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I think viewers are getting bored of Ant & Dec.
Despite what some may claim Push the Button is not hitting the usual heights, and ITV are only keeping it around, as they have little else (other than Syco TV productions of course), so as not to publically bruise the egos of Ant & Dec, and to stop people asking if there pay checks is worth while. Im pretty confident both Im a Celeb and BGT wouldnt suffer from them not being involved, and BGT is an example of them riding Simon Cowells coat tails. (I guess they really are ITV people )If Ant or Dec fail to bring something worthwhile to Red or Black? I think the secert that they are starting to fail, will soon be out. They could have had someone like Kate Thornton or Christine Bleakley hosting Red or Black |
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Murray cruising at Flushing Meadow, England need 10 off last over at Old Trafford.
Good night for sports fans.
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Thanks to Elgin for the following which involves the BSI striking again....
- Dragons' Den has moved to Monday in the final update, with the Sunday episode gone. - The Hotel Inspector has been removed completely. - Celebrity Masterchef is as billed yesterday. - Come Fly With Me is being repeated post-news on Fridays. Why do they treat Dragons' Den like crap? Quote:
Some astonishingly bad scheduling moves by the BBC there. Celebrity MasterChef's semi-demotion to daytime is a real shocker.
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I think viewers are getting bored of Ant & Dec.
Despite what some may claim Push the Button is not hitting the usual heights, and ITV are only keeping it around, as they have little else (other than Syco TV productions of course), so as not to publically bruise the egos of Ant & Dec, and to stop people asking if there pay checks is worth while. Im pretty confident both Im a Celeb and BGT wouldnt suffer from them not being involved, and BGT is an example of them riding Simon Cowells coat tails. (I guess they really are ITV people )If Ant or Dec fail to bring something worthwhile to Red or Black? I think the secert that they are starting to fail, will soon be out. |
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After the Ortis Deely fiasco, surely this shows that the likes of Ant & Dec are worth every penny. Presenters who are confident and engaging on screen are worth their weight in gold.
They could have had someone like Kate Thornton or Christine Bleakley hosting Red or Black |
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I wonder if the very loyal generation of ITV viewers that stood by the station for decades have either passed away or changed loyalties. I don't mean this in a sarcastic way, but I do wonder if the hardcore ITV viewers who stood by the channel from the start( parental grandparents) and rarely watched anything else have died out as it seems the main ITV station generates little loyalty now except for its biggest shows.
Maybe that's what an older generation grew up on? ITV1s choice of programmes at the moment almost feels designed to stop people watching the channel. And so many soaps! |
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They are keeping it away from X Factor, seems like they care enough about it not to want it to be heavily dented on the Sunday.
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Or Phil Schofield who seems to monopolise all the other ITV1 LE.
What about Paul O'Grady, Ross, Vernon Kay, Dermot O'Leary? |
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You fail to mention the rush for the window you can't see on Sky Sports News which closes in 88 minutes...
![]() ![]() Still, I expect SSN will have a very healthy share. Deadline Day just gets more ridiculous each year. ![]() I don't think the Dragon's Den scheduling has been as bad as its made out. 9pm on premiere allowed it to take a Top Gear boost and the shift to 8pm has really enhanced the overall schedule - so at least there has been sound reasoning for it till now. The Celebrity Masterchef thing is really inexplicable, though. I can only assume Danny Cohen has simply decided he didn't want 2 versions of the same show in his primetime - though it would certainly have done a solid ratings job. Even if that is the case, though, you'd have expected it back on BBC2 or even perhaps 5.15 (presumably, they don't want to shift Pointless). In any case, I suppose the daytime controller must be delighted! |
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Good on Danny Cohen for moving Celebrity Masterchef to daytime. It's no more daft than airing a series of big name Jimmy McGovern dramas at 2.15...
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Shine should threaten to take the format elsewhere. The MasterChef brand deserves better, just look at how it thrives on commercial networks in other countries...
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Oh no, not two and a half hours!!!!! of a hit show in prime. How dreadful. Maybe they should ship EE to 10am while they're at it.
And maybe if Eastenders was cut back to 2 episodes a week the writers could put more thought into their scripts and the programme wouldn't be continually slated by the critics for having rubbish, far-fetched stories and characters that change their personality episode by episode. Ditto Coronation Street which has been getting quite a severe kicking for quite a few of its recent plots. |
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I think viewers are getting bored of Ant & Dec.
Despite what some may claim Push the Button is not hitting the usual heights, and ITV are only keeping it around, as they have little else (other than Syco TV productions of course), so as not to publically bruise the egos of Ant & Dec, and to stop people asking if there pay checks is worth while. Im pretty confident both Im a Celeb and BGT wouldnt suffer from them not being involved, and BGT is an example of them riding Simon Cowells coat tails. (I guess they really are ITV people )If Ant or Dec fail to bring something worthwhile to Red or Black? I think the secert that they are starting to fail, will soon be out. Quote:
Good on Danny Cohen for moving Celebrity Masterchef to daytime. It's no more daft than airing a series of big name Jimmy McGovern dramas at 2.15...
Primetime certainly doesn't need it - although 5.15pm probably better than 2.15pm. The only primetime slot I'd give Masterchef is 7pm over the summer and let The One Show have a break. |
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I don't like BBC1 at all but there is still that sense of a menu of programmes, most nights. Starters with "The One Show" and then it goes through various courses.
Maybe that's what an older generation grew up on? ITV1s choice of programmes at the moment almost feels designed to stop people watching the channel. And so many soaps! Nowadays, for all ITV1 has made a bit of a comeback in the last few years, apart from Corrie and Emmerdale( and even these aren't such huge hits now), I doubt the older viewers who grew up watching ITV would be that tempted by Show Me The Funny and Born to Shine. |
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Oh Ortis!
![]() That was a horror show. He had some serious nerves but he's good at live TV usually. Must have been seriously outside his comfort zone.
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Oh no, not two and a half hours!!!!! of a hit show in prime. How dreadful. Maybe they should ship EE to 10am while they're at it.
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That makes up for all those times when it took up two and a half hours!!!!!
of BBC1 primetime.. |
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Let's go back several decades to ITV1's strongest night, a Monday, you had huge ratings hits like Opportunity Knocks, the imperial era Coronation St, George and Mildred, World in Action, The Sweeney and News At Ten. These were all programmes that were so good and popular they developed loyalty to the ITV brand and also kept established viewers tuned in as BBC1 was fighting back in the ratings.
Or more to the point was that the line up on any single day at any time of year, or the usual rose tinted specs combination of a whole decade's big hits? |
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Shine should threaten to take the format elsewhere. The MasterChef brand deserves better, just look at how it thrives on commercial networks in other countries...
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I heard a rumour ITV Sport are sniffing round...
![]() I can't think of any ITV Sport presenter who has ever been anywhere near as bad as that. Adrian may umm and err as part of his normal speech, but he generally knows what is going on and can read autocue as well as ad-libbing well. It's nice to see criticism of sports coverage involving something that was on the BBC but is now on commercial TV not involving ITV for a change. Also for once Channel 4 are not just quietly 'getting away with it' under the radar. |
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If they wanted to move it off BBC1 prime time they should have given it back to BBC2 instead of moving it to daytime. For a show that got 6.6m viewers for the latest series final to be moved to daytime is just baffling.
I think Celeb Masterchef is a Masterchef too far. |
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If they wanted to move it off BBC1 prime time they should have given it back to BBC2 instead of moving it to daytime. For a show that got 6.6m viewers for the latest series final to be moved to daytime is just baffling.
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That was ordinary Masterchef though, wasn't it?.
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According to the thread on the TV forum, Comedy Central will begin showing Friends on October 1st. It'll air at 5pm and 8pm as has been the case on E4 and CC will add showings during the day and at midnight. They'll air 12 episodes a week from Monday-Saturday with "marathon" Sundays showing all 12 in one go. So it'll be a cycle every 20 weeks or so (2.5 cycles per year).
It's also going to be in HD which I think is a good move as it gives them an angle for promotion as well. Quite surprised that promotion hasn't started already, tbh. And they don't seem to have made any big acquisitions from the US this season - they should have been lining up more comedy for the 9pm slot after Friends, IMO. Surprised that E4 are experimenting with the 8pm hour. I'd have thought they'd look for consistency (TBBT at 8pm, HIMYM at 8.30pm or the other way around). |
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According to the thread on the TV forum, Comedy Central will begin showing Friends on October 1st. It'll air at 5pm and 8pm as has been the case on E4 and CC will add showings during the day and at midnight. They'll air 12 episodes a week from Monday-Saturday with "marathon" Sundays showing all 12 in one go. So it'll be a cycle every 20 weeks or so (2.5 cycles per year).
It's also going to be in HD which I think is a good move as it gives them an angle for promotion as well. Quite surprised that promotion hasn't started already, tbh. And they don't seem to have made any big acquisitions from the US this season - they should have been lining up more comedy for the 9pm slot after Friends, IMO. Surprised that E4 are experimenting with the 8pm hour. I'd have thought they'd look for consistency (TBBT at 8pm, HIMYM at 8.30pm or the other way around). |
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C4 don't seem to agree they've been trying to remove all the the videos of him from You Tube.
I saw him and I couldn't believe how genuinely awful he was, From the looks Michael Johnson was giving him I think he agreed .A shame as I enjoyed the rest of their coverage.Dailymotion have it here. ![]() http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xks...rclass-youtube
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I can see the point about a lack of (celebrity) spakle. But I don't think the judges panel was the main problem this year. If anyone goes, The Hoff seems most likely. Cowell likes him but that hasn't been an obstacle in the past.
Indeed on that topic, if they need some celebrity sparkle, then there's one candidate in particular who would bring that. Whether or not she's willing to work for Cowell again, I don't know! Cheryl, Michael and Amanda might work. I think changing to 2 women and 1 guy would up the glamour a bit. The male judges seem to be of less interest these days. McIntyre will definitely be back, though. I actually thought the biggest issue with the judges was bringing Cowell back for the live shows. The Hoff probably would have been the tougher judge but it all got a bit messed up at that point, IMO. And obviously Cowell was having a rather difficult week! Peter Fincham sounded keen to keep Cowell on-screen on BGT at Edinburgh last year so he might pop up again. Really though I think he needs to either do the whole series or not doing at all as turning up halfway through the series again would be ridiculous. ITV would probably like him to do the whole series but he's probably got other ideas. Him, Cheryl and Michael could work, although they could keep Amanda and have 4 judges. Alternatively if he doesn't come back (and I think the likelihood of him coming back depends on how well X Factor US does) they could do with getting someone who would be a bit tougher. Jonathan Ross is doing a lot with ITV just now and it would give him a nice boost too so Ross, McIntyre and Cole could work. Amanda has been a good judge overall during her 5 years but it might be time for her to move on now, particularly if she's going to be giving birth during the auditions (somehow I don't think Amanda returning for the live shows would have quite the same impact as Simon!). I don't think the Hoff did a bad job at all in fairness but he didn't get the warm reception that McIntyre did and I don't think he particularly gelled with the other 2 judges. He was definitely the one that Simon overshadowed the most on the live shows. I also get the impression that ITV didn't necessarily choose him either, as it sounds like Cowell picked him and ITV picked McIntyre, so they had one choice each, so they might not have particularly wanted him on there in the first place (fits with the rumours of him being axed that started just 3 weeks into the series). |
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