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Britney Spears Appreciation Thread (Part 4)
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jonnywozeya
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by MCA1992:
“Both of them are TUNES!

Britney looks gorgeous in the pictures from the Twister dance shoot. It's great that she's keeping up the dancing, if she still keeps active she shouldn't be so stiff doing the earlier choreography of the next era.”

She does look great on the photos. Hopefully the reason for staying in shape is for the X Factor. Sick of waiting for confirmation about that. Wish they would just hurry up and clarify.
Poison_Ivan
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by jonnywozeya:
“She does look great on the photos. Hopefully the reason for staying in shape is for the X Factor. Sick of waiting for confirmation about that. Wish they would just hurry up and clarify.”

I Know
Josh Pinder
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“I'm thinking about those collaborations too. I don't know how many songs each did with Britney, but their contribution would definitely change the sound of the album. Imagine how 'In The Zone' would sound without Bloodshy and Avant for example!! They only did 2 tracks IIRC, but they changed the entire vibe of the record!

I feel like 'FF' did re-introduce Britney in a way that 'Circus' failed to do. It showed that Britney can be current, take the trends and move them forward (i.e: dubstep breakdown) and it showed that she can still be a leader if she wants to. It's her first album to spawn 3 top 10 hits, so she's become a household name in the iTunes generation!

Still, Jive were about to call it a day, so they wanted to play it safe. I hope that RCA learned something from the now infamous Bionic massacre and won't be too controlling with Britney. They can advise her, they can even choose the singles if they want to, but when it comes to the studio sessions, no interventions please! ”

Yeah i know i would have loved to have heard what Britney and Rusko would have been like too!

But yeah Femme Fatale subtely i think reintroduced her in the American music buying market at least...heck it had platinum shipments there in minimal effort and it took Beyonce to do massive summer concert coverage tbh to get her there with 4 which proves Britneys name stateside is something much more of meaning than globally unfortunately.

But i reckon if her passion for the music is still there then Jive should foecking let her get on with it and go crazy and let loose...she is in the 30s now...we will and should experience a new Britney i feel....i mean i love the way Britney explored her identity musically on In The Zone as she entered her 20s and her mid 20s with Blackout with that livving in the spotlight and its negatives. Her next record i hope will be absolutely relentless!

I mean while i like Kylie and Janet...they very much have gotten stuck in there "commercial popstar" rut, with safey safey choices musically etc... nothing truly exciting or refreshing or new....just...what they can do tbh.

But with Britney i thnk we all know what she can still be capable of...but her perspectives are so different right now. But for Britney to release an album of real darker, intenser stuff like a spiritual cleansing in a way...that would really earn her worldwide respect i feel again.
O.Michel
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Yeah i know i would have loved to have heard what Britney and Rusko would have been like too!

But yeah Femme Fatale subtely i think reintroduced her in the American music buying market at least...heck it had platinum shipments there in minimal effort and it took Beyonce to do massive summer concert coverage tbh to get her there with 4 which proves Britneys name stateside is something much more of meaning than globally unfortunately.

But i reckon if her passion for the music is still there then Jive should foecking let her get on with it and go crazy and let loose...she is in the 30s now...we will and should experience a new Britney i feel....i mean i love the way Britney explored her identity musically on In The Zone as she entered her 20s and her mid 20s with Blackout with that livving in the spotlight and its negatives. Her next record i hope will be absolutely relentless!

I mean while i like Kylie and Janet...they very much have gotten stuck in there "commercial popstar" rut, with safey safey choices musically etc... nothing truly exciting or refreshing or new....just...what they can do tbh.

But with Britney i thnk we all know what she can still be capable of...but her perspectives are so different right now. But for Britney to release an album of real darker, intenser stuff like a spiritual cleansing in a way...that would really earn her worldwide respect i feel again.”

Fingers crossed then I don't know which management is going to handle Britney's career from now on, granted that she's on RCA now. Maybe some of Jive's staff are still working on RCA, but I'd like her to work with a less controlling team.

I'd like a dark album too in the near future. But I feel like it's not time yet unfortunately. I'd still be satisfied if her 8th album was her official international re-introduction, with her performances being top notch and her being back on top. She can still deliver awesome pop music, even if it's not time to go all experimental and truly be groundbreaking. It's not a hard pill to swallow as long as she delivers those HOT performances to accompany the material, even if they're not as epic as 'Blackout' and 'ITZ' were Just imagine the frenzy if THIS Britney pops out of nowhere in the VMA's of 2013
Josh Pinder
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Fingers crossed then I don't know which management is going to handle Britney's career from now on, granted that she's on RCA now. Maybe some of Jive's staff are still working on RCA, but I'd like her to work with a less controlling team.

I'd like a dark album too in the near future. But I feel like it's not time yet unfortunately. I'd still be satisfied if her 8th album was her official international re-introduction, with her performances being top notch and her being back on top. She can still deliver awesome pop music, even if it's not time to go all experimental and truly be groundbreaking. It's not a hard pill to swallow as long as she delivers those HOT performances to accompany the material, even if they're not as epic as 'Blackout' and 'ITZ' were Just imagine the frenzy if THIS Britney pops out of nowhere in the VMA's of 2013 ”

Tbh i now have out of my mind that Britney of that 1999 - 2004 era of time will ever come back.

But it would be exciting to see a new version of that Britney come alive in the contemporary music era...instead of really intense choreo...why not more simplistic routines as ROUTINES really. Doesnt have to be all street all the time...because Britney will never ever be the dancer she was....but she can stil ldance....just wish she never limited herself though tbh.

But a massive powerful theatrical performance would be stellar...so much out there now that is so amateur It hurts me!
O.Michel
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Tbh i now have out of my mind that Britney of that 1999 - 2004 era of time will ever come back.

But it would be exciting to see a new version of that Britney come alive in the contemporary music era...instead of really intense choreo...why not more simplistic routines as ROUTINES really. Doesnt have to be all street all the time...because Britney will never ever be the dancer she was....but she can stil ldance....just wish she never limited herself though tbh.

But a massive powerful theatrical performance would be stellar...so much out there now that is so amateur It hurts me!”


I have faith in her, though! I know it's become cliche for her fans to mention it all the time, but what about the 'Mannequin' rehearsal. If they let her perform with boots or sneakers and give her more time to prepare without too many theatrics (less is more ), she can really pull it off. Of course she doesn't have to replicate the routines of her heyday, but she can be just as slick and just as entertaining if she puts a little effort into it
Josh Pinder
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
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I have faith in her, though! I know it's become cliche for her fans to mention it all the time, but what about the 'Mannequin' rehearsal. If they let her perform with boots or sneakers and give her more time to prepare without too many theatrics (less is more ), she can really pull it off. Of course she doesn't have to replicate the routines of her heyday, but she can be just as slick and just as entertaining if she puts a little effort into it ”

Yeah i do have faith in Ms Spears, Christ i wouldnt love her if i didnt lol. But I really think that in future if they want wider audiences then Britney should adapt to what she can do and not do what she did do and not live up to it.

I mean look at the greats in Music, Film and Entertainment. They all adapted and reinvented and reinvigorated their careers across their legacies. Whatever impediment they would work around it...now Britney damaged her knee severely in 2004, she had a massive personal media breakdown for 3 consecutive years and her die hard fans (not me) always force ehr to do what she did at her peak!

Whereas IMO yes simplicity is always the best style....but theatrics make the songs three dimensional when performed too! When i play the Blackout album i do visualise demonic cameramen chasing the popstarlet. When i hear Femme Fatale i hear these Japanese Anime themes...but the visuals dont ever represent the sounds tbh.

So IMO it would be interesting for Britney to adapt to herself and change up her style, her sounds, her way of thinking come her next album release and just shake it all up a lot.

I mean i love her influences and inspirations and that she loves a lot of music out there in contemporary culture! Why not utilise this?? more freedom, more expression, more cutting edge stuff...and we will have our Britney back...not the Britney 1999 - 2004....but a newer refreshed one that can access casual listeners and a wider fanbase.
O.Michel
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Yeah i do have faith in Ms Spears, Christ i wouldnt love her if i didnt lol. But I really think that in future if they want wider audiences then Britney should adapt to what she can do and not do what she did do and not live up to it.

I mean look at the greats in Music, Film and Entertainment. They all adapted and reinvented and reinvigorated their careers across their legacies. Whatever impediment they would work around it...now Britney damaged her knee severely in 2004, she had a massive personal media breakdown for 3 consecutive years and her die hard fans (not me) always force ehr to do what she did at her peak!

Whereas IMO yes simplicity is always the best style....but theatrics make the songs three dimensional when performed too! When i play the Blackout album i do visualise demonic cameramen chasing the popstarlet. When i hear Femme Fatale i hear these Japanese Anime themes...but the visuals dont ever represent the sounds tbh.

So IMO it would be interesting for Britney to adapt to herself and change up her style, her sounds, her way of thinking come her next album release and just shake it all up a lot.

I mean i love her influences and inspirations and that she loves a lot of music out there in contemporary culture! Why not utilise this?? more freedom, more expression, more cutting edge stuff...and we will have our Britney back...not the Britney 1999 - 2004....but a newer refreshed one that can access casual listeners and a wider fanbase.”

Agreed. It's almost been a decade since 'ITZ', so I don't want her to try to copy those eras, she just has to rediscover what made her passionate, dedicated and iconic back then and bring it back in a refreshed innovative way. Not here for replicas anyway

She obviously can't do the exact same moves, wear the exact same clothes or sing the exact same songs, but commanding a stage is something she's always had inside her and I want to see that again in full effect in her revamped career.
Josh Pinder
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Agreed. It's almost been a decade since 'ITZ', so I don't want her to try to copy those eras, she just has to rediscover what made her passionate, dedicated and iconic back then and bring it back in a refreshed innovative way. Not here for replicas anyway

She obviously can't do the exact same moves, wear the exact same clothes or sing the exact same songs, but commanding a stage is something she's always had inside her and I want to see that again in full effect in her revamped career. ”

Well said! yeah very much so this.

i mean she doesnt have to resrict herself, just make herself comfortable in her own skin. i mean the likes of Kylie and Cher aint dancers but when they have uptempo sonvs they engage and have presence...heck you will agree Christina aint one of the best dancers but she has presence too. Britney is a dancer....but i think where i want her to focus is presence....the main arguement outside of the US Press is that Britney is very "Cyber-Like" in her live shows...now of course us fans will defend her till the world ends! But Britney does need to work her sexy touche off! Doesnt have to be a world tour...but just to get attention back on her again tbh and earn a sense of respect perhaps.
O.Michel
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“Well said! yeah very much so this.

i mean she doesnt have to resrict herself, just make herself comfortable in her own skin. i mean the likes of Kylie and Cher aint dancers but when they have uptempo sonvs they engage and have presence...heck you will agree Christina aint one of the best dancers but she has presence too. Britney is a dancer....but i think where i want her to focus is presence....the main arguement outside of the US Press is that Britney is very "Cyber-Like" in her live shows...now of course us fans will defend her till the world ends! But Britney does need to work her sexy touche off! Doesnt have to be a world tour...but just to get attention back on her again tbh and earn a sense of respect perhaps.”

Agreed, she needs to work. She's getting her stage presence back slowly, but she needs to step it up and go for it. Besides, the key to Britney's takeover was never the intricate choreography, but the attitude, the swagger! Noone's going to slate her if she misses a couple of steps or if her choreography is basic and simple, she just needs to do it in a slick way and make it look epic even if it's nothing special.

And I also agree that she doesn't have to be flawless, she just has to catch people's eye. Maybe some live singing, more interraction with the crowd, better clothes (less diva, lose the heels too) and better wigs ( it's true, though)
umr3000
20-04-2012
Currently Britney Spears is scheduled to head back into the recording studios to work on her eighth studio album from December 2012, meaning it will most likely get released towards the end of 2013.

I think her last two albums were very good efforts and it kept her making music and working, HOWEVER with her next album I want her to have more creative control and a real input into the sounds and vibe of the whole album, very much like her 2003 outing 'In The Zone' which I still feel was Britney at her artistic best.

Hopefully by the time the new album begins wok she will be free of her constervship, and will be regaining full control of her life once again.... also maybe appearing on The X Factor before then will help her gain more confidence in talking and being of more open infront of the camera, and of course more spontaneous rather than being scripted and heavily edited... which has been the main problem over the last four years or so.

When Britney returns with new music I want her to be powerful and sexy and fun just like the Britney pre 2004... I want her to be really involved in her career and of course the most important thing is that she promotes her music well across the world and regain her position as the true princess of pop.
Josh Pinder
20-04-2012
Originally Posted by umr3000:
“Currently Britney Spears is scheduled to head back into the recording studios to work on her eighth studio album from December 2012, meaning it will most likely get released towards the end of 2013.

I think her last two albums were very good efforts and it kept her making music and working, HOWEVER with her next album I want her to have more creative control and a real input into the sounds and vibe of the whole album, very much like her 2003 outing 'In The Zone' which I still feel was Britney at her artistic best.

Hopefully by the time the new album begins wok she will be free of her constervship, and will be regaining full control of her life once again.... also maybe appearing on The X Factor before then will help her gain more confidence in talking and being of more open infront of the camera, and of course more spontaneous rather than being scripted and heavily edited... which has been the main problem over the last four years or so.

When Britney returns with new music I want her to be powerful and sexy and fun just like the Britney pre 2004... I want her to be really involved in her career and of course the most important thing is that she promotes her music well across the world and regain her position as the true princess of pop.”

Very good words here, never thought about it this way...i just dont want her to become a Cowell puppet tbh thats my main worry!

But for Britney to get her spontaneous attitude back!....i am all for that! And certainly by 2013 she will develop very well i hope!
Poison_Ivan
23-04-2012
I think it wouldnt hurt her career aswell if she featured on a few singles, Will.i.am i know about that but another 1 or 2 would be good. And X-factor if this does happen it could be a smart move but i do agree i wouldnt wanna see her become a cowell puppet! I`d love her new album to have creative control and be a smash over here aswell. No more leaks and some promo would so help
Hit Em Up Style
23-04-2012
I think her last album would have put her back on the pop map but I think lack of promo stopped the era from being one of her best.

Hold It Against Me & Til The World Ends could have been number 1 singles here if she had only promoted them..
cnbcwatcher
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Poison_Ivan:
“I think it wouldnt hurt her career aswell if she featured on a few singles, Will.i.am i know about that but another 1 or 2 would be good. And X-factor if this does happen it could be a smart move but i do agree i wouldnt wanna see her become a cowell puppet! I`d love her new album to have creative control and be a smash over here aswell. No more leaks and some promo would so help ”

Has there been any more news about this? Is Big Fat Bass getting a release or is it a completely new song?
Poison_Ivan
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher:
“Has there been any more news about this? Is Big Fat Bass getting a release or is it a completely new song?”

Im not in the know either i do think its a brand new release rather than Big Fta Bass. As no more singles are being released from Femme Fatale.
Poison_Ivan
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“I think her last album would have put her back on the pop map but I think lack of promo stopped the era from being one of her best.

Hold It Against Me & Til The World Ends could have been number 1 singles here if she had only promoted them..”

I agree but lets not forget leaks and Jive.
mimicole
01-05-2012
Britney track from the 2008 sessions appears online

Link
cnbcwatcher
01-05-2012
^ I like it! Shame it was not on Circus. As I've said before Britney really needs to bring out a CD (or a couple of CDs) of unreleased songs.
OutFromUnder
06-05-2012
New Candids!
http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/lmnm...osbuvbbcacohc/
Hav_mor91
08-05-2012
I think ITZ may be becoming my favourite its taken about 9 years but i think im a little in love with it lol.
Josh Pinder
08-05-2012
In The Zone, Blackout and Femme Fatale i have come to the conclusion tie for me.
Hav_mor91
08-05-2012
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“In The Zone, Blackout and Femme Fatale i have come to the conclusion tie for me.”

I never realised how stripped back and very much Rol it is like its kind of spiritual and sensual and a great direction but then there is the electro grime of black out and the cohesive dubstep dance vibes of FF so as you say a difficult one.

Plus always have had a soft spot for Britney and ...Baby One More Time only two im not overly keen on are oops and Circus
Josh Pinder
08-05-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“I never realised how stripped back and very much Rol it is like its kind of spiritual and sensual and a great direction but then there is the electro grime of black out and the cohesive dubstep dance vibes of FF so as you say a difficult one.

Plus always have had a soft spot for Britney and ...Baby One More Time only two im not overly keen on are oops and Circus”

In The Zone is Britney at her MOST Madonna in essence definitely....nice elements of ROL in there and Erotica....even a bit of Control Era Janet too and Prince sexy smut too so yeah daaang right on right on!

An i love the grimeyness of Blackout, Its like an absolute nightmare come to life...like an sex-bot has crashed to earth and absorbed the bitterness of pop culture and exploded it in a confessional.

And Femme Fatale is like the counter opposite...some Industrial/Dub themes but very euphoric and bright and summery!

I do like Britney and Baby One More Time albums too....i agree those two dont do as much to me as they did respectively in release months tbh...though some songs on each album still have repeat listen every so often.
Hav_mor91
08-05-2012
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“In The Zone is Britney at her MOST Madonna in essence definitely....nice elements of ROL in there and Erotica....even a bit of Control Era Janet too and Prince sexy smut too so yeah daaang right on right on!

An i love the grimeyness of Blackout, Its like an absolute nightmare come to life...like an sex-bot has crashed to earth and absorbed the bitterness of pop culture and exploded it in a confessional.

And Femme Fatale is like the counter opposite...some Industrial/Dub themes but very euphoric and bright and summery!

I do like Britney and Baby One More Time albums too....i agree those two dont do as much to me as they did respectively in release months tbh...though some songs on each album still have repeat listen every so often.”

You have described FF and ITZ perfectly but for me Blackout is like some critics said its that moment when your in a dingy club unaware of what going on around you until you blackout on the scummy floor before waking up bolder and brighter than before its a shame FF didnt follow Cirucs is like the cut offs and b-sides to blackout why go back to bubblegum having come so far.
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