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Old 23-06-2014, 21:37
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that is some list, maybe just invest in netflix?
Only about three of those titles are on Netflix AFAIK. It's not that good for films to be brutally honest, if it wasn't for the excellent TV side of things I'd have cancelled my subscription an awfully long time ago.
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Old 23-06-2014, 21:40
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Channel 5 is the bigger likelihood, no?
I tried to press Five on this subject today but unfortunately without success. All I could find out was that deals were "still being worked on."

They normally save their big premieres for September onwards so we'll know more then.
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Old 23-06-2014, 23:55
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They could always move Downton to Christmas Eve if the ratings aren't spectacular this year. They could do well having Downton in Christmas Eve, IIRC December 24th was a bit of a vacuum last year.
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Old 24-06-2014, 03:44
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When is Frozen going to premier, i'm thinking maybe 2016 new year day or 2017?

Also when do you think

Twighlight part 2
The Hobbit Part 1

Will Premier
Frozen - Xmas 2016 at the earliest
Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 2 - Later this year or early next year
The Hobbit - 2015 or later


There's no way ITV would show a big film on Xmas Day
See also Tangled.
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Old 24-06-2014, 08:24
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What channel are these films likely to premiere on when are they likely to premiere
Ted - 2015 (C4/C5)
The raid - ? (C5)
Django unchained - 2015 (C4)
Skyfall - 2014 (ITV)
Sinister - 2015 (C4/C5)
Dredd - 2015 (C4)
Lawless - 2015 (BBC)
Men in black 3 - 2015 (ITV)
The avengers - Easter 2015 (C4)
The cabin in the woods - 2015 (ITV)
American reunion -2015 (ITV)
And
John carter
- Xmas 2014 or Early 2015 (BBC/ITV)

Only guesses, and The Dark Knight - 2015 (ITV) followed by The Dark Knight Rises a week later.
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Old 24-06-2014, 08:45
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- Xmas 2014 or Early 2015 (BBC/ITV)

Only guesses, and The Dark Knight - 2015 (ITV) followed by The Dark Knight Rises a week later.
I think:
Ted - 2015 (Universal so C4)
The Raid - 2014/5 (Momentum so C4)
Django Unchained - 2015 (Sony so C4/5)
Skyfall - 2014 (ITV)
Sinister - 2015 (Momentum so C4)
Dredd - 2015 (Entertainment Film Distributors so I think C5 is more likely)
Lawless - 2015 (Momentum so C4)
Men in Black 3 - 2015 (Sony so C4/5)
The Avengers - Easter 2015 (Disney - though Paramount kept TV rights for some of their channels - so BBC/ITV or perhaps C4)
The Cabin in the Woods - 2015 (Lionsgate so C4/5)
American reunion -2015 (ITV)
And
John carter (BBC/ITV)
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Old 24-06-2014, 12:00
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What channel are these films likely to premiere on when are they likely to premiere

The raid
Ask and you shall receive!

July 11th - 22:55 - Film4
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:06
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They could always move Downton to Christmas Eve if the ratings aren't spectacular this year. They could do well having Downton in Christmas Eve, IIRC December 24th was a bit of a vacuum last year.
Xmas Eve is usually a time when people are busy trying to get their kids to bed or seeing friends and/or out getting pissed. Xmas Day - everything is closed, so they have a captive audience for ratings. You won't get Downtown on Xmas Eve.

See also Tangled.
Ah, that's the one I was thinking of. I was surprised about that. Can't remember what BBC1 were showing at the time, but it must've been a premiere also as it was on at 3.10pm.

Re: The Raid
Ask and you shall receive!

July 11th - 22:55 - Film4
Blimey, C4 really haven't a clue about premiering films. It's a massive film and so they stick it on at 10.55pm? I know it'd go on at 10pm at the earliest, being an 18, but nearly 11pm is ridiculous.
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:42
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Blimey, C4 really haven't a clue about premiering films. It's a massive film and so they stick it on at 10.55pm? I know it'd go on at 10pm at the earliest, being an 18, but nearly 11pm is ridiculous.
The term massive film and a low budget Indonesian action film with a budget of less than $1m rarely go together...

Also, they can't stick it on at 10PM, they always start a film at 9PM on Film4, so unless they can find an hour long film, 10.55PM, is probably the earliest slot they can give it...
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Old 24-06-2014, 23:41
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The term massive film and a low budget Indonesian action film with a budget of less than $1m rarely go together...

Also, they can't stick it on at 10PM, they always start a film at 9PM on Film4, so unless they can find an hour long film, 10.55PM, is probably the earliest slot they can give it...
Thanks I been wanting to see the raid for ages now I hope its worth the 2 and a half year wait
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Old 24-06-2014, 23:50
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The term massive film and a low budget Indonesian action film with a budget of less than $1m rarely go together...

Also, they can't stick it on at 10PM, they always start a film at 9PM on Film4, so unless they can find an hour long film, 10.55PM, is probably the earliest slot they can give it...
I think DVDfever has a point to be honest. It's a very popular title (overrated IMO) and as such deserved a more prominent placing in the schedule. If this was not possible on Film4, it should have been scheduled on one of the other channels. It's not going to find much of an audience where they've put it.
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Old 24-06-2014, 23:54
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I think DVDfever has a point to be honest. It's a very popular title (overrated IMO) and as such deserved a more prominent placing in the schedule. If this was not possible on Film4, it should have been scheduled on one of the other channels. It's not going to find much of an audience where they've put it.
Film4 use this slot a lot for bigger indie films, Machete, Red State and Goon all took similar slots, so it must work...
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Old 25-06-2014, 07:25
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I think DVDfever has a point to be honest. It's a very popular title (overrated IMO) and as such deserved a more prominent placing in the schedule. If this was not possible on Film4, it should have been scheduled on one of the other channels. It's not going to find much of an audience where they've put it.
Usually it will be shown on C4 as well at some stage.
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Old 25-06-2014, 10:42
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Why are channel 4 showing all the big premiers now. I saw Jonny English 2 is on in a couple of weeks. I thought that was going to be on ITV?
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Old 25-06-2014, 18:07
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Why are channel 4 showing all the big premiers now. I saw Jonny English 2 is on in a couple of weeks. I thought that was going to be on ITV?
Channel 4 have always had more than everybody else, and I believe they recently nabbed the Universal contract. (As well as possibly the Sony contract.)
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:08
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The term massive film and a low budget Indonesian action film with a budget of less than $1m rarely go together...
I see your point, but Dancc sums up my thoughts, except about it being overrated.

I think DVDfever has a point to be honest. It's a very popular title (overrated IMO) and as such deserved a more prominent placing in the schedule. If this was not possible on Film4, it should have been scheduled on one of the other channels. It's not going to find much of an audience where they've put it.
About your other bit, theonlyweeman:
Also, they can't stick it on at 10PM, they always start a film at 9PM on Film4, so unless they can find an hour long film, 10.55PM, is probably the earliest slot they can give it...
Yes, that is a problem. There was a 9pm C4 film recent-ish-ly which resulted in The Guard premiering about 10.50pm. That's a perfect comedy film, to me, but it's also an 18 which restricts when it can be shown.

Thanks I been wanting to see the raid for ages now I hope its worth the 2 and a half year wait
Definiteiy. Best to record first or start recording it and doing what you need to do so you can rewind bits, as there's so much going on that you have to watch most fights at least twice. That's one of the reasons I didn't see Raid 2 at the cinema. The other was that unlike the first film, it went on for a ridiculously long 150 minutes.

Usually it will be shown on C4 as well at some stage.
At 3am with windmill hands, sadly.

Channel 4 have always had more than everybody else, and I believe they recently nabbed the Universal contract. (As well as possibly the Sony contract.)
Trouble with their Universal films is that there's no DD5.1 on them. They're all Pro Logic at best. I should really ask them about this.
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Old 26-06-2014, 15:01
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I could be wrong, but I don't believe Friday Night Lights (the original film) has ever been shown on Freeview, which seems rather odd given the TV series was shown on ITV4.
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Old 26-06-2014, 16:10
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Channel 4 have always had more than everybody else, and I believe they recently nabbed the Universal contract. (As well as possibly the Sony contract.)
I think 5 have the Sony films again as they've recently shown 21 Jump Street and The Vow, both Sony films. The Paramount films seem to be in limbo, I'm guessing they will go to 5 once the Viacom deal is concluded.
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Old 26-06-2014, 20:05
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I could be wrong, but I don't believe Friday Night Lights (the original film) has ever been shown on Freeview, which seems rather odd given the TV series was shown on ITV4.
You don't have to have brains to be a TV scheduler. The BBC once had a buffoon who randomly dotted Little Dorrit about the schedules, a few years ago, as if he was having to negotiate around a World Cup. It was referred to as "Hunt the Dorrit".

The bloke responsible appeared on Points of View to basically say, "I'm right, you're all wrong."
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Old 26-06-2014, 20:13
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I think 5 have the Sony films again as they've recently shown 21 Jump Street and The Vow, both Sony films. The Paramount films seem to be in limbo, I'm guessing they will go to 5 once the Viacom deal is concluded.
21 Jump Street was co-financed by MGM, back when they were big in the TV game, so I'm guessing the TV rights will have been brought from MGM rather than Sony.

It seems odd to me that C4 would show a few Sony films only for the contract to revert back a year later...
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Old 26-06-2014, 20:24
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Another update:-


THUR. 26TH:-

I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT (2011), ITV2+1 9.00-11.00pm).

THE WALL (?), True Entertainment 11.00pm-1.00am.

PREY (2007), Movie Mix 11.25pm-1.15am.

FRI. 27TH:-

RED STATE (2011), Film 4 10.45pm-12.25am (+1 11.45pm-1.25am).

WED. 2ND:-

POPULATION 436 (2006), Movie Mix 9.00-10.55pm.

FRI. 4TH:-

OF PURE BLOOD (1986), True Entertainment 5.00-7.00pm.

FRI. 11TH:-

THE RAID (2011), Film 4 10.55pm-? (+1 1.55pm-?am).
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Old 26-06-2014, 23:29
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[quote=Jonwo;73370526]I think 5 have the Sony films again as they've recently shown 21 Jump Street and The Vow, both Sony films. The Paramount films seem to be in limbo, I'm guessing they will go to 5 once the Viacom deal is concluded.[/quote

If 5 gets the right to paramount films
Will they show the long awaited iron man 2 Thor captain america and transformers 3 (even though I hated transformers 3 but didn't hate it much as number 2)
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Old 26-06-2014, 23:33
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[quote=Roboaaron;73380086]
I think 5 have the Sony films again as they've recently shown 21 Jump Street and The Vow, both Sony films. The Paramount films seem to be in limbo, I'm guessing they will go to 5 once the Viacom deal is concluded.[/quote

If 5 gets the right to paramount films
Will they show the long awaited iron man 2 Thor captain america and transformers 3 (even though I hated transformers 3 but didn't hate it much as number 2)
Disney brought the rights to the former Marvel Cinematic Universe films (with the exception of The Incredible Hulk, which they're trying to erase from people's memories), so TV rights could literally end up anywhere...
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Old 27-06-2014, 14:36
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21 Jump Street was co-financed by MGM, back when they were big in the TV game, so I'm guessing the TV rights will have been brought from MGM rather than Sony.

It seems odd to me that C4 would show a few Sony films only for the contract to revert back a year later...
The BBC had the rights to the 2006 WB films as they showed Superman Returns and The Ant Bully so it's possible that Channel 4 gained the rights to the Sony films from 2010 and 2011 before Channel 5 renewed their contract with Sony, 5 did show some Sony films from 2010 like Grown Ups and The Other Guys.

The Marvel films, I think Paramount had TV rights for films up to Iron Man 3, in the US, Epix which is owned by Paramount, MGM and Lionsgate showed Iron Man 3 and The Avengers so it's possible that the situation is the same here but I wouldn't be surprised if like Bond, Harry Potter and Star Wars, the TV rights are sold separately from other films.
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Old 27-06-2014, 14:53
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The BBC had the rights to the 2006 WB films as they showed Superman Returns and The Ant Bully so it's possible that Channel 4 gained the rights to the Sony films from 2010 and 2011 before Channel 5 renewed their contract with Sony, 5 did show some Sony films from 2010 like Grown Ups and The Other Guys.

The Marvel films, I think Paramount had TV rights for films up to Iron Man 3, in the US, Epix which is owned by Paramount, MGM and Lionsgate showed Iron Man 3 and The Avengers so it's possible that the situation is the same here but I wouldn't be surprised if like Bond, Harry Potter and Star Wars, the TV rights are sold separately from other films.
Star Wars, and Indiana Jones were sold separately because they were owned by Lucasfilm and simply distributed by 20th Century Fox. However, 20th Century Fox has the the Star Wars films until 2020, except A New Hope, which they have indefinitely...

I think Harry Potter is sold separately due to the fact they're book adaptations (and Warner Bros. have been very aggressively commercial in it's treatment of them), and in recent years, and I think the Bond films are sold separately because MGM isn't the copyright holder, Danjaq is...

We can assume the Marvel Cinematic Universe isn't a separate contract, because Iron Man (distributed by Paramount) premièred on Channel 4, and The Incredible Hulk (distributed by Universal) premièred on ITV...
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