I agree.

I also don't get why everyone and their mother hates My Heart Will Go On so much. Yes, it's a bit cheesy (no worse than your average ballad, though) and it was played to death but I still think it was and is a beautiful song that nobody else can sing properly apart from Celine.

I wish I'd gone to see her when she was at the o2 some time back. It looks like she puts on a really good live show.

Because I'm entitled to form my own opinion of him and aren't governed by the decisions of others?

I definately think Britney, she is slammed for lip synching, yet people forget she has always done that! She isnt as great as she once was performance wise but she still makes great pop music and sets trends, her blackout album launched the electro pop era and femme fatale has launched the dubstep pop era, and yet no one ever gives her any credit!

The saturdays also, they're five pretty girls with great personalities, great songs and great voices, they get slammed for being boring, generic etc, well they arent.

Leona is another one, she is massively talented, she is the closest we have to mariah etc, and yet she gets slammed so much from her own country! Just because she doesnt wear meat dresses or perform lesbian acts on stage it doesnt make her boring, it makes her normal and down to earth!

I often misunderstand sarcasm so I'm sorry...

I agree with Britney too. I think she lost some of herself during her breakdown, but I still think she's doing pretty good. Even though I think she should stop with all these autotuned & "I Wanna Go" kinds of songs, I do like them, but I think she could do much better, and a lot of people say she can't sing but there are a few vids on youtube which shows she can, it's just all hidden under all the autotune and crap. And I still can't believe the way people treated her back when she was down, I thought that was horrible. She's only human after all.

I also think MJ got a lot of unfair criticism before he died & still does. The media tried to make him look like some kind of crazy monster when infact he was really just a nice guy. I've never seen anybody who actually knew him say a bad word about him. And people overlooked a lot of his later music. He obviously wasn't going to create another Thriller - he had evolved in his music, yet people always compared everything he did to it. Songs like Earth Song, Stranger In Moscow, Whatever Happens & We've Had Enough are actually really great.

Mariah Carey! In brief: she's lost her voice, she is a diva, she desses like a slut, her music is crap, she should go back to her 90's style, she has too many rappers in her songs, she screams etc

Definitely Madonna. I've read so many nasty things about her and she's not even that offensive. I'm often left totally bewildered by some of the things people say about her. There are worse celebs out there. Complete non entities who are famous for literally nothing don't have the criticism she faces. Madonna's unfairly judged and people don't even know her. I laughed at one comment left on an article at the Daily Mail site - apparently, she's "vacuous". And how is that? because of the fame she's achieved? at least she worked for what she has and hasn't got where she has by being on Big Brother or some other reality tv show. I do think quite alot of the nastiness aimed at her is complete jealousy. She looks good for someone of her age and she's successful. If some of those morons who criticise her had half of her money, don't tell me they wouldn't use it to look better. She seems like a person who cares about the world aswell, so I don't understand why she's so reviled. There's plenty of people celebwise who I'd choose to dislike out there but I don't use my energy up saying crap about them. So those people constantly criticising her are the ones who need to get a life.

And that's the problem, half the culture these days is bred on a diet of reality tv shows that they've forgotten or don't even know what a genuine star is.

I agree. I think his later music got a lot of unfair bashing. I even like You Rock My World and don't think Invincible is that bad an album considering thaht MJ was not exactly young when he did it. He was never going to have Thriller-type success forever. It would be like expecting Madonna to be able to replicate her Like A Prayer/Blonde Ambition days even though she's in her 50s now and likes to move on and experiment with each album (on that note, I don't think Hard Candy is nearly as bad as everyone else seems to think - although it did take seeing her perform those songs live for me to "click" with it).

I think a lot of people have such unrealistic expectations when it comes to the progression of music artists.

Leona Lewis. Probably one of the nicest girls in the music industry but continuously gets a pile of vile abuse thrown at her. Fair enough if her music/voice isn't your thing, but she is often literally bullied for either being too boring, or when she tries something bold she gets shot down with people saying "stick to the ballads." So she can't win either way. We should all be proud that a sweet British girl with great talent has such a great international standing.

I hate how people say she's boring and imply she'd be more likeable if she was always falling out of cabs and nightclubs like everyone else.

The appeal of Leona, to me, is because she is not like that. It's a refreshing change to have someone who behaves with some self-respect in the public eye. My main criticism of her is she has not progressed well as an artist...but how much of that is down to her or Syco is hard to tell. I do hope one day she will go to another label and they will manage her better. She's being wasted in terms of what kind of artist she could be at the moment.

SO true, I never understand some of the criticism people make up about her! I mean she is a music legend and such an iconic figure.

She is one of those people spoken about as being Born A Star! Agreed, and also reality TV has corrupted culture today but i think it is waining a lot tbh.

But thats also why is think of her so highly, she has detractors and whatever but she holds her own, has millions of fans and has made such an impact across three decades and into her fourth and no signs of stopping.

Plus she has masterpiece albums, incredible videos, tours. Excellent parent, looks stunning, and has done so much for social rights, human rights and the planet and let her keep Kicking that ass!

Thats what i love about M she experiments, tries new genres and covers loads of ground each release. and seconded with Hard Candy, after expectations raised for COnfessions HC was not taken the way it should. I think it is a fantastic album actually

And also true about Thriller he always wanted to make ANOTHER Thriller but would never achieve it. Which is what makes it frustrating about MJ really.

As it's Freddie Mercury's 65th birthday, I'm going to have to say Queen on this. The bile that is thrown their way, even now when Mercury himself has been dead 20 years, is almost unrivalled.

Like all acts, some love it, some hate it, but rarely have I seen the latter react so vociferously to their hatred. Some of the comments I've heard thrown at Mercury, especially from those who consider themselves "intellectual" are absolutely terrible.

In fact, go and see if The Guardian have written an article about Mercury today, I guarantee there will be awful comments in that too, Guardian readers seem to be the worst when it comes to Queen. I'm not sure what it is about Queen that has offended people quite so much.

I know punk music was seen as the antithesis of Queen, but even then I don't see what it is that was so offensive about the band and their bombast. I wonder if it's a mixture of offense that they dared to write tongue-in-cheek music, that they were never considered "cool", that they refused to disclose their political preferences, and of course, good old-fashioned homophobia/racism.

Leona and Christina.

I think the criticism of both of them is somewhat warranted, I just think its the same criticism can be levelled at many of their peers, but isn't.

I'll never understand why Leona is boring and yet Rihanna, Kesha, Pixie Lott, etc. aren't. I also don't understand the fixation with her 'just standing there'. Hello, she sings ballads. She's not going to booty pop to Bleeding Love. Katy Perry, Rihanna and Kesha don't dance either and they sing dance music ffs.

Granted, Christina is somewhat of a bitch but if she said/did half of the things that some of her contemporaries say about their fellow musicians (I'm looking at you P!nk, Avril etc.) her career would literally be over. People also always get on her dick for being too 'sexy' when I don't think she is any worse than any of her peers. She got the most flak for the Lady Marmalade video but was actually the most covered up (not including Missy).

Also agree with those that put Mariah and Madonna.

I don't think the criticism levelled at Chris Brown is unfair, I just think all other celebs (male and female) who have committed domestic violence should be treated with the same scorn as he is. And they aren't. However, I've made this post before in numerous other threads and won't write it out again

Status Quo get unfair criticism

Recent criticism is totally justified imo, however, when they were at their most popular (1970-76) and were dismissed as just 'one chord' protaganists, then definately not justified.

I agree. I admire Leona as a person. She follows a healthy lifestyle and shows concern for others and that's rather a novelty these days for a star of her calibre. I don't think she sets herself up as a role model or anything like that but imo she's a good one. Her musical direction has been a bit hit and miss but with Simon Cowell involved I suspect it's likely a case of too many cooks in the kitchen. I get the impression she is taking more control now.

Madonna but she asked for it half the time ..she has been at war with critics through her entire career and will be forever i guess untill she is dead and then the media will kiss her arse like they did with michael jackson

she can take it and hits back as she did with human nature video and song which i thought was witty and hilarious

the most disturbing critism for madonna was when she adopted children ...she was and is trying to give somebody a better life

i think she should have been praised but she was battered

i think this hurt her feelings - why would somebody adopt a child for attention ?

whatever happens is a good song - i guess criticism is the price of fame ..when a star reaches a certain height for eg michael and madonna and britney and many others ..the media will try and break them down , gaga is next

Britney, always gets criticised by the UK media and some of the General public.. they use the whole 'shes mad, she mimes' :sleep: Her miming has never bothered me as a fan as she is an Entertainer and a great artist britney has said this herself

Her albums have always been great her standouts are In The Zone, Blackout and Femme Fatale.

Gaga & Xtina.

Not sure what you've been reading, but I have never seen, certainly in the last 20 years, anything but admiration for the band. It would have been Freddie's 65th Birthday today, a bit tenous, but everywhere radio stations are falling over themselves to play Queen songs. They are rock 'royalty' here in Britain. IIs this just a dig at the Guardian?? or are you still upset over the NME's 'Is This Man A Prat' headline over 30 years ago?

In fact, however much I love them, even I think they have grown into a myth created when Freddie died, if anything I think they are overly praised by everyone these days.

Definitely the 'new' incarnation of Guns N' Roses. What annoys me most is how people will say "Axl is always late, or Axl won't turn up" etc. GNR played over 50 shows on their last tour, and the only ones were problems occured were Dublin and Reading. I saw them in Belfast and they were only half an hour late, compared to other bands I've seen live, like Metallica and Gogol Bordello, that was no time at all.

I didn't realise she got critized, I'm not a massive fan, but I do think she is very talented and has some really good songs.

I find a lot of pop singers, especially in groups get unfair critism because people presume they'll be rubbish rather than take the time to actually listen to them.

Sugababes 4.0 will be my contribution to this thread. I fully understand why people have so much beef with them and I'd feel the same had I been a fan of previous line ups or if my fave groups did that. However, I feel sorry for them as they could release the best song in the world and still get so much negativity.

What annoys me about the 'new' G'n'R is that it's basically a jumped up idiot WAY past his prime with some random dudes in the back rather than an actual rock band. Chinese Democracy was UNBELIEVABLY shit. Axl should just give it up, because it's embarrassing and he's only making himself look like more of a fool every year.:sleep: