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Old 31-08-2011, 15:03
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True. Its performance has always been mainly down to the relative quality of the ITV opposition, which is something that Adrian and Christine chose to ignore when they were reaping the benefit of a weakened Emmerdale. They believed their own publicity, and thought they were the reason for its success.
Unfotunately for ITV their execs seem to think it was down to these two too, and paid them way more than they were worth. BBC in hindsight must be delighted to be rid of them.
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:07
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Really good rating for EastEnders, its biggest Tuesday audience since 17th May, over three months ago. There's been some promos for EastEnders in the last few days, not sure if they've been promoting this week or next week, but I think those trails would've helped a little bit. 8-10pm very solid, as usual, for BBC1 with Harry's Arctic Heroes slightly up from last week. The Great British Bake Off on BBC2 is rating fantastically this series, that's the 2nd week in a row its risen, and 3.6m up against Holby City is very strong. I wonder if it's BBC1 promotion material? It could be hitting 4.0-4.5m by the end of its series. The drama at 9pm also did really well for them, the last few weeks, they've had plenty of successes in that department.

Really poor for Grimefighters, it always rates badly, but they keep bringing it back for some reason. I don't think ITV1 has had such a low rating in that slot apart from one episode of Animal Kingdom a few months ago. The Cops with Cameras repeat did alright hitting 3m compared to how they usually do there, but very poor once again for the Unforgiven repeat, easily last in its slot. They really need to pick their drama repeat choices better, they've made some awful decisions with those in the last couple of weeks. Seven Dwarves on C4 is holding pretty steady above the 2m mark which is good, but that rating for Shameless is low. Usually series openers begin with close to 3m viewers - I know it wasn't like a usual series opener in January/February when it's normally scheduled, but I still expected it to return with over 2m. The show seems to be quickly declining which is a massive problem for C4 because they don't have any other drama series waiting in the wings to replace it. Good job by CBB to beat it and it's holding up well, down just 0.1m from last week despite the tougher competition. Also Bit on the Side seems to be hitting its stride on 5*, from memory that's the highest rating it's had on the channel so far, as the first few episodes were hovering around just the 160k mark so that's a good 50-70k up from how it was doing initially.
The EastEnders trailers are for the month
It shown a few clips from last weeks Southend episodes/Rob whitney storyline Climax

And shown clips for this weeks storyline with the return of Mandy Salter (A Character that left 17 years ago)

It also shows clips for next weeks huge plot with the masoods and the build up to Amiras return and David Essex exit

The Trailers are about whats Happening in Albert Sqaure and don't really state a week/or episode
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:07
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From Channel 4: http://www.channel4.com/media/docume...11%20final.pdf

Top Series for July
1,820,095 - Hollyoaks
1,075,681 - 8 Out of 10 Cats (Season 11)
1,060,235 - Sirens (Season 1)
1,040,453 - Come Dine with Me (Season 22)
901,696 - The Inbetweeners (Season 3)
812,576 - Camelot (Season 1)
754,295 - Dirty Sexy Things (Season 1)
707,928 - The Killing (Season 1)
624,105 - Deal or No Deal
582,558 - The Big Bang Theory (Season 4)

Impossible to work out exact numbers for each episode in some cases, ie. Inbetweeners as I'm not quite sure how many episodes were screened, regardless in all of that case, its all from repeat airings. But, for some we can work out estimate accurate numbers....

Views per Episode
265k - Sirens (4 episodes)
215k - 8 Out of 10 Cats (5 episodes)
189k - Dirty Sexy Things (4 episodes)
177k - The Killing (4 episodes)
163k - Camelot (5 episodes)
104k - Come Dine with Me (10 episodes)
91k - Hollyoaks (21 episodes)
24k - Deal or No Deal (26 episodes)

Obviously, not sure how 100 percent accurate that is, but should give you an idea nevertheless. In some cases, I've not counted all episodes, Come Dine with Me is only 10 episodes as Series 22 is the daytime series.

Just one thing I'm getting from the Jay Hunt interview is that I wish Broadcast and DS did '16 to 34' or 'ABC1' ratings articles, while things may look like a flop from the outside, that maybe a hit in the target demographic.

Also, she says 10 O'Clock Live is likely to be recommissioned.
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:21
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Also, she says 10 O'Clock Live is likely to be recommissioned.
Why? It was a ratings disaster.

Surprisingly low for Shameless last night. That show looks to be in trouble if it doesn't pick up soon.
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:24
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So The Nation's Esteemed Channel of the Year now being beaten by cake-making shows and arty movies on minority channels?

Oh how the mighty....
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:26
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Why? It was a ratings disaster.

Surprisingly low for Shameless last night. That show looks to be in trouble if it doesn't pick up soon.
I guess many of its core viewers are currently on remand....

I wonder if a "riots backlash" has affected it, with the show in its current form having contributed so much to a breakdown in moral values in this country of late?
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:39
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Why? It was a ratings disaster.

Surprisingly low for Shameless last night. That show looks to be in trouble if it doesn't pick up soon.
Shameless is still doing good numbers especially compared to Channel 4's other dramas but I do think that having 22 episodes has hurt its ratings. I don't think cancellation is likely until It drops to 1m or below.
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:49
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Shameless is still doing good numbers especially compared to Channel 4's other dramas but I do think that having 22 episodes has hurt its ratings.
And the fact that it's a pale shadow of the brilliant drama it once was. They turned it into a farcical soap opera loved by chavs and rioter scum who view it as an instruction manual for life...
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:52
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Shameless is still doing good numbers especially compared to Channel 4's other dramas but I do think that having 22 episodes has hurt its ratings. I don't think cancellation is likely until It drops to 1m or below.
The problem is it was barely above 2m (or not at all if you exclude +1) for the series premiere last night, and generally the trend from here is downwards. A dip next week is practically guaranteed due to last night's first look on E4. (I know technically it wasn't a "premiere" but rather the start of the second half of the run, but you know what I mean)
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Old 31-08-2011, 15:56
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someone stick a form in ITV, its in danger of being over done.
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Old 31-08-2011, 16:08
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someone stick a form in ITV, its in danger of being over done.
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Old 31-08-2011, 16:08
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The problem is it was barely above 2m (or not at all if you exclude +1) for the series premiere last night, and generally the trend from here is downwards. A dip next week is practically guaranteed due to last night's first look on E4. (I know technically it wasn't a "premiere" but rather the start of the second half of the run, but you know what I mean)
Shameless has always run in January so airing an episode in August was going to rate lower. I do think it needs to end before it is cancelled but Channel 4 have nothing to replace it with.

CSI: Miami was up but 8pm is looking to be a problem as Revealed failed to crack 1m.
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Old 31-08-2011, 16:09
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Don't think Ortis has been doing too badly to be honest.
C4 don't seem to agree they've been trying to remove all the the videos of him from You Tube.
I saw him and I couldn't believe how genuinely awful he was, From the looks Michael Johnson was giving him I think he agreed.A shame as I enjoyed the rest of their coverage.


Dailymotion have it here.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xks...rclass-youtube
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Old 31-08-2011, 16:54
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The Sun reporting that David Hasselhoff has been axed from BGT:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ing-slump.html

Sounds like they weren't too pleased with the series overall. McIntyre will probably be back according to the article (and he went down well). Amanda Holden isn't mentioned but I'm not too sure whether she'll be back as isn't she due to give birth around the time the auditions take place? I won't be surprised if they do another revamp of the panel with McIntyre and 2 new judges if this about the Hoff is true (and I think it might be as there were rumours that ITV weren't happy with him when the series was on air).
I can see the point about a lack of (celebrity) spakle. But I don't think the judges panel was the main problem this year. If anyone goes, The Hoff seems most likely. Cowell likes him but that hasn't been an obstacle in the past.

Indeed on that topic, if they need some celebrity sparkle, then there's one candidate in particular who would bring that. Whether or not she's willing to work for Cowell again, I don't know! Cheryl, Michael and Amanda might work. I think changing to 2 women and 1 guy would up the glamour a bit. The male judges seem to be of less interest these days.

McIntyre will definitely be back, though. I actually thought the biggest issue with the judges was bringing Cowell back for the live shows. The Hoff probably would have been the tougher judge but it all got a bit messed up at that point, IMO. And obviously Cowell was having a rather difficult week!
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:30
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I can see the point about a lack of (celebrity) spakle. But I don't think the judges panel was the main problem this year. If anyone goes, The Hoff seems most likely. Cowell likes him but that hasn't been an obstacle in the past.

Indeed on that topic, if they need some celebrity sparkle, then there's one candidate in particular who would bring that. Whether or not she's willing to work for Cowell again, I don't know! Cheryl, Michael and Amanda might work. I think changing to 2 women and 1 guy would up the glamour a bit. The male judges seem to be of less interest these days.

McIntyre will definitely be back, though. I actually thought the biggest issue with the judges was bringing Cowell back for the live shows. The Hoff probably would have been the tougher judge but it all got a bit messed up at that point, IMO. And obviously Cowell was having a rather difficult week!
that makes sense cause when cowell sits in the live finals 2 men 2 women would have a nice balance

3 males judges was overkill.

people are blaming the hoff but people forget the acts were pretty terrible last year, and the mantra seems to be focused on wacky acts that are no longer funny
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:31
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Brilliant performance from BBC2. The Great British Bake Off seems like a really big hit for them and growing all the time. It suits the slot very nicely, and provides them with a great platform to push on at 9pm. The Boy in the Stripped Pajamas did excellently too - to be fair, the entire season of BBC Films they've been running have been a resounding success. The Trust was criticising the BBC management just last year for not making these films prominent enough. Good scheduling after Dragons Den on Sunday and now in this slot has worked wonders.

Strong night for BBC One too with its usual staples performing well and Harry's Arctic Heroes very stable. Channel 5 had a good night too with its reliable bankers and CBB steady despite decent competition. The less said about ITV1 the better - with September now arriving we should finally start seeing the back of those sorts of nights.

And I'm marking Shameless down as a concern for Channel 4. Obviously its commissioned (with a huge episode order) through till the end of next year, but that return figure seems low and history suggests we can expect the run to fall much further over the coming weeks. It's natural for a show that is getting on towards a decade old, of course, but it does make you rather aware that Channel 4 has so very little in terms of returnable drama to replace it with...
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:37
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I'm guessing he meant "fork", as the channel gets a nightly grilling from the other four. At least till the end of this week.

Any news George on whether ITV has put a copycat prime time (celebrity) cake making show into commission yet?
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:39
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CSI: Miami was up but 8pm is looking to be a problem as Revealed failed to crack 1m.
Yeah, a relief to see CSI: Miami above 2m for the first time this year. It seems The Hour might have been hurting it. Shame about last night's Revealed, which was a really touching well made documentary.

Channel 5 are not giving up at 8pm though. Their latest Royal Navy series Submarine Mission makes its debut in that slot on Mondays from next week. The previous Caribbean Patrol was a huge hit in the 9pm slot earlier in the year.
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:41
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Tuesday 30th August Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.65m (20.2%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.38m (38.4%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.3m (22.9%)
21:00- Harry's Arctic Heroes: 4.46m (19%)
Strong primetime lineup from the BBC as is normal on a Tuesday. Eastenders did very well there for an August screening - well above average. Holby City is still running along nicely and currently set for its highest rated overnight yearly average since 2008 if things continue well.

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 630k (7.6%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.11m (7.5%)
19:30- Mexican Food Made Easy: 514k (2.4%)
20:00- Revealed: 744k (3.2%)
21:00- CSI: Miami: 2.15m (9.1%)
22:00- Celebrity Big Brother: 2.28m (12%)
Strong night for Channel 5, very rare to see 2 programs on the same evening over 2 million for them. A shame that Revealed rated so low though.

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 22.8%
ITV1: 11.8% (+1: 0.5%)
BBC Two: 11.3%
Channel 4: 7% (+1: 0.8%)
Channel 5: 6.2%
BBC2 came really close to beating ITV1 last night, looks like Emmerdale just saved it for them. Channel 4 have taken another day of lead over Channel 5 but I suspect C5 will win tonight with their live CBB eviction. Also I can't believe how badly ITV1 did on Sunday in the primetime shares, not just getting a record low but absolutely decimating the previous record low by a wide margin! They should be on for some huge shares in the coming weeks though. Doc Martin and 90mins of soap on Monday nights is going to be huge.
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:43
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Any news George on whether ITV has put a copycat prime time (celebrity) cake making show into commission yet?
I'm looking forward to Celebrity Baking With The Stars on BBC1
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Old 31-08-2011, 17:59
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god its like watching ME present a sport. Sports coverage is cleary not his thing.

Its odd because he has plenty of presenting experince on CBBC and The Gadget Show.

I'm guessing he meant "fork", as the channel gets a nightly grilling from the other four. At least till the end of this week.

Any news George on whether ITV has put a copycat prime time (celebrity) cake making show into commission yet?
to put it another way "the films finished, let the credit rolls" how do you not know the "stick a fork in it, its done" ?
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Old 31-08-2011, 18:23
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ITV1 seem to go into ratings freefall at times, Tuesdays in particular. Maybe BBC1 does have 2m+ default viewers in prime time, whereas ITV1 does not have such devotion.
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Old 31-08-2011, 18:30
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Thanks to Elgin for the following which involves the BSI striking again....

- Dragons' Den has moved to Monday in the final update, with the Sunday episode gone.
- The Hotel Inspector has been removed completely.
- Celebrity Masterchef is as billed yesterday.
- Come Fly With Me is being repeated post-news on Fridays.

Why do they treat Dragons' Den like crap?
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Old 31-08-2011, 18:43
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A lot of talk about Shameless on here today.

So just to clarify a few points...I'd hardly describe it as a series premiere. This is the continuation of the current run that ended earlier this year after 13 episodes. There are 22 in total so after last nights episode, 8 more to show. It was always going to be lower with starting it again in August. This series also isn't the best (speaking as someone who's seen every episode of Shameless) so maybe viewers are losing interest, add to that the CBB competition, I don't think its too bad overall.
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Old 31-08-2011, 18:45
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Some astonishingly bad scheduling moves by the BBC there. Celebrity MasterChef's semi-demotion to daytime is a real shocker.
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