Yes, I've gone right off Miami. I was never a great lover of it, it's always been the weakest of the three for me, but I barely watch it now.

I absolutely adore New York. It's such a great show with a fantastic cast. CBS were stupid putting it on Friday nights.

The original and some would say the best CSI: Vegas I also enjoy, but the show has seen better days. I am hoping this season with the cast changes it will get back on track.

next series is going to VERY important for CSI, Ted Danson coming in, and Marg leaving (at some point during the series), the new season could be very important for ALL the CSIs.

I just hope we don't lose all three. That would be a dark day for US TV if that happened. I know it would live on in reruns, but it's such a reliably good watch. You need shows like that in the schedule.

To be honest not many of the new US TV shows for this coming season excite me. I can't predict which if any will take off. (Well, except The X Factor USA)

I am sure CBS will not be looking to loose all 3 in one go, it would devaste Channel 5, and wont be easy to recover from even for CBS.

Maybe CBS is planning for a time beyond CSI, by phasing out CSI NY this season, we shall have to wait and see.

I guess from CBSs POV (& Channel 5) CSI Miami is not undergoing any changes, and can more or less continue until Horatio gets bored, and he seems to be having far too much fun to ever quit.

CBS tried that last season with Criminal Minds spinoff. That didn't work.

Does anyone know how Celebrity Masterchef did on its daytime debut?

I think there's a decent chance that this could be the final season for both Miami and New York. Obviously a lot is going to depend on how CBS' schedule shakes out over the season (and not just new shows but some returning shows like The Good Wife, Blue Bloods and Hawaii Five-0) but neither show is in a particularly strong position right now. It may become a question as to whether or not the syndication revenue is enough to make producing more episodes worthwhile or not and whether that's enough to offset any loses CBS face by continuing to air shows which have dramatically dropped their audience but not their budgets.

In general though this coming season could be a very difficult one for CBS because they've made some decisions that have the potential to backfire in a major way.

Back on UK ratings

Doc Martin returns big and after Red or Black last week finally some good news for ITV1. More good news for them in that Corrie bounced back from last weeks performance with a strong showing as well.

Over on BBC1 The Queens Palaces did about as well as can be expected. In fact given the performance of ITV1 it may have done much better than expected. Outside of the Corrie/Red or Black pairing didn't anything on ITV hold up that well against New Tricks?

I'm slightly disappointed in that number for Dispatches on 4. Although it was a bit of a mixed bag I thought the subject matter would grab a slightly bigger audience than that.

From DS:

Primetime shares: ITV1 26.8% (+1: 0.6%);BBC1 18.4%; BBC2 7.7%; Channel 4 5.3% (+1: 0.9%); Channel 5 3.8%.

ITV2 Hell's Kitchen USA 323k (1.2%); and 108k (0.6%) on +1BBC4 Victoria Coren's Only Connect 531k (2.1)

SS1 Premier League Queen's Park Rangers / Newcastle 846k (3.6%)

I see that ITV's Daybreak with 800,000 viewers continues to build on the audience it inherited a year ago from GMTV of....er...800,000.

from Broadcast:

In a show what, even in its hayday, dropped viewers throughout the series this is a scary number. At this rate could see a saturday show going below 1m

just looking at the changes on CSI

As I said previously I think the problem with Big Brother is much more base than people want to admit - its the format and not the scheduling, promotion, quality or housemates that's the problem. This a show that has been on the air for more than a decade at this point with what is the exact same format and not even a basic cosmetic change to it. Show's like The X Factor at least have the option to play around with the categories and the judging panel to give the illusion of freshening the show up with Big Brother that simply hasn't happened. Its still the exact same show it was on Channel 4 when it launched in 2000.

The audience has moved on from Big Brother and unless Big Brother is willing to adapt and evolve with new format points its not going to win that audience back.

+1 Just to add, it's a HUGE investment timewise and in the Autumn schedule where there are a lot of new shows starting, you really need to be a massive fan to sacrifice so much else to follow BB.

How can 8.4m be judged as OK? And why would you expect 9m for a series launch when this has never happened before? With +1 included it averaged 8.7m. That's better than I was expecting. And against almost 4m on BBC1. Surely NT should have been rating better according to your theory when ITV1 had less than 2m in that slot?

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As for last night that's an excellent return for Doc Martin. I think it should maintain a solid audience throughout its run. The soaps did OK, but I'd expect them to be closer to 9m by now. At least Corrie recovered after last weeks scheduling shambles. Poor for BB. I wonder how low its going to go now?

As announced on This Morning, Deal or No Deal is going live for two weeks. As this is Channel 4, I wouldn't be too surprised if this is shown in the middle of primetime, to be quite honest.

I'm not sure I can take Ted Danson seriously as a CSI. Hes just too type cast as a comedy actor for me. Maybe Frasier will start doing the autopsy's instead of Doc Robbin?

The DSRPG is forecasting 8.9 Million viewers for the return of Downton Abbey on Sunday (my birthday):

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...&postcount=965

yes im not sure about him either, and as I said in the spoilers, the 2nd half of S12 could be a real struggle.

Do they not think that DA will be affected by Spooks just a little bit.

Very good ratings for Doc Martin, quality does mean ratings now and again.

Spooks has its ups and downs over the years but its certainly been up last year and likely good this year.

With the final series all eyes are on Harry. I can see at high 5 million watching, with Downton pulling a low 8 million.
A noticeable dent but nothing horrible.

cant speak for anybody else, but its Spooks all the way for me.

I'll eat my hat if Downton is below 9m on Sunday. I think Spooks will do ok on timeshift though but Downton's the event show.

I thought the same about John Lithgow who I knew well from Third Rock, then he blew me away in Dexter 4.