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It was bad enough when spermjacking (for some reason, this term sprang to mind: probably because my brain was inseminated by the hideous piece in today's DM) was mentioned once before but this, an entire article, is beyond "shock effect".

Confessional? Yes. Controversial? Yes. Outrageous? Yes. So I suppose it meets the cloudy remit of LJ's employment by the DM. But this was for all the wrong reasons. It's an article of such self-serving horror that it beggars belief. It's offensive and insensitive, particularly to those who are unable to have children and would love to have them.

Babies are not accessories or pawns to be used to manipulate or get back at a partner. Like kittens and puppies, they are for life and not just for Christmas. I'm sorry if that sounds frivolous, but it's the only analogy I can think of that LJ might comprehend.

The article is distasteful beyond belief, cruel, thoughtless, hurtful, insulting, imbecilic, sweepingly judgmental, stretches credulity to the limit and is only deserving of the opprobrium it has received.

I've revised my opinion that LJ has the sensitivity and intellect of a gnat. That is very unfair on a gnat.

Marathon rant, sorry, but I am incensed that LJ wrote the piece without thought to the hurt she would cause and that whoever it was at the DM who sanctioned this drivel-without-parallell didn't see that this was a seriously, seriously bad idea or predict the condemnation it was bound to produce.

Newbaby x
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I think with Liz we all have our 'straw that broke the camels back' moments. Mine was the Somali article and the Nescafe comment. And I can see that this waste of ink & bandwidth will be the final straw for many, many other people - pretty much every woman in her thirties and forties who doesn't appreciate Liz tarring all of them with her demented brush.

It could have been a piece that got her sympathy - my longing for a child, how I was so despirate that I resorted to these unforgivable actions. I hope Nirps and Trevor can forgive me but I was so very despirate and so scared of losing them and the opportunity to have a child if I was honest about my longing.

That I might have sympathy for. I already have two children but so wanted a third, but as my relationship was faltering rather than try IVF etc, we stopped trying. I would have dearly loved to have had another so I can't imagine how much more achingly terrible it is to want a child and be childless.

But instead she is on the attack, all these 'friends' she now suddenly has (when an article demands it - she'll be friendless as soon as the Dreary needs her to be I imagine) she attacks and uses as evidence to support her flawed proposition – that all women are like her. Which rather than evoke sympathy or even pity, invokes a great deal of anger.

Still, gets the DM the hits.

Is this her?
http://twitter.com/#!/RealLizJones

Can't decide whether the Mail will be pleased at the amount of traffic to the site courtesy of sperm gate or appalled at the furore and genuine outrage she's caused decent people.....again.

This being the DM they'll be rubbing their hands in glee I reckon.

The thing is, sperm doesn't last very long in a latex condom anyway. By the time she had fished it out of the bin and done whatever she did with it (i dread to think) there would be no point to it. She had more chance of getting pregnant during the actual sex with the condom on. Silly woman.

Strange how she had no qualms in putting herself through all that unneccessary and dangerous plastic surgery and yet, if she really was that desperate to have a child regardless of who the father is, she didn't have artificial insemination by a registred donor at a specialist clinic.

Oh, thank GOODNESS she didn't have a child or children. I'm just thinking about what it would be like to be the child of this hateful, manipulative, stupid woman. She didn't want a child, not like good potential mothers do; she wanted a means of manipulating the father and showing off. Heaven help the child if she wasn't beautiful and liked cakes, or if she was a he.

I have been trying not to imagine the logistics of her little in-the-bathroom business and failing. The one plus is that the people at the Mail who chose the picture really, really hate Liz. When she posed like that to illustrate her "I'm living like the LITTLE PEOPLE do" article, she surely can't have imagined how dreadful she looked or how often the Mail would re-use it. Hee hee.

I have a theoretical question. Liz loudly tells the world "I was / am anorexic." As evidence of this she tells us how thin she was and that she menstruated exactly once. Now frankly, I don't believe this, and I'd like to ask: do we have any pictures of Liz in which she actually looks anorexic? She's been a fairly prominent journalist for yonks--presumably she has been snapped in the Boney Maroney years. But I don't actually remember pictures in which she's LOOKED like an anorexic to my untutored eye. Pictures with Nirpal? She doesn't look anorexic if you've seen pictures of Karen Carpenter in her last years, it seems to me. Since she claims that this is a condition that has been "lifelong" there should be some pictures in which this is obvious. I recall that when Liz did a column a few years back about eating "normally" for a week, which involved a lot of cream buns, she didn't look anorexic. She looked like a normal to slightly slim woman to me. What puts things out of proportion is her huge moon face and quarts of hair looming at us, picture after picture.

She writes about anorexia as if its only symptoms are self-described extreme thinness and a lack of menstruation. Does she have other symptoms? Soft, downy hair that covers her body and brittle hair that falls out on her head? An obsession with exercise? She seems to think that her OB/GYN told her to take calcium because she's anorexic. No, dear, it's because you're getting older and need to stock up on it; I consume lots of milk products and pretty much everything else that comes in reach and isn't wiggling, so I'm not thin, but my doctor reminds me to take calcium regularly. Do anorexics have large bosoms? I honestly don't know.

WAS she anorexic? IS she anorexic? The links to photos on this page and the last don't suggest that to me. She just looks like a woman who was thin when she was younger, but not wildly so, and whose flesh hangs a little loose because she gets no exercise.

I think they may be alarmed at how the worm is turning with comments on Liz Jones and Amanda Platell's recent offerings. However just when I though DM posters were more enlightened than given credit for in the past, I read some of the comments under the Quentin Letts column and it was back to form criticising Labour front benchers for their childish behaviour but seemingly indifferent to when it came from Tories.

I wanted a career, freedom, a nice house and to keep my figure. As a feminist, I looked down on mumsy types.


As the step mother of a 'recovering anorexic' that one statement is enough to suggest that her Anorexia is not officially diagnosed but more self diagnosis.

No true anorexic believes she has a figure worth preserving. No matter what evidence you give her to the contrary she only ever sees a 'fat, hideous person looking back at her'.

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she has really hit a nerve with me now - SHE HAS NO IDEA HOW IT FEELS TO REALLY WANT A CHILD AND BE UNABLE TO CONCEIVE

I don't even bother with Platell.....she would eat herself if she was a bar of chocolate. Quentin Letts's is absolutely divorced from reality but can be unintentionally hilarious in a Boris Johnson sort of way and as for Jan Moir. Blimey where do the Mail find their columnists? TBH I'm not even sure why I bother with it but I guess it really is the easiest mind in neutral stuff unless you manage to read Liz and let her get under your skin which is becoming more and more common these days.

See, that's it-as I understand it anorexics tend to reject the diagnosis, not trumpet it to the sky, yet Liz mentions it again and again as if it were a badge of pride. It seems like self-diagnosis to me, too. She self-diagnosed her sister as probably having brittle bones without benefit of talking to her sister's doctor. Why would anyone want to imagine she was anorexic?

Googling images of Liz did NOT make me think "Oh, wrong--look, she's really unhealthily thin in this one." It made me think "Whack an inch off that pointy chin next time you go in for facial tightening, dear" and "Either get something done with those HUGE ears or stop pushing your hair behind them. They make me understand why you have a bat sanctuary--your ears, dear. They're a bit bat-like."

Again and again she pulls her overly-long, over-black hair starkly back behind the Batears so that it cuts across her forehead in a slash. Geometrics of this kind just do nothing for her face. It just intensifies the oddness of it. I want to say "Soften, soften, dear--consider a fringe and layers. We reach a certain age and that stark long-haired look is very, very dated. Do you see other women your age with long, stark hair pulled tightly back in this way? Do you see women of ANY age with long hair pulled starkly back behind their ears?" Surely Somerset and London are not full of women who have her 'do??

Reminds me of a line from a film....'my daughter's an anorexic, lucky thing'.

I think it's the bi-polar off the fashion industry, you know the 'cool illness' to say you have without the full blown suffering of a genuine sufferer?

I never really understand her look either.....for some one with ties to fashion she sure is dated, must be waiting for her look to come full circle as all fashion eventually does. A poor version of Anna Wintour and her individual look perhaps?

You know, if you look at her full-on with her hair pulled back in its standard way, slashed across her forehead . . . well, paint a little black mustache on and it's Hitler's long-lost sister!

@ccmc
No one told LJ that the fictional 'Boys From Brazil' method of recruiting donors (to help create numerous cloned offspring)
could only really work for a man....

[quote=ccmc;54212606]See, that's it-as I understand it anorexics tend to reject the diagnosis, not trumpet it to the sky, yet Liz mentions it again and again as if it were a badge of pride. It seems like self-diagnosis to me, too. She self-diagnosed her sister as probably having brittle bones without benefit of talking to her sister's doctor. Why would anyone want to imagine she was anorexic?

Googling images of Liz did NOT make me think "Oh, wrong--look, she's really unhealthily thin in this one." QUOTE]

To be fair to her (although I think she's loathsome) she did look overly thin in the wedding photo in this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...lly-weeks.html

That's what I have always thought - the black hair and black & white tailored clothes are her idea of an individual look as per Anna Wintour.

What's the betting the hair will be Back To Black by Christmas?

The wedding picture was a little blurry for me, but I'm sure it's not the only picture of the wedding and that she was underweight in others. The "painfully thin" picture doesn't convince me she's anorexic, and the thrust out tummy in the first picture is something I too could do when I was thin and had no muscle tone in my stomach--even weeks of eating cream buns didn't do that. Recent pictures of Demi Moore (I need a life) show a woman who is beginning to look pretty worrisome. I have an unhealthy interest in Karen Carpenter (I really, really need a life; I'm not a fan, and it's a long boring story) and "skeletal" is a reasonable description of her later years.

Mr. ccmc's gurning disgust and distaste as I described the Liz Jones Not at All Sure Fire fertilization method was alarming. He normally mentions women's nether bits, if he does at all, in accurate and inoffensive ways, but in speaking of Liz the word "drainpipe" came up to describe the target of her actions.

Jeez Louise !

Just caught up with that pic of the Lizard in The Daily Mash.
OMG. That's just nasty!
The 'facelift' looks like an absolute bodge/disaster
Her face is now so lop-sided that she looks like she had a stroke.
Its quite different from the heavily doctored pics we get in The Wail..

I just lost my dinner....

Why, oh why couldn't she have worked for "The News of the World"??

The woman is a nutcase.

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