Prison food v School food

TheMagic8ball · 01-09-2011, 04:27

Which would you imagine is worse?

big_hard_lad · 01-09-2011, 08:36

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Which would you imagine is worse?

Sadly I think school food is probably worse.

In a similar vein....I remember from that Heston program where he changed the foods in certain places (a cinema, a naval submarine, etc.) that both the armed forces and prisoners get exactly the same budget per day for food. Something like £1.70 per day. Quite sad really that the ones out defending our country are allowed to spend the same as those who derail it.

MiSSSmith · 01-09-2011, 11:00

I think most catered food, when strictly budgeted for, is gonna be fairly grim.

Porcupine · 01-09-2011, 11:09

The prison food where my husband works is lovely. They have all sorts of nationalities there, so the menu is vary varied and they use the best ingredients. No slop allowed.

It is an open prison too, so the workers also get a packed lunch. Two sarnies, some fruit, a carton of juice and a sweet treat.

big_hard_lad · 01-09-2011, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Porcupine

The prison food where my husband works is lovely. They have all sorts of nationalities there, so the menu is vary varied and they use the best ingredients. No slop allowed.

It is an open prison too, so the workers also get a packed lunch. Two sarnies, some fruit, a carton of juice and a sweet treat.

Makes me sick to be honest when I think of some of the shit our kids get served. I'm not suggesting that they are served gruel in prison, but I do think that they should be served a nutritionally balanced diet that is suitable for fuelling their bodies....not for pleasure.

c4rv · 01-09-2011, 12:04

If people are not prepared to pay for it then school food is going to rubbish.

My kids primary school charges £2 a meal and food is made fresh on site and delicous. They have a program where by once every 1/2 term I can go and have lunch with them. My friends kids school does not have a on-site kitchen and all the meals are cold.

malpasc · 01-09-2011, 12:19

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Originally Posted by big_hard_lad

Makes me sick to be honest when I think of some of the shit our kids get served. I'm not suggesting that they are served gruel in prison, but I do think that they should be served a nutritionally balanced diet that is suitable for fuelling their bodies....not for pleasure.

Personally I think we should campaign to improve school food and food served to the elderly in council homes etc, not downgrade prison food just because.

Perhaps the managers of school and other public catering facilities should look at how managers of prison catering manage to provide decent food with a limited budget and try following their example.

TheMagic8ball · 01-09-2011, 12:34

Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value?

DitzyDi · 01-09-2011, 12:49

What do prisoners get for their meals?

When I was at school the meals were really nice - we got main meal which was all cooked on site then a pudding.

BrunoStreete · 01-09-2011, 13:15

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Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball

Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value?

I doubt many people if any on this thread have ever experienced prison food so probably can't comment.

TheMagic8ball · 01-09-2011, 13:19

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Originally Posted by BrunoStreete

I doubt many people if any on this thread have ever experienced prison food so probably can't comment.

Yes, but I asked what you would imagine is worse.

BrunoStreete · 01-09-2011, 13:24

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Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball

Yes, but I asked what you would imagine is worse.

Not what you stated in your previous post.

TheMagic8ball · 01-09-2011, 13:31

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Originally Posted by BrunoStreete

Not what you stated in your previous post.

Well, one of us has a bad set of eyeballs, Bruno. Can you guess who?

BrunoStreete · 01-09-2011, 13:35

This is what you wrote:-

Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value?

It's a fairly pointless thread if people aren't allowed to give facts and can only 'imagine' don't you think?

TheMagic8ball · 01-09-2011, 13:39

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Originally Posted by BrunoStreete

This is what you wrote:-

Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value?

It's a fairly pointless thread if people aren't allowed to give facts and can only 'imagine' don't you think?

You don't read the first post of a thread, do you?

BrunoStreete · 01-09-2011, 13:40

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Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball

You don't read the first post of a thread, do you?

Yes I do. But the fact remains this thread is pointless as 'imagining' something is just that.

TheMagic8ball · 01-09-2011, 13:45

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Originally Posted by BrunoStreete

Yes I do. But the fact remains this thread is pointless as 'imagining' something is just that.

Well you must struggle in the world, not being able to imagine getting home after a stressful day or not being able to imagine the next summer and how much fun could be had

degsyhufc · 01-09-2011, 16:32

I'm sure there was uproad and outrage recently over plans to give prisoners more choice (veggie, vegan, halal etc).

Russ_WWFC · 01-09-2011, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Porcupine

The prison food where my husband works is lovely. They have all sorts of nationalities there, so the menu is vary varied and they use the best ingredients. No slop allowed.

It is an open prison too, so the workers also get a packed lunch. Two sarnies, some fruit, a carton of juice and a sweet treat.

It's a disgrace that they get fed so well in prison, budget should certainly not be so high, 20p per meal, something like that

At my school the food was of a pretty good standard to be fair, if it was something I liked it was of decent enough quality

whackyracer · 01-09-2011, 17:54

We used to have lovely school dinners at primary school, there were freshly cooked hot meals and choice of puddings. When I went to secondary school they served mainly junk like burgers and chips etc so I switched to packed lunches. The burgers looked like dog food...or worse! And the gravy was so thick you could have pasted wallpaper with it!

malpasc · 02-09-2011, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Russ_WWFC

It's a disgrace that they get fed so well in prison, budget should certainly not be so high, 20p per meal, something like that

At my school the food was of a pretty good standard to be fair, if it was something I liked it was of decent enough quality

What do you suggest prisoners should be served then? Bearing in mind you have to cater for different religious requirements, vegans, vegetarians, people with allergies or illnesses that require special diets, plus to have to ensure that they have all the nutrients in them to prevent illness caused by vitamin and mineral defficiencies - one of the reasons it would be impossible to just feed prisoners bread and water.

Russ_WWFC · 02-09-2011, 13:17

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Originally Posted by malpasc

What do you suggest prisoners should be served then? Bearing in mind you have to cater for different religious requirements, vegans, vegetarians, people with allergies or illnesses that require special diets, plus to have to ensure that they have all the nutrients in them to prevent illness caused by vitamin and mineral defficiencies - one of the reasons it would be impossible to just feed prisoners bread and water.

They are supposed to be in prison though, tough luck if you are veggie or religious, should have thought about that before you committed the crime.

They can be fed in part by growing their own in prison allotments and the prison should do deals with local supermarkets to buy anything that they are binning for mega cheap - much of it is fit to eat anyway

whoever,hey · 02-09-2011, 18:58

You should lose any right to religious or veggie nonsense in prison.

BrunoStreete · 03-09-2011, 07:38

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Originally Posted by Russ_WWFC

They are supposed to be in prison though, tough luck if you are veggie or religious, should have thought about that before you committed the crime.

They can be fed in part by growing their own in prison allotments and the prison should do deals with local supermarkets to buy anything that they are binning for mega cheap - much of it is fit to eat anyway

Yeah, treat them like shit once they're inside because that obviously works. See the U.S. for a great example.

Russ_WWFC · 03-09-2011, 08:28

No model if prison really works though, if you are scum you will stay scum and reoffend.

If you are one of those that went into prison due to something you did that was out of charecter, you won't reoffend, though even some of those end up getting sucked into the criminal world

01-09-2011, 04:27	#1
TheMagic8ball Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,038	Prison food v School food Which would you imagine is worse?

01-09-2011, 08:36	#2
big_hard_lad Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 4,011	Quote: Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball Which would you imagine is worse? Sadly I think school food is probably worse. In a similar vein....I remember from that Heston program where he changed the foods in certain places (a cinema, a naval submarine, etc.) that both the armed forces and prisoners get exactly the same budget per day for food. Something like £1.70 per day. Quite sad really that the ones out defending our country are allowed to spend the same as those who derail it.

01-09-2011, 11:00	#3
MiSSSmith Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 222	I think most catered food, when strictly budgeted for, is gonna be fairly grim.

01-09-2011, 11:09	#4
Porcupine Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 21,392	The prison food where my husband works is lovely. They have all sorts of nationalities there, so the menu is vary varied and they use the best ingredients. No slop allowed. It is an open prison too, so the workers also get a packed lunch. Two sarnies, some fruit, a carton of juice and a sweet treat.

01-09-2011, 11:43	#5
big_hard_lad Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 4,011	Quote: Originally Posted by Porcupine The prison food where my husband works is lovely. They have all sorts of nationalities there, so the menu is vary varied and they use the best ingredients. No slop allowed. It is an open prison too, so the workers also get a packed lunch. Two sarnies, some fruit, a carton of juice and a sweet treat. Makes me sick to be honest when I think of some of the shit our kids get served. I'm not suggesting that they are served gruel in prison, but I do think that they should be served a nutritionally balanced diet that is suitable for fuelling their bodies....not for pleasure.

01-09-2011, 12:04	#6
c4rv Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Essex Posts: 16,218	If people are not prepared to pay for it then school food is going to rubbish. My kids primary school charges £2 a meal and food is made fresh on site and delicous. They have a program where by once every 1/2 term I can go and have lunch with them. My friends kids school does not have a on-site kitchen and all the meals are cold.

01-09-2011, 12:19	#7
malpasc Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,350	Quote: Originally Posted by big_hard_lad Makes me sick to be honest when I think of some of the shit our kids get served. I'm not suggesting that they are served gruel in prison, but I do think that they should be served a nutritionally balanced diet that is suitable for fuelling their bodies....not for pleasure. Personally I think we should campaign to improve school food and food served to the elderly in council homes etc, not downgrade prison food just because. Perhaps the managers of school and other public catering facilities should look at how managers of prison catering manage to provide decent food with a limited budget and try following their example.

01-09-2011, 12:34	#8
TheMagic8ball Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,038	Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value?

01-09-2011, 12:49	#9
DitzyDi Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 215	What do prisoners get for their meals? When I was at school the meals were really nice - we got main meal which was all cooked on site then a pudding.

01-09-2011, 13:15	#10
BrunoStreete Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7,071	Quote: Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value? I doubt many people if any on this thread have ever experienced prison food so probably can't comment.

01-09-2011, 13:19	#11
TheMagic8ball Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,038	Quote: Originally Posted by BrunoStreete I doubt many people if any on this thread have ever experienced prison food so probably can't comment. Yes, but I asked what you would imagine is worse.

01-09-2011, 13:24	#12
BrunoStreete Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7,071	Quote: Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball Yes, but I asked what you would imagine is worse. Not what you stated in your previous post.

01-09-2011, 13:31	#13
TheMagic8ball Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,038	Quote: Originally Posted by BrunoStreete Not what you stated in your previous post. Well, one of us has a bad set of eyeballs, Bruno. Can you guess who?

01-09-2011, 13:35	#14
BrunoStreete Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7,071	This is what you wrote:- Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value? It's a fairly pointless thread if people aren't allowed to give facts and can only 'imagine' don't you think?

01-09-2011, 13:39	#15
TheMagic8ball Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,038	Quote: Originally Posted by BrunoStreete This is what you wrote:- Look, I only started this thread in the late of night as a joke because I was sleepy and everything but you people have really interested me in this matter. So pretty much everyone so far has maintained that prison food is better than school food due to its nutritional value? It's a fairly pointless thread if people aren't allowed to give facts and can only 'imagine' don't you think? You don't read the first post of a thread, do you?

01-09-2011, 13:40	#16
BrunoStreete Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7,071	Quote: Originally Posted by TheMagic8ball You don't read the first post of a thread, do you? Yes I do. But the fact remains this thread is pointless as 'imagining' something is just that.

01-09-2011, 13:45	#17
TheMagic8ball Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,038	Quote: Originally Posted by BrunoStreete Yes I do. But the fact remains this thread is pointless as 'imagining' something is just that. Well you must struggle in the world, not being able to imagine getting home after a stressful day or not being able to imagine the next summer and how much fun could be had

01-09-2011, 16:32	#18
degsyhufc Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 58,791	I'm sure there was uproad and outrage recently over plans to give prisoners more choice (veggie, vegan, halal etc).

01-09-2011, 17:22	#19
Russ_WWFC Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,710	Quote: Originally Posted by Porcupine The prison food where my husband works is lovely. They have all sorts of nationalities there, so the menu is vary varied and they use the best ingredients. No slop allowed. It is an open prison too, so the workers also get a packed lunch. Two sarnies, some fruit, a carton of juice and a sweet treat. It's a disgrace that they get fed so well in prison, budget should certainly not be so high, 20p per meal, something like that At my school the food was of a pretty good standard to be fair, if it was something I liked it was of decent enough quality

01-09-2011, 17:54	#20
whackyracer Guest Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,792	We used to have lovely school dinners at primary school, there were freshly cooked hot meals and choice of puddings. When I went to secondary school they served mainly junk like burgers and chips etc so I switched to packed lunches. The burgers looked like dog food...or worse! And the gravy was so thick you could have pasted wallpaper with it!

02-09-2011, 12:58	#21
malpasc Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,350	Quote: Originally Posted by Russ_WWFC It's a disgrace that they get fed so well in prison, budget should certainly not be so high, 20p per meal, something like that At my school the food was of a pretty good standard to be fair, if it was something I liked it was of decent enough quality What do you suggest prisoners should be served then? Bearing in mind you have to cater for different religious requirements, vegans, vegetarians, people with allergies or illnesses that require special diets, plus to have to ensure that they have all the nutrients in them to prevent illness caused by vitamin and mineral defficiencies - one of the reasons it would be impossible to just feed prisoners bread and water.

02-09-2011, 13:17	#22
Russ_WWFC Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,710	Quote: Originally Posted by malpasc What do you suggest prisoners should be served then? Bearing in mind you have to cater for different religious requirements, vegans, vegetarians, people with allergies or illnesses that require special diets, plus to have to ensure that they have all the nutrients in them to prevent illness caused by vitamin and mineral defficiencies - one of the reasons it would be impossible to just feed prisoners bread and water. They are supposed to be in prison though, tough luck if you are veggie or religious, should have thought about that before you committed the crime. They can be fed in part by growing their own in prison allotments and the prison should do deals with local supermarkets to buy anything that they are binning for mega cheap - much of it is fit to eat anyway

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02-09-2011, 18:58	#23
whoever,hey Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30,072	You should lose any right to religious or veggie nonsense in prison.

03-09-2011, 07:38	#24
BrunoStreete Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 7,071	Quote: Originally Posted by Russ_WWFC They are supposed to be in prison though, tough luck if you are veggie or religious, should have thought about that before you committed the crime. They can be fed in part by growing their own in prison allotments and the prison should do deals with local supermarkets to buy anything that they are binning for mega cheap - much of it is fit to eat anyway Yeah, treat them like shit once they're inside because that obviously works. See the U.S. for a great example.

03-09-2011, 08:28	#25
Russ_WWFC Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,710	No model if prison really works though, if you are scum you will stay scum and reoffend. If you are one of those that went into prison due to something you did that was out of charecter, you won't reoffend, though even some of those end up getting sucked into the criminal world