Do we really want unhappy Kat and Alfie?

Zack06 · 04-09-2011, 18:16

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Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

why did Kat punch Alfie when he said he bought the Vic? You'd think after all the history of violence with Little Mo she wouldn't be punching him the face. ahhhhh, I can't stand her and she has a SL soon so more screentime. Joy

And the worst thing is, all the episodes have focused on these two...Alfie has been in nearly all the episodes this year...

And because of that screentime for storylines involving way better characters like the Masoods and The Brannings have been cut down to make way for Kat and Alfie and their eternal misery...

Their return has been a disaster imo, and they should never have bothered bringing them back. The characters are ruined forever now.

ICON111 · 04-09-2011, 18:17

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Bryan Kirkwood all in all has been a nightmare for EastEnders. The day he leaves I am going to run down my street naked to celebrate.

LMAO!

Kirkwood is the worst EP EE has ever had.

thejoyof_pat · 04-09-2011, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Zack06

And the worst thing is, all the episodes have focused on these two...Alfie has been in nearly all the episodes this year...

And because of that screentime for storylines involving way better characters like the Masoods and The Brannings have been cut down to make way for Kat and Alfie and their eternal misery...

Their return has been a disaster imo, and they should never have bothered bringing them back. The characters are ruined forever now.

I know, it annoying because I want to see those other families and find their stories a lot more interesting plus, Shane Richie can't act (there I said it) and Jessie Wallace can't move her forehead which is emotionally distressing to watch. It's times like that where the BBC should subtitle certain characters feelings.
They need the axe.

JamieEastEnder · 04-09-2011, 18:19

The sad thing is, because of their status they will never be axed. Its clear they have no plan for them at all. It makes me wonder why they even bothered bringing them back.

I think the only way BK could save this from getting any worse is to move Kat & Alfie out of the Vic pronto and give the place a new owner. Though I can't see Shane 'Mr EastEnders'

being too happy with that as he said he quit in 2005 due to them putting Chrissie in the Vic....

The Mad Joker · 04-09-2011, 18:20

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Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

I know, it annoying because I want to see those other families and find their stories a lot more interesting plus, Shane Richie can't act (there I said it) and Jessie Wallace can't move her forehead which is emotionally distressing to watch. It's times like that where the BBC should subtitle certain characters feelings.
They need the axe.

woooooow i love new moons

and old moons

AM32 · 04-09-2011, 18:21

I want them to be together and I don't want them unhappy.

ICON111 · 04-09-2011, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Zack06

And the worst thing is, all the episodes have focused on these two...Alfie has been in nearly all the episodes this year...

And because of that screentime for storylines involving way better characters like the Masoods and The Brannings have been cut down to make way for Kat and Alfie and their eternal misery...

Their return has been a disaster imo, and they should never have bothered bringing them back. The characters are ruined forever now.

I agree. I think if they leave they won't be missed or as iconic opposed to their last stint.

thejoyof_pat · 04-09-2011, 18:22

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Originally Posted by JamieEastEnder

The sad thing is, because of their status they will never be axed. Its clear they have no plan for them at all. It makes me wonder why they even bothered bringing them back.

I think the only way BK could save this from getting any worse is to move Kat & Alfie out of the Vic pronto and give the place a new owner. Though I can't see Shane 'Mr EastEnders'

being too happy with that as he said he quit in 2005 due to them putting Chrissie in the Vic....

wow really!? If that true I will add that to my list of reasons why SR is a douche. That's also so true, they will never be axed. I could see BK axing the Masoods before he lets go of his precious Kat & Alfie.

JamieEastEnder · 04-09-2011, 18:23

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Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

wow really!? If that true I will add that to my list of reasons why SR is a douche.

Yeah he said in an interview after he left that he was deeply hurt when they moved the Moon's out of the Vic to make way for Chrissie and that he felt it left Alfie with no where to go.

I'm sure it'll show up in a Google search if you look hard enough. Should be 2006 time I'd imagine.

Breadstix · 04-09-2011, 18:24

And to think they really intended the babyswap storyline to go on for years. Is what we have now any better?

thejoyof_pat · 04-09-2011, 18:27

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Originally Posted by JamieEastEnder

Yeah he said in an interview after he left that he was deeply hurt when they moved the Moon's out of the Vic to make way for Chrissie and that he felt it left Alfie with no where to go.

I'm sure it'll show up in a Google search if you look hard enough. Should be 2006 time I'd imagine.

deeply hurt? He does know he isn't Alfie Moon, right? What a complete tool.

JamieEastEnder · 04-09-2011, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Breadstix

And to think they really intended the babyswap storyline to go on for years. Is what we have now any better?

I don't believe that at all. BK has since said he knew Sam would be leaving when he first took over so if he knew Sam was going to be gone in 12 months how could the storyline continue without the main character being part of it?

Alot of spin went on following the baby swap outrage and if you look hard enough at all the statements etc you'll see there are cracks all over it.

EastEndFan05 · 04-09-2011, 18:27

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Originally Posted by JamieEastEnder

The sad thing is, because of their status they will never be axed. Its clear they have no plan for them at all. It makes me wonder why they even bothered bringing them back.

I think the only way BK could save this from getting any worse is to move Kat & Alfie out of the Vic pronto and give the place a new owner. Though I can't see Shane 'Mr EastEnders'

being too happy with that as he said he quit in 2005 due to them putting Chrissie in the Vic....

That's true. Here's the article he said it in.

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebri...-of-the-vic/1/

I agree they probably won't move Alfie out of The Vic, mores the pity

Orangemaid · 04-09-2011, 18:28

they both have faces like slapped arses

bolam2011 · 04-09-2011, 18:29

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Originally Posted by JamieEastEnder

I don't believe that at all. BK has since said he knew Sam would be leaving when he first took over so if he knew Sam was going to be gone in 12 months how could the storyline continue without the main character being part of it?

Alot of spin went on following the baby swap outrage and if you look hard enough at all the statements etc you'll see there are cracks all over it.

Exactly. I have been saying this for months and months. Some crazy shit went down there.

thejoyof_pat · 04-09-2011, 18:32

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Originally Posted by EastEndFan05

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebri...-of-the-vic/1/

Deserved to be at the Vic?

Why exactly? Your character can't be at the centre of it all the time.

but for reason he is. Bahhhhh!

Breadstix · 04-09-2011, 18:34

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Originally Posted by JamieEastEnder

I don't believe that at all. BK has since said he knew Sam would be leaving when he first took over so if he knew Sam was going to be gone in 12 months how could the storyline continue without the main character being part of it?

Alot of spin went on following the baby swap outrage and if you look hard enough at all the statements etc you'll see there are cracks all over it.

I'd love to care enough to look, but I trust you Jamie

Weird

Zack06 · 04-09-2011, 18:35

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Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

Deserved to be at the Vic?

Why exactly? Your character can't be at the centre of it all the time.

but for reason he is. Bahhhhh!

I know right!

I get the feeling that they put Kalfie back into The Vic because SR demanded it as part of his return...

It would have made far more sense for Tanya to buy The Vic with Greg and use it to bring in the other Cross family members.

SR is a totally overrated actor anyway. At times I feel like I'm watching Tracey Beaker when he has scenes with Shenice or any other kid, that annoying 'cheeky chap' thing he does annoys the hell out of me..

EastEndFan05 · 04-09-2011, 18:37

It says a lot about Richie's ego that he thinks Alfie ''deserves'' to be in The Vic. What's so special about Alfie that leads him to think that? It was much better when Chrissie and Den booted him out. It's a shame they can't do it again

thejoyof_pat · 04-09-2011, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Zack06

I know right!

I get the feeling that they put Kalfie back into The Vic because SR demanded it as part of his return...

It would have made far more sense for Tanya to buy The Vic with Greg and use it to bring in the other Cross family members.

SR is a totally overrated actor anyway. At times I feel like I'm watching Tracey Beaker when he has scenes with Shenice or any other kid, that annoying 'cheeky chap' thing he does annoys the hell out of me..

I would have said a firm no to that, why should he have such a big input into his character?so bacially he has locked the writers into a corner where Alfie can go as he has to stay in the Vic! To me that comes across as completely ungracious if he is making those demands. I also hate how he use to win awards, he can't act. Who the F--- was voting for him? Probably the president of his fan club.

Zack06 · 04-09-2011, 18:44

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Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

I would have said a firm no to that, why should he have such a big input into his character?so bacially he has locked the writers into a corner where Alfie can go as he has to stay in the Vic! To me that comes across as completely ungracious if he is making those demands. I also hate how he use to win awards, he can't act. Who the F--- was voting for him? Probably the president of his fan club.

He doesn't deserve to be in EastEnders full stop. It's funny how after he left, he was out of work for ages, then was doing really crappy dramas.

Then all of a sudden after being out of touch with EE for years, he thinks he knows what the fans want...the overall opinion surrounding their return has been mainly negative...

I hope they get axed/leave soon. I have a feeling JW may leave but Alfie will stay. There are enough Moons on the Square to justify him staying on with out Kat...*shudders*

EastEndFan05 · 04-09-2011, 18:46

I'd be willing to bet money Richie won't leave EE, or The Vic, any time soon.

thejoyof_pat · 04-09-2011, 18:48

I have heard loads of negativity around Kat and Alfie so I don't know why they are still there, that's taking their 'status' out it they should have been gone long before now, maybe the new EP will actually posses a backbone and do the right thing?

boddism · 04-09-2011, 19:05

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Originally Posted by Zack06

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...ticle_continue

According to Shane Richie, we want Kalfie to live in misery and despair...

I don't know about everyone else but I most certainly DON'T want unhappy Kat and Alfie. I'm sick of seeing her miserable face on TV in every episode, and I'm also sick of Alfie being selfish...

Bring back the 2005 Kalfie...The characters haven't been the same since...

Theres some truth in what he said.

A happy or content Kat & alfie would be boring to watch. Soaps require drama. But the writers have just piled misery upon misery on Kat & Alfie since they returned & they bring the viewers down with their relentless suffering. I cant imagine what would attract people to them if they didnt know them in their previous incarnation....

I dont think them being together is the problem per se, its the WRITING!

monalisa62003 · 04-09-2011, 19:05

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Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat

deeply hurt? He does know he isn't Alfie Moon, right? What a complete tool.

i doubt he was deeply hurt by that. he does say some stupid things in interviews.

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JamieEastEnder Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 236	The sad thing is, because of their status they will never be axed. Its clear they have no plan for them at all. It makes me wonder why they even bothered bringing them back. I think the only way BK could save this from getting any worse is to move Kat & Alfie out of the Vic pronto and give the place a new owner. Though I can't see Shane 'Mr EastEnders' being too happy with that as he said he quit in 2005 due to them putting Chrissie in the Vic....

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AM32 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Services: iPod Touch, Soon to (hopefully!) have a PlayStation 3, HP Laptop Posts: 4,860	I want them to be together and I don't want them unhappy.

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Breadstix Guest Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,000	And to think they really intended the babyswap storyline to go on for years. Is what we have now any better?

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Orangemaid Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 34,896	they both have faces like slapped arses

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EastEndFan05 Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Monologue Central Posts: 4,712	It says a lot about Richie's ego that he thinks Alfie ''deserves'' to be in The Vic. What's so special about Alfie that leads him to think that? It was much better when Chrissie and Den booted him out. It's a shame they can't do it again

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EastEndFan05 Inactive Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Monologue Central Posts: 4,712	I'd be willing to bet money Richie won't leave EE, or The Vic, any time soon.

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thejoyof_pat Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Thailand Services: Lack of knowledge about comedy. Masood Cheerleader: "Gimme a M..." Posts: 10,904	I have heard loads of negativity around Kat and Alfie so I don't know why they are still there, that's taking their 'status' out it they should have been gone long before now, maybe the new EP will actually posses a backbone and do the right thing?

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