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The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 204)
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Miamore
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by kfb:
“This is not the view of the whole thread. This is another big problem. That one or maybe a few people have a particular viewpoint and this is then applied to the whole JJJAT. Not just on this particular topic but on all topics. As some of us have said in the past: we can only take comfort from the fact that extreme John fans think we're all Josie lovers and extreme Josie fans think we're all John lovers, people who want them to be happy and are not longer interested in their lives are considered to be totally unappreciative of them totally and for all time, and people who want them to be together again are considered loopy. All these views are attributed to the thread as a whole depending on which corner you stand in. We are happy to accommodate all these views on this thread, including yours.

I think Babs was right too and what I tried to say this morning (but I hit a wrong key) was that what happened with John and Josie probably answers/ed/ met/ fed a need of some kind in all of us - otherwise we wouldn't be here still discussing it.”

Para 1: I recognise this which is I said the general reactions specifically. I think it’s fair to say at the majority of posters at that time were sensitive to the idea of potential new partners hence the reactions to Sherrie.
It’s not a case me of making assumptions on the behaviour of the thread as a whole but simply disagreeing with the accusation of double standards made yesterday which a number of people agreed with, I didn’t get it.

Para 2: I completely agree with.
bblover
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by k182:
“Bib

What does j/k mean ”

It means Joking
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Miamore:
“Para 1: I recognise this which is I said the general reactions specifically. I think it’s fair to say at the majority of posters at that time were sensitive to the idea of potential new partners hence the reactions to Sherrie.
It’s not a case me of making assumptions on the behaviour of the thread as a whole but simply disagreeing with the accusation of double standards made yesterday which a number of people agreed with, I didn’t get it.

Para 2: I completely agree with.”

I think that the accusation of double-standards springs from various rather heated discussions on this thread, even recently, due to reactions of some posters to discussions that have occurred regarding Sherrie Cobley. Even last week (was it) there was a very heated discussion, resulting in suggestions of polls about whether her name should ever be mentioned, posts about whether there should be any mention or even acknowledgement of new partners that John or Josie may acquire in the future, and other various discussions. It was suggested that no partner talk be indulged in on the thread.

I don't think it was as a reaction to this particular situation - the suggestion that Josie has a boyfriend - or at least I don't think it was merely to this, although I obviously can't speak for Nat, and this is just what I felt about the post.

I guess we really don't know what reaction will be if further news comes about the boyfriend situation, and it may be that insinuations that he is a prostitute (a word that was used in a sentence in connection to STC), making slurs about his character - although unknown - and other remarks may come about as a result of this person, and then the whole argument will be repeated with respect to this man. It's too early to tell but obviously that would redress the double-standards accusation
k182
07-09-2011
Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Oi teethy nice nashers who's the 14 year presenting twitter news these days lol @Sianwelby yfrog.com/nyj6ljj
2 minutes ago
http://yfrog.com/nyj6ljj

Sianwelby Sian Welby
@Josiestweet who's that orange netball sat next to Casper the toothy ghost?? yfrog.com/h3tdssadj
1 minute ago
http://yfrog.com/h3tdssadj

Sianwelby Sian Welby
@
@Josiestweet alright gibbon pipe down! #clownaroundwednesdays
59 seconds ago


this pair are have fun does josie have a sister her age they do look alike dont they
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by k182:
“Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Oi teethy nice nashers who's the 14 year presenting twitter news these days lol @Sianwelby yfrog.com/nyj6ljj
2 minutes ago
http://yfrog.com/nyj6ljj

Sianwelby Sian Welby
@Josiestweet who's that orange netball sat next to Casper the toothy ghost?? yfrog.com/h3tdssadj
1 minute ago
http://yfrog.com/h3tdssadj

Sianwelby Sian Welby
@
@Josiestweet alright gibbon pipe down! #clownaroundwednesdays
59 seconds ago


this pair are have fun does josie have a sister her age they do look alike dont they ”

So is Josie not doing Twitter News then... or is it a BB bit she does at the moment, I should pay more attention lol
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by k182:
“Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Oi teethy nice nashers who's the 14 year presenting twitter news these days lol @Sianwelby yfrog.com/nyj6ljj
2 minutes ago
http://yfrog.com/nyj6ljj

Sianwelby Sian Welby
@Josiestweet who's that orange netball sat next to Casper the toothy ghost?? yfrog.com/h3tdssadj
1 minute ago
http://yfrog.com/h3tdssadj

Sianwelby Sian Welby
@
@Josiestweet alright gibbon pipe down! #clownaroundwednesdays
59 seconds ago


this pair are have fun does josie have a sister her age they do look alike dont they ”

Sorry to quote you again, yes they do look quite similar don't they, it's good they get on, makes working much more fun probably cause havoc at OKTV the pair of them
k182
07-09-2011
Sianwelby Sian Welby
@Josiestweet congrats on winning the biggest looser US. I dont know how you fit a these shows in!!
1 minute ago

did josie win something

Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Is someone pulling my leg? Am I in an American magazine??
28 seconds ago
Miamore
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I think that the accusation of double-standards springs from various rather heated discussions on this thread, even recently, due to reactions of some posters to discussions that have occurred regarding Sherrie Cobley. Even last week (was it) there was a very heated discussion, resulting in suggestions of polls about whether her name should ever be mentioned, posts about whether there should be any mention or even acknowledgement of new partners that John or Josie may acquire in the future, and other various discussions. It was suggested that no partner talk be indulged in on the thread.

I don't think it was as a reaction to this particular situation - the suggestion that Josie has a boyfriend - or at least I don't think it was merely to this, although I obviously can't speak for Nat, and this is just what I felt about the post.

I guess we really don't know what reaction will be if further news comes about the boyfriend situation, and it may be that insinuations that he is a prostitute (a word that was used in a sentence in connection to STC), making slurs about his character - although unknown - and other remarks may come about as a result of this person, and then the whole argument will be repeated with respect to this man. It's too early to tell but obviously that would redress the double-standards accusation ”


Double Standards & … (for the life of me I can’t remember the other word) are so over in the used JJJ bubble they’ve lost their true meaning. I get what you’re saying & to some extent I agree with . I don’t remember every individual’s reasons for Sherrie putting their back up so to speak but I do share Miljo’s (?) sentiments regarding the circumstances. Personally I can’t look at it without also looking at the timelines & that’s the bit that leaves looking at John in a way I never imagined I would & so I prefer to avoid the whole thing (including Sherrie, sorry).
The situation & circumstances with Josie is different & people expecting or demanding the same reactions I find strange, but as I’ve said I also see where you’re coming from.

However much speculations may lead the thread into trouble on occasion, it is the 1 of the top things it thrives on & I’m assuming it will go into overdrive if any other titbits are found/ released on the new guy, followed by accusations & slurs from other side… and then full on twitter war… & then peace …. & then a new revelation, followed by……..
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Miamore:
“Double Standards & … (for the life of me I can’t remember the other word) are so over in the used JJJ bubble they’ve lost their true meaning. I get what you’re saying & to some extent I agree with . I don’t remember every individual’s reasons for Sherrie putting their back up so to speak but I do share Miljo’s (?) sentiments regarding the circumstances. Personally I can’t look at it without also looking at the timelines & that’s the bit that leaves looking at John in a way I never imagined I would & so I prefer to avoid the whole thing (including Sherrie, sorry).
The situation & circumstances with Josie is different & people expecting or demanding the same reactions I find strange, but as I’ve said I also see where you’re coming from.

However much speculations may lead the thread into trouble on occasion, it is the 1 of the top things it thrives on & I’m assuming it will go into overdrive if any other titbits are found/ released on the new guy, followed by accusations & slurs from other side… and then full on twitter war… & then peace …. & then a new revelation, followed by…….. ”

Haha yes absolutely the thread does thrive on it

Sad about the underlined, although sadly true too.
muggins14
07-09-2011
Did we ever hear from Blackhollywood again, she sort of disappeared without a wave
PICKLES60
07-09-2011
I have just read a truly nasty post on another thread so I am going to make tea and ponder why people carry all this dislike inside I don't think I have disliked someone that much in real life never mind someone I have never met gonna give my boys a cuddle x
bblover
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Miamore:
“. Personally I can’t look at it without also looking at the timelines & that’s the bit that leaves looking at John in a way I never imagined ……..”

You're not the only one,i wonder if rebound relationships aren't that common in the UK?
MagStar10
07-09-2011
My daily dilemma, as in what to make for dinner is sorted, going to Nando's BBL. maggi x .
kfb
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I hate to say it, and hindsight is a wonderful thing NOT, but I would say looking back that the reason I got married was exactly this, thinking it would change things or make things better, and it's possible that subconsciously we also had Laura for this reason.

I wouldn't consciously have decided to have a child as a patch-up to my marriage, but I do think that beneath it all that was why, now that I look back ”

You wouldn't be the first or the last - and for some people it works, for some it doesn't. That applies to everything in life
And look at what a lovely daughter you've got
TX_Babs
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Wow,how did he manage to win somethingThink he'll be taking Jordan to F2,but that's not gonna be a smart move,so he might take Porshe instead.

I want Rachel to win,but that's looking impossible”

For now the only thing that matters is who wins the Veto.

Not impossible for Rachel, but she has the hardest road....again she needs to win the veto
JJJ_finland
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I think that the accusation of double-standards springs from various rather heated discussions on this thread, even recently, due to reactions of some posters to discussions that have occurred regarding Sherrie Cobley. Even last week (was it) there was a very heated discussion, resulting in suggestions of polls about whether her name should ever be mentioned, posts about whether there should be any mention or even acknowledgement of new partners that John or Josie may acquire in the future, and other various discussions. It was suggested that no partner talk be indulged in on the thread.

I don't think it was as a reaction to this particular situation - the suggestion that Josie has a boyfriend - or at least I don't think it was merely to this, although I obviously can't speak for Nat, and this is just what I felt about the post.

I guess we really don't know what reaction will be if further news comes about the boyfriend situation, and it may be that insinuations that he is a prostitute (a word that was used in a sentence in connection to STC), making slurs about his character - although unknown - and other remarks may come about as a result of this person, and then the whole argument will be repeated with respect to this man. It's too early to tell but obviously that would redress the double-standards accusation ”

BIB
Hey, I said that as a joke

I understand that this is an appreciation thread to Josie and John James. And I have no need or interest to start appreciating John James and Sherrie or Josie and new guy, whatever his name is....But I do feel that it's right to reffer to them if I'm talking about their lives, if in fact these new bf's or gf's are part of their new lives.

I think a lot of talk around Sherrie has been because we don't really know if she even is John's girlfriend at all. So we've been analysing John's actions cause to many the news back in May came as a bit of a shock or a suprise cause it was just so soon after JJJ split. So the discussion has been "what is going on" kinda of thing.

FAAAAAAAAAAR from any appreciation of the two as a couple. I will never ever start posting pics about their new partners and say "aaaaw, oooh isn't new gf lovely, isn't new bf a hunk" NO WAY!! Or start making photos or videos about them with their new partners. That's not what this thread is about and I'm not interested on their new partners in that way.

But that doesn't meant that I will let others dictate whether or not I can even mention them if the discussion starts to go that way

It is what it is. If they have new partners all I can wish is that their happy, but naming them don't mean I'm appreciating the new couples.
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by PICKLES60:
“I have just read a truly nasty post on another thread so I am going to make tea and ponder why people carry all this dislike inside I don't think I have disliked someone that much in real life never mind someone I have never met gonna give my boys a cuddle x”

A big juicy cuddle sounds like a good antidote Don't let it get to you Pickles Can I send you a cyber hug too? ((((hug)))) ... not known for my physical affection, lol, but that's the second hug I've given today... must be something in the water
kfb
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Miamore:
“Para 1: I recognise this which is I said the general reactions specifically. I think it’s fair to say at the majority of posters at that time were sensitive to the idea of potential new partners hence the reactions to Sherrie.
It’s not a case me of making assumptions on the behaviour of the thread as a whole but simply disagreeing with the accusation of double standards made yesterday which a number of people agreed with, I didn’t get it.

Para 2: I completely agree with.”

I've agreed with the whole double standards argument on occasion. But for me the issue is that every topic should be open for discussion if anyone thinks it important enough to mention. But then they must accept that others - and sometimes the rest of the thread - may disagree with them. Nobody should feel they can't post. But I know a lot of people do feel that at times, for a whole load of reasons: like not wanting to upset the rest of the thread, or not liking everyone disagreeing with them, or feeling they're not being taken any notice of. That's the nature of the thread though.
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by bblover:
“You're not the only one,i wonder if rebound relationships aren't that common in the UK?”

I think they are pretty common all over the world, some realise they need to be alone for a while as that's what suits them best, some seem to dive head-long into the next relationship. It probably depends upon what kind of person they are and maybe what the want/need from a relationship, or at least from that next relationship
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by MagStar10:
“My daily dilemma, as in what to make for dinner is sorted, going to Nando's BBL. maggi x .”

What time do you want me
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by kfb:
“You wouldn't be the first or the last - and for some people it works, for some it doesn't. That applies to everything in life
And look at what a lovely daughter you've got ”

Yes indeed, there may be tiny moments, but I couldn't really every regret having Laura
muggins14
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by kfb:
“I've agreed with the whole double standards argument on occasion. But for me the issue is that every topic should be open for discussion if anyone thinks it important enough to mention. But then they must accept that others - and sometimes the rest of the thread - may disagree with them. Nobody should feel they can't post. But I know a lot of people do feel that at times, for a whole load of reasons: like not wanting to upset the rest of the thread, or not liking everyone disagreeing with them, or feeling they're not being taken any notice of. That's the nature of the thread though.”

I agree, of course I'm well aware that some think I argue for arguments' sake (when in fact I don't argue at all ) and I am also aware that many don't read my posts - or if they do they then ignore them - and that's fine, at least I've said how I think and hopefully not offended anybody, although as I've always said I welcome everybody's views and have sometimes changed my mind about things - other peoples' opinions can make you see things you might miss
kfb
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Miamore:
“Double Standards & … (for the life of me I can’t remember the other word) are so over in the used JJJ bubble they’ve lost their true meaning. I get what you’re saying & to some extent I agree with . I don’t remember every individual’s reasons for Sherrie putting their back up so to speak but I do share Miljo’s (?) sentiments regarding the circumstances. Personally I can’t look at it without also looking at the timelines & that’s the bit that leaves looking at John in a way I never imagined I would & so I prefer to avoid the whole thing (including Sherrie, sorry).
The situation & circumstances with Josie is different & people expecting or demanding the same reactions I find strange, but as I’ve said I also see where you’re coming from.

However much speculations may lead the thread into trouble on occasion, it is the 1 of the top things it thrives on & I’m assuming it will go into overdrive if any other titbits are found/ released on the new guy, followed by accusations & slurs from other side… and then full on twitter war… & then peace …. & then a new revelation, followed by……..”

Do we have a twitter war on this thread? We certainly disagree and tempers are raised occasionally but we don't usually send hate messages to each other because of it. And it usually fizzles out in a very short time.
muggins14
07-09-2011
eek, will this be 5 in a row?
PICKLES60
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“A big juicy cuddle sounds like a good antidote Don't let it get to you Pickles Can I send you a cyber hug too? ((((hug)))) ... not known for my physical affection, lol, but that's the second hug I've given today... must be something in the water ”

Aww thanks must say my boys are lovely cuddlers Love a nice cuddle
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