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Liz Jones - YOU magazine (Part 3)
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cathrin
25-09-2011
Originally Posted by plata_o_plomo:
“Hello there!

I was a lurker on this thread for quite some time, but have now joined and would like to say hello to all the people on this thread. I have been drawn to her YOU columns with an irresistible sense of repulsion for the past few years. Every weekend I end up rolling my eyes and throwing the magazine away after reading her self-pitying tripe, yet still I cannot resist reading every installment. ”

Welcome to the coven! Your post, especially the bolded bit, perfectly sums up the strange compulsion we all feel to read LJ's ramblings every week. Somehow we all just have to read it, even though we know it'll drive us all mad!
Habibti
25-09-2011
My contribution to MOS comments on Liz Jones' Cats & Dogs article - where I identified which themes she was recycling - was rejected. Maybe general negative comments are allowed but not ones specifically identifying her self-plagiarism...
Paula Panzer
25-09-2011
Originally Posted by Bellagio:
“Nope - because the RS doesn't exist. ”

Pretty much my point. She can't possibly carry on with the fantasy as too many people in the neighbourhood will be bound to notice the absence of a live-in RS sooner or later.
vikki13lou
25-09-2011
My comment got on the Dreary today -

Crikey, no comments as yet from the naysayers. Or perhaps they have found something else to occupy their shallow lives? Lets hope so! Liz - take a chance on RS and go for it or you will regret it in later life.

- StalkerAlert - CyanideCindy, Sheffield, Aww sweetie, bet you think Emmerdale is a documentary too, don't you?
- Vikki, Leeds, 25/9/2011 18:08
vikki13lou
25-09-2011
Ooft I got two in....not sure how I managed that (or managed to forget that I submitted two)

She told us who he was the other week - you lot must be as blind as she is deaf. She's perfectly entitled to be discreet, who are we to clash with her perogative. Good luck to them. Discretion is quite charming to see in this day and age, I hope it makes a comeback. - Trudi, Worcs, 25/9/2011 16:57 - I agree Trudie, I particularly liked how she discretely called his girlfriend "Eurotrash"......very charming, not to mention classy...
- Vikki, Leeds, 25/9/2011 18:03
ikkleosu
25-09-2011
Originally Posted by DorisMorris:
“No, I've just made that title all mine

One of the later DM comments today refers to a video*, where LJ can be seen sharing the front row with Timbo...albeit separated by one person.
*Maybe this one?

> Oscar De La Renta, NYFW 14th September 11 - Described as Spring 2012 show

Wellll.... if you stop at 00.35 seconds & 01.18mins (I couldn't face watching the rest of the clip, having ploughed through others ), there's LJ - large as life and wearing a white top - sitting on the front row.
As the DM poster said, it depends on how you define 'with' as there appears to be someone -in yellow-seated between her and JT.
OMG, is this the first ever 'LJ almost tells the truth' shocka? Is it??




”


That's not Justin Timberlake sitting close to her! It's nothing like him, and this photo shows, he doesn't have his head shaved at the moment: http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-j...124012704.html
DorisMorris
25-09-2011
The video clip shows who LJ was sitting next to, or not, as the case may be. She didn't tell the truth either way.

My original reason for posting was to make the following o/t reply:
Quote:
“Seabird:
...of course she is claiming there is no recession, obviously not for her, her recent descriptions of her increasingly lavish lifestyle is like Viv Nicholson, the Spend, Spend, Spend bingo winner (who blew the lot and went back to poverty)”

25/9/11:
"Football Pools winner Viv Nicholson on how she spent spent spent"
astor
26-09-2011
Just spent an afternoon with my 80 yr old mum who has been reading ( and enjoying ) the Liz Jones column for years.

We always have a laugh together about it.

She doesn't do internet. She was totally bemused when I told her about this site - and about the intensive research done by the Liz brigade to trip her up and catch her out. I told her most posters thought Liz was absolutely making up the whole RS thing.
She loved that, found it very funny.
DorisMorris
26-09-2011
Quote:
“She loved that, found it very funny.”

I'm pleased.
StressMonkey
26-09-2011
I'm sorry fellow Harpies, but Our Lizzie's latest article (the Cats more clever than Nirpal then off to looney land one) has done for me again.

I just can not read anymore nor post on the Fail on Sunday website.

I will try to post here and on the FB group, but I have gone into 'Liz is so f'cking pointless, why spend precious time reading' mode again.

There are not many writers that are so bad I physically and psychologically can not read them, but Liz is top of the list at times (after Peter Hitchins) and at the moment, I can not handle her madness.

She is truely batshit insane and I don't want to get infected.

So, I am on a Liz sabatical.

Think if we all took a break from her she'd just go away?

Nar, nor do I
DorisMorris
26-09-2011
StressMonkey...... I feel your pain
StressMonkey
26-09-2011
Originally Posted by DorisMorris:
“StressMonkey...... I feel your pain ”

Thanks DM (unfortunate initials) - it's not just me is it? That article - she has gone completely and utterly nuts?

"Because of the 40-degree heat, difficult terrain and lack of inflated tyres, the very small donkey was struggling. The boy continually beat the donkey with an iron bar, even when the beast was doing her best.
I flew at the boy, obviously, and tried to persuade him that if he got off the cart and pushed it too, he might deliver my jar of Nescafe a bit quicker, and the donkey would live longer. "

Surely no sane person could write shit like that? Putting the wellfare of a Donkey in war torn Somalia higher than that of a child? Fly at him rather than try to help him?

This is why I had a problem with her Brooke article.

And this is why I can't read her any more.

Bat. Shit. Insane.
astor
26-09-2011
Originally Posted by DorisMorris:
“I'm pleased.”

Why ?
DorisMorris
26-09-2011
I'm happy that she's happy.
DorisMorris
26-09-2011
Originally Posted by StressMonkey:
“Thanks DM (unfortunate initials) ..
Surely no sane person could write shit like that? Putting the wellfare of a Donkey in war torn Somalia higher than that of a child? Fly at him rather than try to help him?.......

And this is why I can't read her any more.

Bat. Shit. Insane.”



Oh yes. Understood.
StressMonkey
26-09-2011
"he might deliver my jar of Nescafe a bit quicker"

Sorry, should go to bed.

But......


Bat. Shit. Insane.
DorisMorris
26-09-2011
Originally Posted by StressMonkey:
“
Sorry, should go to bed.

But......


Bat. Shit. Insane.”



Utterly.

and I do agree with the following:
Quote:
“Thanks DM (unfortunate initials) ..”




Similarly to Sharanski's past comments about her DS username, I have to confess that mine was also a regrettable spur of the moment thing...
birdienumnum1
26-09-2011
Originally Posted by ikkleosu:
“That's not Justin Timberlake sitting close to her! It's nothing like him, and this photo shows, he doesn't have his head shaved at the moment: http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/the-j...124012704.html”

I think you're right! We were so busy looking for her, we never spotted that it's not him!
DorisMorris
26-09-2011
Who's going to tell LJ....
1Kenobi
26-09-2011
Hello - another longtime lurker here who has finally been allowed to post. I once sat next to LJ at an event at the beginning of the year and was DYING to tell you all about it and the only way I could do so was to go onto Mailwatch and get another poster (it was Bellagio) to copy my story over to you guys!

That is most definitely not JT, though to be fair it's relatively common for people who turn up early to a fashion show to plonk themselves down in one place before being moved on to another, so she could have sat next to JT for about.... oooh 5 mins.

Also going to make a spirited defence of Mumsnet - if you stay away from the 'am I being unreasonable' section it's a lovely, funny, supportive forum where I've been given masses of good advice. And the nicknames make me laugh, it's the very opposite of 'Carlysnanna'-type names you get on most parenting forums - one of the more prolific posters is called Any****er.
...That said, the LJ thread is baffling and downright weird. I never went on it as DS supplies all my LJ needs.

Thank you to everyone who posts on this thread for being endlessly amusing - I'd miss you all (though not her) if LJ stopped writing.
1Kenobi
26-09-2011
Sorry to double post but on a more serious note I am astonished that she thinks it's ok for a small child to work in 42 degree heat but not a donkey.

Or may be it's ok for children in 3rd world countries to work until they drop? I find it SO odd that she could aggress a small child for riding on a donkey while having to work and at the same time boast about her sponsorship of children in Bangladesh (or was it Pakistan?)

Also where the hell did this child get an iron bar from? And how was he strong enough to wield it???
Seabird
26-09-2011
[quote=1Kenobi;53063892]

Or may be it's ok for children in 3rd world countries to work until they drop? I find it SO odd that she could aggress a small child for riding on a donkey while having to work and at the same time boast about her sponsorship of children in Bangladesh (or was it Pakistan?) QUOTE]

Hi and welcome 1Kenobi (and to the other recent newbies!) great posts. Yes, I think of all the anoying things LJ does, for me one of the most objectionable is her warped standards when it comes to animal v. human suffering. I wish no harm on any creature but my main concerns will always be with humans, especially children. Being an 'animal lover' does not by default make you a good and righteous person and excuse such revolting behaviour and warped views as Liz. I would like to think that most genuine, balanced animal lovers would distance themselves from such misplaced opinions.
StressMonkey
26-09-2011
Originally Posted by Seabird:
“Hi and welcome 1Kenobi (and to the other recent newbies!) great posts. Yes, I think of all the anoying things LJ does, for me one of the most objectionable is her warped standards when it comes to animal v. human suffering. I wish no harm on any creature but my main concerns will always be with humans, especially children. Being an 'animal lover' does not by default make you a good and righteous person and excuse such revolting behaviour and warped views as Liz. I would like to think that most genuine, balanced animal lovers would distance themselves from such misplaced opinions.”

They'd also make some attempt to train their dogs, stop their dog from attacking sheep and know when enough is enough and end their cat's suffering.

They might also be a proper vegan

Sorry about my rant last night. I was starting to feel that maybe we were going a bit far with some of the comments, especially on the DM site. And then she writes something as insainly objectionable as the Donkey comment and reminds me exactly why people make the comments they do and made me feel an idiot for starting to feel sorry for her. Not quite as distasteful as her Jo Yeates piece but from the same part of her twisted psyche.

I do sometimes wonder if she does it deliberately to wind people up? Gets her more publicity, comments and more hits for the paper. Other than my previous 'bat shit insane' theory, it can be the only explaination for the Nescafe quote. Maybe we should have a poll - Liz Jones, Mad, Bad or both?
newbaby
26-09-2011
By way of a small diversion from all that has been said - so eloquently...and sensibly - about the very, very, very strange piece in the main part of the MoS * yesterday (the diary? well, more of the same), I did love reading in today's guide on what to wear, should you be foolish enough to follow LJ's fashion dictats, that "the skirt of the season" is The Kilt. The enthusiasm lasted for all of 2 lines as, apparently, skirts with pleats can make one look lumpy/fat. Or should that be a wee bit lumpy/fat?

* Written by someone using journalistic sat nav who then gets lost in the highways and byways of what does and doesn't make sense, and encounters a roundabout with no destination saying "good taste".
cathrin
26-09-2011
A very warm welcome to the new faces!

Originally Posted by cathrin:
“Has anyone seen the column in today's MoS? (the actual paper, not the You Diary). It's demented! Is it real? I actually bought a copy of the paper (please don't judge me, there was a £5 off at Tesco voucher inside) and my jaw hit the floor when I read it. I actually wondered if it was a spoof, or something written for a laugh that accidentally slipped through and got published. The bit about the boy with the donkey....I'm sure I remember reading something almost identical in a spoof recently!

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/femail...ainly-men.html

I know I’m supposed to put human beings, and particularly children, first, but in the Save The Children compound a few weeks ago, on the border between Kenya and Somalia, I saw a child with a donkey and cart delivering food to the aid workers. Because of the 40-degree heat, difficult terrain and lack of inflated tyres, the very small donkey was struggling. The boy continually beat the donkey with an iron bar, even when the beast was doing her best.
I flew at the boy, obviously, and tried to persuade him that if he got off the cart and pushed it too, he might deliver my jar of Nescafe a bit quicker, and the donkey would live longer



The rest of the column is bizarre, too, just a collection of unconnected ramblings on the usual subjects all strung together in a long nonsensical rant. I actually checked out the column on the website as soon as I'd read it in the paper, as I was sure it must be a hoax, so I was fully expecting it to have been taken down, but it was still there. Weird! Anyone else see the bit about the boy with the donkey and think the same thing?”

Originally Posted by StressMonkey:
“I'm sorry fellow Harpies, but Our Lizzie's latest article (the Cats more clever than Nirpal then off to looney land one) has done for me again.

I just can not read anymore nor post on the Fail on Sunday website.

I”

ETA: I accidentally quoted the wrong post from Stressmonkey; I meant to quote the one that included the same passage that I quoted above. That MoS column has obviously outraged many of us for the same reason. There were so many unpleasant things all squashed together, especially the "I flew at the boy, obviously" (well, obviously! Who wouldn't fly at a small child in those circumstances?) I still can't work out if it's supposed to be funny or not, the bit about delivering her jar of Nescafe a bit quicker if he pushed....what reaction is she aiming for?

When I first read the donkey paragraph, I literally did think it was a hoax that had somehow got through.
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