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Old 15-09-2016, 23:05
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Skepta eh?


Nope, me neither...
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Old 15-09-2016, 23:15
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BBC 1Xtra 'weh ah happenin'

Used this to translate https://jamaicanize.com

Yes, perhaps this Skepka bloke is of Nigerian origin but assume he uses the 'so called' Jamaican Patois London 'street' creole / pidgin english in his rapping. Oh! forgot grime isn't rap is it

PS How come Drake has signed to this 'small' label, Better Know Boy, co-owned by Skepka.Drake 'was' signed to Universal.The Konnichiwa album also has Pharrel Williams as one of the co-writers on one of the songs, oh! another one signed to Universal.How come this album's is only licenced to Better Know Boy when Skepka signed to 'All Around the World' previously, another Universal Label.
Not sure whether this album got the Mercury award because he is a hhhmmmm an 'independent' artist, but 'as it seems' he is a Universal artist - why not be honest about that.
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Old 15-09-2016, 23:24
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Found this little story about Skepta as well .You couldn't make it up
Bloody Major labels

http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/univer...-it-to-eminem/
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Old 15-09-2016, 23:28
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Well I just kinda had a feeling Skepta would win it. Radio 1 have been ramming him down peoples throats for ages now and their terribly posh current 40 something controller says he's a massive fan of Grime and down wid them kidz in da street. Plus all the music industry Guardian reading luvie typeees just love Grime at the mo cause Kanye West said he rates it and boy, if Kanye likes it you better like it too.

Mild pish taking aside I am actually genuinely glad Skepta won and "SHUT DOWN!" The Mercury music prize as its been a pretentious pile of toss for too long and him winning it has kind of sparked things up.

Excellent. Unfortunately the down side is by winning they have condemned Skepta to be the new Roni Size and destroying his street cred, but hey ho...
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Old 15-09-2016, 23:38
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Well I just kinda had a feeling Skepta would win it. Radio 1 have been ramming him down peoples throats for ages now and their terribly posh current 40 something controller says he's a massive fan of Grime and down wid them kidz in da street. Plus all the music industry Guardian reading luvie typeees just love Grime at the mo cause Kanye West said he rates it and boy, if Kanye likes it you better like it too.

Mild pish taking aside I am actually genuinely glad Skepta won and "SHUT DOWN!" The Mercury music prize as its been a pretentious pile of toss for too long and him winning it has kind of sparked things up.

Excellent. Unfortunately the down side is by winning they have condemned Skepta to be the new Roni Size and destroying his street cred, but hey ho...
At least the 1975 didn't win.

The wheels have come off sadly for them now - as proven by the public tonight and the public again with the 2nd series of Boy Meets Girl this year. The lead writer put Denise Welch at the front of the show for the 2nd series, thinking well since The 1975 are popular. she'll get the fanbase into the show because she's the frontman's mum and it'll do well.

Instead Boy Meets Girl ranked last of the 10pm shows on the main 5 channels, even beaten by Big Brother on C5. Even more humiliating for Denise was the C5 Aussie soaps and The Simpsons outrated it - and Stefan Dennis, Ray Meagher, Dan Castellenta and Julie Kavner haven't had the hype or publicity Denise and Tim Healy have enjoyed due to the success Matthew has had (and as if being humiliated by Julie Kavner and Stefan Dennis wasn't bad enough for Denise, EastEnders's new boss has axed her on-screen character Alison Slater's son, meaning no hope for her going back to that).
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Old 15-09-2016, 23:39
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Well I just kinda had a feeling Skepta would win it. Radio 1 have been ramming him down peoples throats for ages now and their terribly posh current 40 something controller says he's a massive fan of Grime and down wid them kidz in da street. Plus all the music industry Guardian reading luvie typeees just love Grime at the mo cause Kanye West said he rates it and boy, if Kanye likes it you better like it too.

Mild pish taking aside I am actually genuinely glad Skepta won and "SHUT DOWN!" The Mercury music prize as its been a pretentious pile of toss for too long and him winning it has kind of sparked things up.

Excellent. Unfortunately the down side is by winning they have condemned Skepta to be the new Roni Size and destroying his street cred, but hey ho...
It's all a bit fake street cred though when Skepta has moved to the 'Major' league
Not saying he may not have worked up from the street (whatever that is really) but if you sign with the 'Devil' ..........
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Old 15-09-2016, 23:40
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Found this little story about Skepta as well .You couldn't make it up
Bloody Major labels

http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/univer...-it-to-eminem/
That made me laugh how they took the song off Skepta and gave it to Eminem for a nice sum of money. So much propaganda around Skepta about how he's these hard done by street artist and you realise he really isn't. Its like the bloody X-Factor when they always give a sob story for each contestant so people vote for them. The majors really do control everything we hear now and strategically decide who gets what song, its globalisation gone mad.
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Old 16-09-2016, 06:54
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At least the 1975 didn't win.

The wheels have come off sadly for them now - as proven by the public tonight and the public again with the 2nd series of Boy Meets Girl this year. The lead writer put Denise Welch at the front of the show for the 2nd series, thinking well since The 1975 are popular. she'll get the fanbase into the show because she's the frontman's mum and it'll do well.

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I dont see how they had the best album of 2016 as voted by the public hardly the wheels coming off, and I wanted it to win but I knew it wouldnt as 6Music types dont like them. Them and Skepta were the only things that lifed up the show.
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Old 16-09-2016, 09:06
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Did Annie Lennox win it?
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Old 16-09-2016, 12:23
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Did Annie Lennox win it?

That's the Brit Awards your thinking of
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Old 16-09-2016, 12:49
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Congrats to Skepta
Not my type of music but that's irelevant. He's been around for years. This win may allow him an even bigger audience.
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Old 16-09-2016, 14:15
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It was a good shortlist this year and a great winner overall. For once a deserving winner that people should be pleased with, but that still isn't going to stop certain people complaining.
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Old 16-09-2016, 15:20
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It was a good shortlist this year and a great winner overall. For once a deserving winner that people should be pleased with, but that still isn't going to stop certain people complaining.
Why was it? I think it was the worst winner in the history of the competition. I don't see how Badly Drawn Boy, Elbow, PJ Harvey, Suede, The XX, Gomez, Portishead, Antony and the Johnsons and Benjamin Clementine were less deserving winners?
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Old 16-09-2016, 15:39
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The Mercury Awards generally prefer breaking an upcoming artist rather than rewarding a more popular band. I thought Bowie would win (and should have won) last night but just as surprising is Radiohead with 6 nominations and no wins.
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Old 16-09-2016, 15:53
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The 1975 totally robbed. Typical of the clueless UK media. Let's honour some rapper for PR purposes or let's honour people who are past their best. God, while they were at it could they not find a way to nominate a Rolling Stones or Beatles album? Afterall, there hasn't been any good music since those guys were at their prime.

The 1975 are happening NOW. Listen to their album and you will see how much hard work went in to it. Nevermind, not good enough to join legends such as M People and Roni Size on the Mercury winner list. Oh well, #1 album in America, Australia and the UK will have to suffice. Not to mention owning the stage at Reading. Which implies there are people in the world who are interested in exciting bands who are pushing music forwards not backwards.
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Old 16-09-2016, 16:32
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At least the 1975 didn't win.

The wheels have come off sadly for them now - as proven by the public tonight and the public again with the 2nd series of Boy Meets Girl this year. The lead writer put Denise Welch at the front of the show for the 2nd series, thinking well since The 1975 are popular. she'll get the fanbase into the show because she's the frontman's mum and it'll do well.

Instead Boy Meets Girl ranked last of the 10pm shows on the main 5 channels, even beaten by Big Brother on C5. Even more humiliating for Denise was the C5 Aussie soaps and The Simpsons outrated it - and Stefan Dennis, Ray Meagher, Dan Castellenta and Julie Kavner haven't had the hype or publicity Denise and Tim Healy have enjoyed due to the success Matthew has had (and as if being humiliated by Julie Kavner and Stefan Dennis wasn't bad enough for Denise, EastEnders's new boss has axed her on-screen character Alison Slater's son, meaning no hope for her going back to that).
WTF has any of this got to do with the MMP? This is just a bizzare personal attack on the Healy family, or Denise Welch specifically.
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Old 16-09-2016, 16:35
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The 1975 totally robbed. Typical of the clueless UK media. Let's honour some rapper for PR purposes or let's honour people who are past their best. God, while they were at it could they not find a way to nominate a Rolling Stones or Beatles album? Afterall, there hasn't been any good music since those guys were at their prime.

The 1975 are happening NOW. Listen to their album and you will see how much hard work went in to it. Nevermind, not good enough to join legends such as M People and Roni Size on the Mercury winner list. Oh well, #1 album in America, Australia and the UK will have to suffice. Not to mention owning the stage at Reading. Which implies there are people in the world who are interested in exciting bands who are pushing music forwards not backwards.
Are you the 1975s mum?
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Old 16-09-2016, 18:40
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The Mercury Awards generally prefer breaking an upcoming artist rather than rewarding a more popular band. I thought Bowie would win (and should have won) last night but just as surprising is Radiohead with 6 nominations and no wins.
Doesn't that make sense though? If people hear about an artist winning the award they never listened to they will give that artist a chance and check them out and they can' get exposure they otherwise wouldn't, especially since most of the artists nominated don't make music suited to pop radio.

People like David Bowie and Radiohead no matter how brilliant they may be, don't need that kind of extra exposure since most people already know of them and they have a large audience.
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Old 16-09-2016, 19:00
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This might be the first winner I've never heard of, but it's hardly a subject that I lose sleep over.
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Old 16-09-2016, 20:01
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The problem with the Mercury Prize is that most years it's as if they're desperate to give the £25,000 award to an album that has been largely overlooked by bookmakers and most online poll predictors.

Step forward Skepta, and bring the whole grime genre with you.

Fact is, it was widely reported back in February about how the whole grime genre had been overlooked at The Brit Awards. But why should grime artists have been nominated? Did any of their biggest names in the genre produce anything of note in 2015?

Yes, but it wasn't Skepta who stole the show. It was Stormzy who took grime to a new level and made the top 10 with his track Shut Up. I detest the song (but then grime isn't exactly my favourite genre of music) BUT the fact is, Stormzy got a big following and his devoted followers made Shut Up a success. Something Skepta hasn't achieved.

Skepta's album got to #2, and?!!! Album sales are so crap right now that Leon Jackson could release an album and reach #8 selling 3,784 copies before his album vanishes back out of the charts never to be seen again. Albums that continue to sell are the real success stories, and I'm pretty sure that hasn't applied to Skepta's album when compared to Radiohead (not using Blackstar as the sad death of Bowie no doubt helped to boost his album sales).

To me, it seems like the Mercury Music Prize was only awarded to Skepta because of the blown out of proportion media frenzy and backlash from The Brit Awards. I refuse to believe his album was the best album in the shortlist especially when David Bowie's excellent Blackstar was in the running.

Jarvis Cocker said “We, as a jury, decided that if Bowie was looking down on the Hammersmith Apollo tonight, he would want the 2016 Hyundai Mercury Music Prize to go to Skepta.”

It's as if they were just using David Bowie's name in a desperate attempt to soften the blows in case Skepta's win went down the same u-bend as Speech Debelle and Klaxons.

Another year. Another anti climax.
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Old 16-09-2016, 20:40
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The problem with the Mercury Prize is that most years it's as if they're desperate to give the £25,000 award to an album that has been largely overlooked by bookmakers and most online poll predictors.

Step forward Skepta, and bring the whole grime genre with you.

Fact is, it was widely reported back in February about how the whole grime genre had been overlooked at The Brit Awards. But why should grime artists have been nominated? Did any of their biggest names in the genre produce anything of note in 2015?

Yes, but it wasn't Skepta who stole the show. It was Stormzy who took grime to a new level and made the top 10 with his track Shut Up. I detest the song (but then grime isn't exactly my favourite genre of music) BUT the fact is, Stormzy got a big following and his devoted followers made Shut Up a success. Something Skepta hasn't achieved.

Skepta's album got to #2, and?!!! Album sales are so crap right now that Leon Jackson could release an album and reach #8 selling 3,784 copies before his album vanishes back out of the charts never to be seen again. Albums that continue to sell are the real success stories, and I'm pretty sure that hasn't applied to Skepta's album when compared to Radiohead (not using Blackstar as the sad death of Bowie no doubt helped to boost his album sales).

To me, it seems like the Mercury Music Prize was only awarded to Skepta because of the blown out of proportion media frenzy and backlash from The Brit Awards. I refuse to believe his album was the best album in the shortlist especially when David Bowie's excellent Blackstar was in the running.

Jarvis Cocker said “We, as a jury, decided that if Bowie was looking down on the Hammersmith Apollo tonight, he would want the 2016 Hyundai Mercury Music Prize to go to Skepta.”

It's as if they were just using David Bowie's name in a desperate attempt to soften the blows in case Skepta's win went down the same u-bend as Speech Debelle and Klaxons.

Another year. Another anti climax.
That quote made me cringe so much... like any of these people actually know what Bowie would have wanted! Disgraceful way to use his name to justify a controversial choice. Mind you, I hate the concept of music "experts" telling us what music we should be listening to anyway.

I get the feeling some people are just utterly desperate to make grime a 'thing' and are using stuff like this to push it into the mainstream. Its clearly having some impact, but the amount of grime stuff in the top 40 suggests that for whatever reason 'da kidz' aren't buying or streaming it half as much as is being made out.

I'm surprised so many people expected David Bowie to win though, I thought it was pretty much a given that he was too famous to win. Same goes for Radiohead and arguably even The 1975.
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Old 16-09-2016, 20:44
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WTF has any of this got to do with the MMP? This is just a bizzare personal attack on the Healy family, or Denise Welch specifically.
That member has posted that same post nearly word for word on other threads over the past few months.
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Old 17-09-2016, 08:19
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I use the Mercury as a guide to what might be some of the best music of the year. Most years it is. There are some exceptions, I found The XX album very dull and boring but PJ Harvey's albums have genuinely been the best both times.

I think Skepta's album is full of interesting Grime influenced sounds and some very perceptive lyrics at times. It is very representative of a current strand of British culture and is deserving of this prize.

I prefer The 1975 album because it shows how good modern pop music can be at a time when pop music has got bogged down in mediocrity but that's where subjectivity comes into it.
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Old 17-09-2016, 11:34
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Old 18-09-2016, 00:07
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At least the 1975 didn't win.

The wheels have come off sadly for them now - as proven by the public tonight and the public again with the 2nd series of Boy Meets Girl this year. The lead writer put Denise Welch at the front of the show for the 2nd series, thinking well since The 1975 are popular. she'll get the fanbase into the show because she's the frontman's mum and it'll do well.

Instead Boy Meets Girl ranked last of the 10pm shows on the main 5 channels, even beaten by Big Brother on C5. Even more humiliating for Denise was the C5 Aussie soaps and The Simpsons outrated it - and Stefan Dennis, Ray Meagher, Dan Castellenta and Julie Kavner haven't had the hype or publicity Denise and Tim Healy have enjoyed due to the success Matthew has had (and as if being humiliated by Julie Kavner and Stefan Dennis wasn't bad enough for Denise, EastEnders's new boss has axed her on-screen character Alison Slater's son, meaning no hope for her going back to that).
So basically you're saying The 1975 are only big because of Denise Welch?

They have been a band since 2002. Their debut album went straight to number 1 with little publicity. Matt Healy never talks about his mother in interviews, he hasn't used her to promote himself in any way. It's just a coincidence he has a well known mum, is it his fault? Should he not be allowed to make music?

Also, do you think they got to #1 in America because of Denise bloody Welch? Yeah I'm sure the American music buying public give a rat's ass about some bird from Loose Women.
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