been in danger, indeed Porsche had the absolute safety of a Golden Key. The same can't be said for Rachel, who has been saved from certain eviction twice. Once by Brendon sacrificing himself for her and again by Shelly's subversion of Kalia's HoH.
If you want to root for a genuine underdog, that can only mean Rachel.
Originally Posted by mindset:
“You and others have curious notions as to what constitutes an underdog. The true underdog walks into the House on day 1 with a target on their back, as the Veterans did this Season. As Brendon did in Season 12, or Dan after a few days of Season 10 and as Dr Will and Janelle did in Season 7. A true underdog is never safe. Not even for a week. If they win HoH, they have to plan their nominations alongside their own safety the following week.
This Season Kalia and Porsche have never, at any time, been in danger, indeed Porsche had the absolute safety of a Golden Key. The same can't be said for Rachel, who has been saved from certain eviction twice. Once by Brendon sacrificing himself for her and again by Shelly's subversion of Kalia's HoH.
If you want to root for a genuine underdog, that can only mean Rachel.”
“You and others have curious notions as to what constitutes an underdog. The true underdog walks into the House on day 1 with a target on their back, as the Veterans did this Season. As Brendon did in Season 12, or Dan after a few days of Season 10 and as Dr Will and Janelle did in Season 7. A true underdog is never safe. Not even for a week. If they win HoH, they have to plan their nominations alongside their own safety the following week.
This Season Kalia and Porsche have never, at any time, been in danger, indeed Porsche had the absolute safety of a Golden Key. The same can't be said for Rachel, who has been saved from certain eviction twice. Once by Brendon sacrificing himself for her and again by Shelly's subversion of Kalia's HoH.
If you want to root for a genuine underdog, that can only mean Rachel.”
I do agree that Porsche has never been an underdog. But Daniele and Kalia definitely have been. They HAD to win them HoH's, or they'd go home, and they were outnumbered. That's an underdog in my book, and that's why I've backed them this season.
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Originally Posted by mindset:
“You and others have curious notions as to what constitutes an underdog. The true underdog walks into the House on day 1 with a target on their back, as the Veterans did this Season. As Brendon did in Season 12, or Dan after a few days of Season 10 and as Dr Will and Janelle did in Season 7. A true underdog is never safe. Not even for a week. If they win HoH, they have to plan their nominations alongside their own safety the following week.
This Season Kalia and Porsche have never, at any time, been in danger, indeed Porsche had the absolute safety of a Golden Key. The same can't be said for Rachel, who has been saved from certain eviction twice. Once by Brendon sacrificing himself for her and again by Shelly's subversion of Kalia's HoH.
If you want to root for a genuine underdog, that can only mean Rachel.”
“You and others have curious notions as to what constitutes an underdog. The true underdog walks into the House on day 1 with a target on their back, as the Veterans did this Season. As Brendon did in Season 12, or Dan after a few days of Season 10 and as Dr Will and Janelle did in Season 7. A true underdog is never safe. Not even for a week. If they win HoH, they have to plan their nominations alongside their own safety the following week.
This Season Kalia and Porsche have never, at any time, been in danger, indeed Porsche had the absolute safety of a Golden Key. The same can't be said for Rachel, who has been saved from certain eviction twice. Once by Brendon sacrificing himself for her and again by Shelly's subversion of Kalia's HoH.
If you want to root for a genuine underdog, that can only mean Rachel.”
Oh as single players, Kalia/Porsche were never targets apart from when Jeff told Kalia to her face she was, then he bottled it for good reason and decided to switch to Dani. In terms of alliances, I classed Dani as the underdog (as most of the vets were from the beginning due to their status in the house) as she had the veto record going into the house so that if they couldn't get her out, they would then go for her other alliance members. That's where my thinking was at.
Originally Posted by Ryan_InsideBB:
“ Really? I haven't seen it myself lol Can someone remind me of the points I've missed?”
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Really? I haven't seen it myself lol Can someone remind me of the points I've missed?”
She's not a mastermind exactly but she's pretty shrewd and has a good handle on what goes on in the house and how to get people on her side. She's improved a lot since BB11.
In a weird way I think people are even more scared of her than Jeff. Nobody wants to piss off the America's princess!
Originally Posted by Yobaba**:
“She's not a mastermind exactly but she's pretty shrewd and has a good handle on what goes on in the house and how to get people on her side. She's improved a lot since BB11.
In a weird way I think people are even more scared of her than Jeff. Nobody wants to piss off the America's princess!”
“She's not a mastermind exactly but she's pretty shrewd and has a good handle on what goes on in the house and how to get people on her side. She's improved a lot since BB11.
In a weird way I think people are even more scared of her than Jeff. Nobody wants to piss off the America's princess!”
I always thought Jeff was America's favourite which just rubbed off onto Jordan because they got together so at this moment in time, she is America's princess yeah haha
Originally Posted by Climbatize:
“I do agree that Porsche has never been an underdog. But Daniele and Kalia definitely have been. They HAD to win them HoH's, or they'd go home, and they were outnumbered. That's an underdog in my book, and that's why I've backed them this season.”
“I do agree that Porsche has never been an underdog. But Daniele and Kalia definitely have been. They HAD to win them HoH's, or they'd go home, and they were outnumbered. That's an underdog in my book, and that's why I've backed them this season.”
I didn't mention Dani, but yes, she made herself an underdog from week 3 onwards. Kalia on the other hand, has never, ever been in danger, because Dani was always a bigger target than her. Whether Dani liked it or not, she volunteered herself to be Kalia's human shield.
Originally Posted by Ryan_InsideBB:
“Oh yeah I agree with you there, she understands the game better this time around, but she still isn't doing anything with it. And as EvelDick also pointed out, most of the strategy talk was just relayed from Jeff but she has definitely been clued in more this season, probably from being with Jeff or watching the show back? Who knows...”
“Oh yeah I agree with you there, she understands the game better this time around, but she still isn't doing anything with it. And as EvelDick also pointed out, most of the strategy talk was just relayed from Jeff but she has definitely been clued in more this season, probably from being with Jeff or watching the show back? Who knows...”
Most nights I was fascinated with the J&J ritual of discussing the house. Jordan gave Jeff a lot of information she picked up from chatting to HGs or overheard while she sat staring vacantly. IMO Jeff had a better focus on game strategy but weaker observation. Both had blind spots, Jeff ignored any warnings about Adam and Jordan dismissed warnings from Shelly about her insecurity, she should not have been so distraught when Shelly flipped.
I am no fan of either but I admired the way they worked together and went over everything in detail every night.
Originally Posted by mindset:
“I didn't mention Dani, but yes, she made herself an underdog from week 3 onwards. Kalia on the other hand, has never, ever been in danger, because Dani was always a bigger target than her. Whether Dani liked it or not, she volunteered herself to be Kalia's human shield.”
“I didn't mention Dani, but yes, she made herself an underdog from week 3 onwards. Kalia on the other hand, has never, ever been in danger, because Dani was always a bigger target than her. Whether Dani liked it or not, she volunteered herself to be Kalia's human shield.”
Oh right, well yes, I kinda agree. Although if Dani had won veto, and she is very good at competitions, Kalia could still be in trouble.
I reckon a good F4 for live feed entertainment (if not for fairness) would be Shelly/Porsche/Dalia v. Rachel.
That must be the first veto Rachel has won on her own? She is better at HoH, but good timing, now I hope they vote Adam out but Jordan wants Shelly gone.
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