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Old 19-09-2011, 01:27
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Series 1 of Downton Abbey was 7 episodes. Episodes 1 and 7 were in a 90-minute slot, while episodes 2-6 were in a 60-minute slot. If the S1 finale ratings are any indication, the S2 premiere overnights could very well be over 10 million.
I don't think it can get anywhere near 10m in overnights - but I stand to be corrected, a lot of TXF viewers are going to turn over by default to another channel. Anything above an 8.5m overnight would be considered a healthy figure.

The Series 1 finale overnight was

20:00 - The X Factor: 14.92m (49.7%)
21:00 - Downton Abbey: 9.94m (37.3%)
and that was at the height of TXF ratings
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Old 19-09-2011, 01:36
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Oops! I was looking at the final ratings in your post, grahamzxy, but talked about overnights in my post! I meant to say that based on the S1 finale, the S2 premiere final rating should be well over 10 million.

It will be very interesting to see the overnights and finals for both Downton Abbey and Spooks. For UK viewers who like both shows, would it make more sense to watch Spooks live and record Downton Abbey, since you could skip through the commercials? Or if you couldn't watch both shows tonight, do you watch Downton because everyone will be talking about it tomorrow, and save Spooks for Monday night?
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Old 19-09-2011, 01:44
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I edited but on checking BARB was only a 7 week run
I stand corrected.
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Old 19-09-2011, 02:27
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I think Spooks will be around 4.4m-4.8m overnights and Downton Abbey around 8.2m-8.8m (exc +1). Even though they mostly attract different audiences there will inevitably be at least some overlap and both will be dented to some extent even if only very slightly. It's to early in the season for Downton Abbey to get 10m + in my opinion. X-Factor was pulling 15m overnights when Downton got to 10m last year, whereas at the moment X-Factor will "only" be around 11m. I expect we will see an increase in Downton's ratings as the series progresses though, there are a few newspapers with Downton and even Spooks on the front page tomorrow (Monday).
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Old 19-09-2011, 03:40
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Old 19-09-2011, 04:19
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I think I stand by my guess of around 9.5 million including HD and +1. There has been a lot of hype around this series, though Spooks is tough competition and the Xfactor as said above isnt near its peak in audience yet,

On the papers;
The Independent and its mini paper 'i' both have Downton v Spooks while the Daily Mail and The Telegraph only have Downton. You'll have to guess what the Star has....
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Old 19-09-2011, 04:48
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Old 19-09-2011, 08:10
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Originally Posted by Brekkie
We end up talking about the soon to be axed low rated flop that is Doctor Who with those sane rational folk out of the DW threads!

Look forward though to all the Doctor Who fans branding Downton a flop tomorrow should it only rate around the 8m mark.
Cut out the silly baiting - it is not necessary, and is totally ignoring the more mature discussion that had gone before.
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Old 19-09-2011, 08:41
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Downton Abbey, Maggie Smith and Mr Bates are all trending on twitter tonight. Not bad for a show that skews old. Nothing from spooks is trending.

I thought the show tonight was excellent to be fair, the acting was great.

I hope it does well in the ratings, but of it doesnt get 10 million no doubt RobbieSkyes and the like will say its a flop. (BTW Im also a big fan .
No, I wouldn't. But I might point out that despite the addition of Scots and the Downtongasm, it had rated lower than it ended its last run. Academic anyway, because it simply can't fail to overnight in the 10-11m bracket, possibly more as you would think at least some new viewers tuned in to see what all the fuss was about.

I don't understand why Downtonistas on here can underpredict with abandon, yet if I'm perceived to do it, you all come down on me like a ton of bricks.....
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:03
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I don't think Spooks will do very well in the overnights as a) it is ending; b) there is a BBC1 repeat tonight at 11pm; c) it's audience is young so timeshift a lot is likely; d) those that didn't watch it can catch up on iPlayer

However, given that 26 million will have probably been watching TV in the 9pm hour last night, I'll go for 4.3m (16.5%).
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:19
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No, I wouldn't. But I might point out that despite the addition of Scots and the Downtongasm, it had rated lower than it ended its last run. Academic anyway, because it simply can't fail to overnight in the 10-11m bracket, possibly more as you would think at least some new viewers tuned in to see what all the fuss was about.
Worth noting that last year's overnights included the Scots too (who were watching Taggart). It's the officials which didnt include the Scots. I think dave01 makes some good points: when DA managed c10m last year for its final episode it was up against a documentary which had only 2.8m and it had a lead-in of 14.9m. Yesterday, Spooks probably had 2m more than the documentary, the lead-in would've been ~4m lower and fewer people would've been watching TV last night than the ~27m who watched on that night in November, so in theory that would affect DA's overnights and negate any rise it could've experienced from the hype. I know I would've predicted ~10m (or close to that) had it been up against another sub-3m documentary last night, but I think it's almost inevitable that the Spooks clash will mean that both shows lose viewers and don't reach their full potential, as well as the other factors mentioned. We'll find out soon, I guess...
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:40
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Overnights in:

Downton (9.3m) Spooks (4.6m) Strikeback (462k) in the battle of the dramas

Source: John Williams, Sky Scheduler

I think that includes +1 for Downton.
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:41
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Downton Abbey debuts with 8.9m (inc HD) - nearly double Spooks' 4.6m - but not quite topping DA's best ever overnights of 10.08m.

Source: Michael Rosser
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:42
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X Factor - 11.2, 42.3%
Downton - 9.0, 34.6%
Spooks - 4.6, 17%
BB - 1.2, 4.6%
Just Not That In To You - 1.4, 5.2%
ITV News - 3.7, 20.3%
BBC News 3.3, 13.5%
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:42
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:44
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:46
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Here's series 1's overnights for Downton Abbey:

26/09 - 7.69m (30.1%)
03/10 - 8.78m (33.1%)
10/10 - 8.30m (31.4%)
17/10 - 9.05m (33.3%)
24/10 - 8.65m (32.6%)
31/10 - 9.02m (33.3%)
07/11 - 9.94m (37.3%)

Higher than all but one of last year's overnights, not bad at all for it. In fact, it's rather good.
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:48
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:50
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8.9m has to be seem as a bit disappointing given the hype and the extra Scots. You'd think DA would be a bigger draw than Taggart even north of the border. Brilliant for Spooks to be beaten by less than a 2 to 1 margin. It should have been worse, and you'd think Spooks will timeshift better than DA.

DA might just nose ahead of expensive megaflop DW's combined 10m once iPlayer/Itvplayer and timeshift is added....

TXF didn't set the world alight either....
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:53
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#XFactor tops again with a massive 11.478m and a 12.84m peak, 43.3% share. Big!

Source: ChristPA

That rating includes +1.

Here's series 1's overnights for Downton Abbey:

Higher than all but one of last year's overnights, not bad at all for it. In fact, it's rather good.
Yeah it's a great rating IMO. It may have got 10m had it not aired against Spooks, aired in October or had a 15m lead-in from TXF. But given the different factors yesterday, just over 9 million is very good IMO. It also had a higher share than all of those episodes, bar the final one. It also has the potential to grow for the rest of the series.
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Old 19-09-2011, 09:53
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8.9m has to be seem as a bit disappointing given the hype and the extra Scots. You'd think DA would be a bigger draw than Taggart even north of the border. Brilliant for Spooks to be beaten by less than a 2 to 1 margin. It should have been worse, and you'd think Spooks will timeshift better than DA.

DA might just nose ahead of expensive megaflop DW's combined 10m once iPlayer/Itvplayer and timeshift is added....

TXF didn't set the world alight either....

if 2 programs on the BBC got 11.2 and 8.9m we would not have heard the end of it but because it's on ITV You say it's disappointing. Can't you give any credit to ITV.
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Old 19-09-2011, 10:00
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8.9m has to be seem as a bit disappointing given the hype and the extra Scots. You'd think DA would be a bigger draw than Taggart even north of the border. Brilliant for Spooks to be beaten by less than a 2 to 1 margin. It should have been worse, and you'd think Spooks will timeshift better than DA.

DA might just nose ahead of expensive megaflop DW's combined 10m once iPlayer/Itvplayer and timeshift is added....

TXF didn't set the world alight either....
"Brilliant for Spooks to be beaten by less than a 2 to 1 margin."

I fail to see how you fail to see how this comes across.

And all your other pronouncements....
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Old 19-09-2011, 10:01
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8.9m has to be seem as a bit disappointing given the hype and the extra Scots. You'd think DA would be a bigger draw than Taggart even north of the border. Brilliant for Spooks to be beaten by less than a 2 to 1 margin. It should have been worse, and you'd think Spooks will timeshift better than DA.

DA might just nose ahead of expensive megaflop DW's combined 10m once iPlayer/Itvplayer and timeshift is added....

TXF didn't set the world alight either....
Your posts get more and more ridiculous as every day goes by. You're probably doing it for a reaction, what a sad life you must lead.
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Old 19-09-2011, 10:03
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Re - X Factor:

As thus...

OVERNIGHT RATINGS
2009 Auditions Average: 10.3m (46%)
2010 Auditions Average: 11.0m (46%)

2011
Auditions 1- 10.8m (45.7%) / 11.3m
Auditions 2- 10.1m (42.8%) / 10.6m
Auditions 3- 10.5m (43.4%) / 11.1m
Auditions 4- 10.6m (43.6%) / 11.1m
Auditions 5- 10.3m (37.8%) / 10.8m
Auditions 6- 10.8m (44.5%) / 11.1m
Auditions 7- 11.2m (42.3%) / 11.5m

Leading to an overnight Auditions Average of 10.6m (43%) excluding +1/11.1m including +1.
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Old 19-09-2011, 10:05
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"Brilliant for Spooks to be beaten by less than a 2 to 1 margin."

I fail to see how you fail to see how this comes across.

And all your other pronouncements....
ok, perhaps "brilliant" wasn't the right word

"acceptable" perhaps, or "better than expected"....
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