[quote=JJJ_finland;52494683]Um.... there are other ways of starting a family than becoming pregnant yourself

I agree with you, I have edited out most of your post as I really wanted to comment on the starting a family aspect.

As you correctly say there are many ways in which to start a family but unfortunately if they are thinking of going down the NHS route I don't think Chantelle would be eligible for IVF or egg donation, as it would be unlikely to be successful. Funding within the NHS for infertility is woafully inadequate and as a result only women who have a better than average chance of success are chosen. A colleage of mine who became anorexic at the age of 13 was told at the age of 25 that she would not be able to carry a child to full term because of the damage to her reproductive organs Of course I don't know Chantelles history maybe there is a chance but my friend was told that infertility rendered through an eating disorder, in 95% of cases is irreversable and that any medical intervention would be unlikely to result in a successful pregnancy.

Adoption is also an option but this is also very difficult in the UK particularly if they want a very young child. My 2nd cousin (32) and his wife (30) were unable to have children as she was involved in a very bad car accident at the age of 19 and had to have her womb removed. They married when she was 24 and started adoption procedings at the age of 26, after 4 years and hundreds of interviews and assessments in 2 weeks time we will all be delighted to welcome a little girl aged 2 into our family.

If in 3-4 years time if Chantelle and Alex are still happily together they may be accepted onto the programme but it is very very difficult to get through the selection process.

Of course if she is financially secure and can pay privately for treatment even knowing there is little chance of success then that would be her choice following discussion with her medical team. Surrogacy is also an option but it would have to be a private arrangement and could prove to be expensive.

I hope that if it what they both truly want then I hope that which ever route they choose it is successful for them.

I am sorry to have waffled on and particularly for attaching it to your post but I do think a lot of young girls think that infertility can be easily fixed with a visit to the hospital or adoption is almost like looking through a catalogue and selecting a baby of your choice, sadly this is not the case.

Christine x

Hi Kelly, it's pretty quiet here

This is really interesting, thanks Christine

I watched the documentary on TV the other night that followed various surrogates, was very interesting

I think Chantelle, even if she were perfectly fertile, would be mad to be thinking of bringing a child into the world on a whim (which is what I think it is, or another way of getting attention) - as I feel anybody is who doesn't think it through properly. Sadly I feel some celebs see them as the latest accessory , when a dog might be more appropriate . She may have the money to go through private means, as so many of them do.

Yeah, it has gone quick. but look at it now. Warm and sunny. *shakes fist at blue skies* "Where were you last week, eh?" Just caught up on the reports. Was a bit taken aback by Annette calling me a "glamorous surprise".

I'm otherwise completely out the loop, though. Is there anything important I've missed this week or has it just been idle chat...as usual.


Hi Ali.

I think the only bit of excitement was when John posted on the Loys Fb page and then JohnJamesClub tweeted the information in full, causing rather a furore, people caught between the 'should a private page be copied over to Twitter' (even though it was a re-type only of his remarks and from a member of that page) and the 'thank you for the information' brigade, with all sorts of discussion/arguments, etc. as you can imagine

No warm and sunny weather here today (well it's warmish), funny how Bristol and Bath can be so different, it's these here hills

Hi Kay, nope didn't bump into any threadlings.

Having said that - I've never met anyone from here so I could very well have walked past Joyce & didn't know!

Oh, yes. I did catch up on that little snippet earlier. The message that is, not the ensuing arguements.

Sometimes it's a blessing to be too busy!

It's been pretty quiet this week. More or less the same old, same old.

haha never a truer word said, and all that

Maybe you should contact Joyce and Cathy so you can arrange a meet somewhere. Lisa (crazychick) and peggy (peggysue) are also around there - and plenty of others, but those are the only ones I definitely know about.

Clever phone. It knows how to put a full stop at the end. Perhaps she could teach it how to do smilies.

We were talking on twitter about arranging a get-together in February, some time far from now where everybody can save up, plan childcare, etc., obviously to include anybody that wants to go from here or there We'll see what happens with that

WOuld have been nice to have a family-based get-together in the summer, picnic or something with kids included (easier for me) but that ship has sailed (summer that is )

theres trubel on twitter agen with the loys god thay nead 2 grow up xx

See squirrel has changed good she looks nice know are we calling her Lily

if you want too we could do that arrange for a seaside trip for us all to meet up then no childcare worries

good afternoon thread mates hope all is well with you all

Good afternoon everyone

Just having a quick lurk before I go to the cricket club.

CHEEKY - thanks for posting last year's web chat, really enjoyed reading it - although it makes me really now that they have fallen out of love, I think they both thought it would last forever at the time.

So Squirrel is the one who says John is still missing Josie and is not with new gf.

Squirrelgate is the one who says John is not missing Josie and is happy with new gf

And now there is squirrel2 or squirrelgate2 also??

And now squirrel has changed her name to Lily
So I think pretty soon there will be Lilygate and Lilygate2 also

Did I get all this right?

Originally Posted by JJJ_finland:
“So Squirrel is the one who says John is still missing Josie and is not with new gf.”

ooh - I like the sound of the first squirrel

It's something to think about, as everybody said will have to be next year with winter and Xmas etc. coming up

LMAO I have just roared at this and made Laura jump out of her chair

You need to read the conspiracy theorists on the General Threads (re. 9/11) you'd have a field day

Still chuckling lol but have to go now, Laura wants computer Talk soon xx

Thanks for that Cheeky - lovely memories there. It is a shame it all went so wrong


I have seen children in a playground behave better than them - unbelievable. Looks as though some muckers have joined in now as well


I think so - still think the squirrels need to be culled (apart from the lovely ones that visit my garden ) - waves to any squirrels reading this

Wendy I know you cant get on so if you cant tomorrow have a Great time in LA and hope every thing goes ok