[rhod]

Originally Posted by SHAFT

Have you seen his latest movie 'The Beaver'? His career is finished

I quite liked his performance in that film, actually! Not your usual run-of-the-mill plot, either. A bit different from the usual Hollywood fare.

[Rosie Red]

He's obviously got a nasty temper when roused, but do we know what provoked him. Maybe nothing, but his ex-wife said she never had a problem with him throughout their marriage.

He might be just a violent psycho, but on the other hand, there may be things we aren't aware of. No question that he's handled things very badly, and possibly ruined any chance of a sympathetic reaction.

[Patrick 1]

Isn't he a devout Catholic and yet left his wife of over 30 years for some young Russian bit,shame he's such an asshole,I loved the first two Mad Maxs,Galipoli and Year of the living dangerously.

[broadshoulder]

Originally Posted by Rosie Red

He's obviously got a nasty temper when roused, but do we know what provoked him. Maybe nothing, but his ex-wife said she never had a problem with him throughout their marriage.

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Thats what I dont understand. Robyn had been with him since the sevenites and his drunken days in Sydney.

I dont condone what Mel said but this Russian did have a history of getting pregant by famous men ie Tim Dalton.

[NotaTypo]

Originally Posted by Patrick 1

isn't he a devout Catholic and yet left his wife of over 30 years for some young Russian bit,shame he's such an asshole,I loved the first two Mad Maxs,Galipoli and Year of the living dangerously.

Oh yeah. He's so Catholic he built his own church that adheres to the old ways of Latin masses and mantillas on the women. But this "devout Catholic" shagged around on his wife, divorced her, slapped around his mistress and called jewish Winona Ryder an oven dodger.

He's only a bigoted, racist, anti-semite when he's had a bit too much to drink, though.

I fancied him and his bemulletted hair for many a year... Now that I know the kind of man he is, I don't any more.

[Nuartey1]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Lazarus

My dad's a Capricorn. That doesn't sound like him.

Yeah, well Cappys are also good at fooling people into thinking they're nice and caring while secretly stabbing you in the back.

[Prince Monalulu]

Originally Posted by Nuartey1

Yeah, well Cappys are also good at fooling people into thinking they're nice and caring while secretly stabbing you in the back.

Some people talk unadulterated nonsense on a similar level as Mel's old man's musings.
There are only 12 possible personality types in the world.
You'd have thought that if there only 12 differing scenarios for the entire world's population, the whole scheme would be blindingly obvious to all of us.

[Residents Fan]

Originally Posted by NotaTypo

Oh yeah. He's so Catholic he built his own church that adheres to the old ways of Latin masses and mantillas on the women. But this "devout Catholic" shagged around on his wife, divorced her, slapped around his mistress and called jewish Winona Ryder an oven dodger.

He's only a bigoted, racist, anti-semite when he's had a bit too much to drink, though.

I fancied him and his bemulletted hair for many a year... Now that I know the kind of man he is, I don't any more.

Gibson has become revealed as an awful human being-a shame as I used to enjoy him in stuff like "Lethal Weapon"
and "Mad Max".

The odd thing is that the ultra-conservative homophobic Catholic fundamentalist Gibson is friends with liberal lesbian atheist Jodie Foster and starred in the latter's unusual film "The Beaver".

[Rosie Red]

Originally Posted by NotaTypo

Oh yeah. He's so Catholic he built his own church that adheres to the old ways of Latin masses and mantillas on the women. But this "devout Catholic" shagged around on his wife, divorced her, slapped around his mistress and called jewish Winona Ryder an oven dodger.

He's only a bigoted, racist, anti-semite when he's had a bit too much to drink, though.

I fancied him and his bemulletted hair for many a year... Now that I know the kind of man he is, I don't any more.

He was divine wasn't he. I loved him in The Bounty.

I think he has serious psychological problems.

[sw2963]

Originally Posted by BirthdayGirl

Reading the thread title, I thought he'd died or something!

^This for sure!^

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by broadshoulder

it was called Tim.

Iwent off him big time when he slagged off gays on that Spanish interview and still went on to be feted on the red carpet etc.

It was only when he went for women and jews that the world turned against him.

Where was everybody in the 90s when he was homophobic and got away with it?

I never knew about that bit and I only recently found out about these horror remarks : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sha86PopjQ

He has effectively killed of his own career by keeping on saying this all this bad stuff instead of addressing the underlying issues.

[katmobile]

Originally Posted by broadshoulder

it was called Tim.

Iwent off him big time when he slagged off gays on that Spanish interview and still went on to be feted on the red carpet etc.

It was only when he went for women and jews that the world turned against him.

Where was everybody in the 90s when he was homophobic and got away with it?

Possibly because it was a Spainish interview it slipped under the wire.

It's churlish but I started to dislike Melly Mel when he started to make a career out of bashing the English in "Braveheart" and "The Patriot" - it was sort of satisfying to see that dislike be justified when he turned out be a misogonistic, homophobic, rascist alkie with possible physological problems. It's funny how your patronistism emerges in strange ways especially since I can't bear "Land of Hope and Glory" and the flag waving that accompanies it.

[Lizzie60]

Sorry to be a bit thick, but what has he done? I'm not a fan so don't keep up to date with/about him

WOOPS sorry. Just read the posts above

[Nuartey1]

Originally Posted by Lizzie60

Sorry to be a bit thick, but what has he done? I'm not a fan so don't keep up to date with/about him

WOOPS sorry. Just read the posts above

Oh, that's not enough. You should listen to the tapes. The posts above could never capture the the full scale of this monster:

Tape 1

Tape 2

Tape 3

Tape 4

Tape 5

Tape 6

Tape 7

Tape 8

Tape 9

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Originally Posted by Nuartey1

Oh, that's not enough. You should listen to the tapes. The posts above could never capture the the full scale of this monster:

Tape 1

Tape 2

Tape 3

Tape 4


Tape 5

Tape 6

Tape 7

Tape 8

Tape 9

I've just listened to the first of those. Awful, but fascinating, in a car-crash way!

ETA, listening to Tape 2 makes the first one pale into insignificance! He sounds truly demented in the second one! The most frightening parts are perhaps the two points where he starts hyperventilating so he can't speak, as it shows how out of control he is at that point!

[nw0307]

Originally Posted by katmobile

Possibly because it was a Spainish interview it slipped under the wire.

It's churlish but I started to dislike Melly Mel when he started to make a career out of bashing the English in "Braveheart" and "The Patriot" - it was sort of satisfying to see that dislike be justified when he turned out be a misogonistic, homophobic, rascist alkie with possible physological problems. It's funny how your patronistism emerges in strange ways especially since I can't bear "Land of Hope and Glory" and the flag waving that accompanies it.

That's when I started to dislike him too. It became very apparent at that time, that he had an irrational dislike for the English and in interviews constantly slagged us off for things that happened hundreds of years ago. Up to that point I loved him.

As for his wife saying he was never violent or abusive in their marriage, I heard several rumours during their marriage that he was and constantly womanising. I think she has chosen to deny it for the sake of their many children, and a large chunk of his cash, which she IMO is very entitled to. Getting divorced from him was probably the best thing she could have done.

I also think he has gone deeper into a downward spiral that has caused psychological problems. I think he has always been homophobic and racist but held it in. The ramblings of hatred of the English were a start but I think once he'd done Passion of the Christ and totally immersed himself into this fundamentalist Catholic thing, he really started going loony.

[PADDY75]

Originally Posted by dawnrayd

I don't consider him a horrible bloke, he's just a man, flawed, complicated, but still just a man.

Hmmm. Did you hear the tape recording when he was ranting at his ex? I know that people have bad days and I understand people say things out of frustration and anger but he sounded like a psychopathic lunatic. I would hazard a guess that his ex had been at the receiving end of his tirades before, as she seemed very nonchalant on the tape. I could not ever imagine the father of my children or anyone for that matter speaking to me like that. He certainly doesn't get a pass or deserve pass because he is a gifted actor. He needs help.

[Residents Fan]

Originally Posted by nw0307

That's when I started to dislike him too. It became very apparent at that time, that he had an irrational dislike for the English and in interviews constantly slagged us off for things that happened hundreds of years ago. Up to that point I loved him.

According to the Wensley Clarkson biography, Gibson's maternal grandmother may have been raped by the infamous "Black and Tans" soldiers during the Anglo-Irish War. This might explain Gibson's Anglophobia.

As for his wife saying he was never violent or abusive in their marriage, I heard several rumours during their marriage that he was and constantly womanising. I think she has chosen to deny it for the sake of their many children, and a large chunk of his cash, which she IMO is very entitled to. Getting divorced from him was probably the best thing she could have done.

I also think he has gone deeper into a downward spiral that has caused psychological problems. I think he has always been homophobic and racist but held it in. The ramblings of hatred of the English were a start but I think once he'd done Passion of the Christ and totally immersed himself into this fundamentalist Catholic thing, he really started going loony.

I do think his recent problems have brought out a prejudiced
side to him that, as you say, he previously "held in". Obviously in Hollywood it can finish your career if you
make prejudiced statements about ethnic minorities, but
there's also the fact Gibson seems to have been on friendly
terms with people belonging to groups he has expressed a
dislike for in private (such as Danny Glover and Jodie Foster).

[broadshoulder]

Originally Posted by katmobile

Possibly because it was a Spainish interview it slipped under the wire.

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Well, it was covered extensively by the gay press....but not even featured by Fleet Street.

Draw your own conclusions.

[Residents Fan]

Originally Posted by broadshoulder

Well, it was covered extensively by the gay press....but not even featured by Fleet Street.

Draw your own conclusions.

Sounds odd. Surely, the "Guardian" or the
"New Statesman" at least, would have raised the issue of a big Hollywood star expressing hatred towards people based
on their sexual orientation.

[SHAFT]

Oh dear.

"Joe Eszterhas Scripting Tale of Legendary Jewish Hero for Mel Gibson, Who May Direct"

http://www.slashfilm.com/mel-gibson-...ntent=FaceBook

[The Terminator]

Originally Posted by SHAFT

Have you seen his latest movie 'The Beaver'? His career is finished. Even the cast and crew of The Hangover II refused to work with him when he was cast in a cameo. He's a homophobic, racist, homophobic, misogynistic arse and I'm glad to see the back of him.

Are you kidding? If it hadn't been for his personal issues being publicized so much that film would have been far bigger and his performance lauded. Love him or hate him, Mel will be back on top one day. It greatly amuses me that people are so naive as to believe he's "finished".

[Residents Fan]

Originally Posted by SHAFT

Oh dear.

"Joe Eszterhas Scripting Tale of Legendary Jewish Hero for Mel Gibson, Who May Direct"

http://www.slashfilm.com/mel-gibson-...ntent=FaceBook

"Next week: Michael Richards picked to direct
"The Frederick Douglass Story".

[Prince Monalulu]

Originally Posted by The Terminator

Are you kidding? If it hadn't been for his personal issues being publicized so much that film would have been far bigger and his performance lauded. Love him or hate him, Mel will be back on top one day. It greatly amuses me that people are so naive as to believe he's "finished".

IIRC the reviews weren't good for Beaver.
Kinda on this tip, doesn't Sean Penn have a bit of a problem with Gay people, but played Harvey Milk, pretty sure he got awards for that part too.

[The Terminator]

Originally Posted by Prince Monalulu

IIRC the reviews weren't good for Beaver.
Kinda on this tip, doesn't Sean Penn have a bit of a problem with Gay people, but played Harvey Milk, pretty sure he got awards for that part too.

Actually there were many reviewers claiming it just might be the best performance of his career. Unfortunately for everyone else involved, Mel's "breakdown" assured it wouldn't be allowed to be too successful.