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Britney Spears Appreciation Thread (Part 4)
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O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by ItsTimmyTime:
“TWO PICTURES OF THE CRIMINAL VIDEO ON UNTOUCHABLEBRITNEY.NET

Its her and Jason running out of a store, Britney has a gun and looks AMAZING!! She just seems so happy and comfortable!”

This is the link
http://www.killthelights.org/display..._display_media

While the concept seems great and she looks AMAZING (), I really expected something different.I will have to watch the video to decide, though
little-monster
18-09-2011
So she got Jason to star in the video? That's nice and more believeable to watch
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Those two pictures are insane!

I getting a big What It Feels Like For A Girl vibe from this, mixed with something else Madonna has done. I don't know what though.

This is like the Britney of old. This has the POTENTIAL to cause a stir, shooting a violent video in London including a robbery whilst armed in the aftermath of the riots.

P.S. Christina didn't get a montage video for The XF because her career is a flop.

I like letting the teenager in me out sometimes.
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“Those two pictures are insane!

I getting a big What It Feels Like For A Girl vibe from this, mixed with something else Madonna has done. I don't know what though.

This is like the Britney of old. This has the POTENTIAL to cause a stir, shooting a violent video in London including a robbery whilst armed in the aftermath of the riots.

P.S. Christina didn't get a montage video for The XF because her career is a flop.

I like letting the teenager in me out sometimes.”

It is all very exciting indeed!
Correction : Christina didn't get a montage video for the XF because her career from March 2010 to February 2011 was a flop, not her whole career.Don't get it twisted.And the "flop" word has started being snubbed by teenagers as uncool, so at this point you unleashed the kid in you, not the teenager.I'm a teenager and I don't call people flops
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“It is all very exciting indeed!
Correction : Christina didn't get a montage video for the XF because her career from March 2010 to February 2011 was a flop, not her whole career.Don't get it twisted.And the "flop" word has started being snubbed by teenagers as uncool, so at this point you unleashed the kid in you, not the teenager.I'm a teenager and I don't call people flops ”

Bad Teen-Pop, a bi-polar R'n'B album, a bad nu-jazz tribute and that mess you just mentioned isn't really a sterling career.

The girl's got a good voice though, I'll give her that.

And ''Flop'' will continue to be used by everyone to describe something that has failed to live up to expectations or past work by many people. I was just spiking off the recent teenage trend for using it. Unfortunately, being a 30 year old married father doesn't give me much time to update the trend as often as I should.
little-monster
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“Bad Teen-Pop, a bi-polar R'n'B album, a bad nu-jazz tribute and that mess you just mentioned isn't really a sterling career.

The girl's got a good voice though, I'll give her that.

And ''Flop'' will continue to be used by everyone to describe something that has failed to live up to expectations or past work by many people. I was just spiking off the recent teenage trend for using it. Unfortunately, being a 30 year old married father doesn't give me much time to update the trend as often as I should.”

Your going by your opinion with very little fact. Have you heard her albums?

A bad bipolar album or not but Stripped was one of the most critically acclaimed albums of last decade. Her Jazz album was also acclaimed and raised a few eyebrows in showing the versatility.
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Your going by your opinion with very little fact. Have you heard her albums?

A bad bipolar album or not but Stripped was one of the most critically acclaimed albums of last decade. Her Jazz album was also acclaimed and raised a few eyebrows in showing the versatility.”

Why would I call them bad albums if I hadn't heard them?

I suppose I've never gotten the hype about her. The music is very bland, and doesn't stick. I don't let what critics say determine my tastes, by the way. ''Critically Acclaimed'' doesn't mean much to me.

Like I said, she has a good voice. I've heard very little finished material of note though. Fighter is good.
Josh Pinder
18-09-2011
OHMYDAYS! that Criminal video sounds incredible! I love the shot of Britney with a gun.

Even more hints as to why she should be in a Tarantino movie as a bad ass

Britney kicks ass.

And Xtinas Stripped SLAYS Chicago Baron wash yer mouth out and Back To Basics kicks ass too

But unfortunately from a critical POV Stripped wasnt successful which is weird as the sales and attention by everyone was MASSIVE.
little-monster
18-09-2011
You would be suprised how quick people are to label an album bad by opinions or sales or by not really listening to the album with an open mind.

Anyway back to what this thread is about, and that's Britney, Bitch.

Can't wait for the video
Josh Pinder
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“You would be suprised how quick people are to label an album bad by opinions or sales or by not really listening to the album with an open mind.

Anyway back to what this thread is about, and that's Britney, Bitch.

Can't wait for the video”

^^^ our comments have come full circle now i think LC my man!

Critical analysis, sales dont reflect album overall....NAILED.

And yes Britney Biatch! this video should have UK relaunch methinks!
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“You would be suprised how quick people are to label an album bad by opinions or sales or by not really listening to the album with an open mind.”

That would be incredibly stupid.:sleep:
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“Bad Teen-Pop, a bi-polar R'n'B album, a bad nu-jazz tribute and that mess you just mentioned isn't really a sterling career.

The girl's got a good voice though, I'll give her that.

And ''Flop'' will continue to be used by everyone to describe something that has failed to live up to expectations or past work by many people. I was just spiking off the recent teenage trend for using it. Unfortunately, being a 30 year old married father doesn't give me much time to update the trend as often as I should.”

Ok, where do you start here...?
1)Bad teen-pop
Her debut was one of the most acclaimed pop albums of that era and for its genre, it's considered very good.
2)A bi-polar R'n'b album
This is too ridiculous for me to respond.I don't know if you have time in your hands, but you need to listen to 'Stripped'.If you haven't, then you can just avoid comments like that because 'Stripped' is a classic and it's not r'n'b', it's pop, soul, r'n'b and blues.
3)A bad nu-jazz album
B2B wasn't a nu-jazz album.It used jazz and soul influences but it was still an experimental and different pop album which was also critically acclaimed.It's an amazing album with great lyrical context and top notch production
4)that mess
I am really tired of responding to Bionic shade, so I'll leave it there.Whoever actually gave 30 minutes to listen to the stand-out tracks from the album knows that it was far from a mess
5)And ''Flop'' will continue to be used by everyone to describe something that has failed to live up to expectations or past work by many people.
Well, flop started being used for mostly movies that failed to make as much money as they cost, so the company actually lost money.If sales < budget, then it is a flop.But since nobody knows what 'Bionic' cost to make we cannot call it a flop.When you want to compare to an artist's past work, you use "underperform" which is clearly for comparisons."Flop" is another story and a very overrused word

I think I'm done. (that was not an attack or a rant.It was off-topic, though )
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Ok, I'm just going to ask to get it over with

TheChicagoBaron..., are you MindBodySoul with a different name???You use the same phrases, the same lines about Christina and you have the same opinion too
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by Josh Pinder:
“OHMYDAYS! that Criminal video sounds incredible! I love the shot of Britney with a gun.

Even more hints as to why she should be in a Tarantino movie as a bad ass

Britney kicks ass.

And Xtinas Stripped SLAYS Chicago Baron wash yer mouth out and Back To Basics kicks ass too

But unfortunately from a critical POV Stripped wasnt successful which is weird as the sales and attention by everyone was MASSIVE.”

I am actually wondering if she is going to shoot someone....And the rest of the video is definetely intiguing.I think the end of the video will be qutie spectacular

('Blackout' and 'ITZ' were slammed as well, but then the critics were proven wrong.I never trusted the judgement of people who get paid to criticize because they don't have to pay anything to get the records and they have to judge artists that they don't like so they may be pre-occupied.I trust the judgement of people like the members here who actually PAY to get an album, so they have the right to be disappointed and bash the artist )
little-monster
18-09-2011
I never listen to crtics but i know a few people who do which i don't understand. I find the majority of the critics are usually middle aged men who usually hate modern day pop which then reflects the review.
mimicole
18-09-2011
Love the photos from the Criminal shoot. I'm intrigued to see the video now.
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Ok, where do you start here...?
1)Bad teen-pop
Her debut was one of the most acclaimed pop albums of that era and for its genre, it's considered very good.
2)A bi-polar R'n'b album
This is too ridiculous for me to respond.I don't know if you have time in your hands, but you need to listen to 'Stripped'.If you haven't, then you can just avoid comments like that because 'Stripped' is a classic and it's not r'n'b', it's pop, soul, r'n'b and blues.
3)A bad nu-jazz album
B2B wasn't a nu-jazz album.It used jazz and soul influences but it was still an experimental and different pop album which was also critically acclaimed.It's an amazing album with great lyrical context and top notch production
4)that mess
I am really tired of responding to Bionic shade, so I'll leave it there.Whoever actually gave 30 minutes to listen to the stand-out tracks from the album knows that it was far from a mess
5)And ''Flop'' will continue to be used by everyone to describe something that has failed to live up to expectations or past work by many people.
Well, flop started being used for mostly movies that failed to make as much money as they cost, so the company actually lost money.If sales < budget, then it is a flop.But since nobody knows what 'Bionic' cost to make we cannot call it a flop.When you want to compare to an artist's past work, you use "underperform" which is clearly for comparisons."Flop" is another story and a very overrused word

I think I'm done. (that was not an attack or a rant.It was off-topic, though )”

I'm not even going to try to respond to this, because it's a bit creepy to be honest.

Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Ok, I'm just going to ask to get it over with

TheChicagoBaron..., are you MindBodySoul with a different name???You use the same phrases, the same lines about Christina and you have the same opinion too ”

Nope!

As hard as this may be for you to hear, more than one person may not like Christina.

Anyway, I thought people weren't allowed have multiple accounts on any site?

I'm not the most technologically gifted.
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“I'm not even going to try to respond to this, because it's a bit creepy to be honest.”

So, giving arguments is creepy.I just took your main points and told you why I disagree.That was all...
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“Nope!

As hard as this may be for you to hear, more than one person may not like Christina.

Anyway, I thought people weren't allowed have multiple accounts on any site?

I'm not the most technologically gifted.”

Please, credit me with some sense.Of course many people dislike Christina and I acknowledge that.However, I have to admit that you and MindBodySoul are the first (and probably only) Christina doubters that give the EXACT same arguments, the EXACT same subtle shade, the EXACT same punchlines to piss Christina fans off...I don't know.I couldn't help it; I had to ask
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“So, giving arguments is creepy.I just took your main points and told you why I disagree.That was all...

Please, credit me with some sense.Of course many people dislike Christina and I acknowledge that.However, I have to admit that you and MindBodySoul are the first (and probably only) Christina doubters that give the EXACT same arguments, the EXACT same subtle shade, the EXACT same punchlines to piss Christina fans off...I don't know.I couldn't help it; I had to ask”

The arguements weren't exactly unbiased though. You sound a bit like a fanboy. No offence or anything, I get that you really like her. Opinions, etc.

And I'm still not sure what you mean by comparing me to this other person.

So there's another person who thinks the woman has a good voice but doesn't make great music, on this site?

Again, I don't think you're allowed multiple accounts here. Isn't that in the Terms and Conditions?

Anyway, this is way off-topic. When are Britney's interviews airing?
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“The arguements weren't exactly unbiased though. You sound a bit like a fanboy. No offence or anything, I get that you really like her. Opinions, etc.

And I'm still not sure what you mean by comparing me to this other person.

So there's another person who thinks the woman has a good voice but doesn't make great music, on this site?

Again, I don't think you're allowed multiple accounts here. Isn't that in the Terms and Conditions?

Anyway, this is way off-topic. When are Britney's interviews airing?”

What does "fanboy" mean??I suspect that it's negative and that it's your word for "stan", which I'm not.I can see the flaws in Christina and I don't think she's perfect, either.My points were about my opinion and my prospective to show you why I disagree with what you said.Don't make it out to be more than that

And no, you can't have multiple accounts, but you can change your nickname if you want to and since I haven't seen MindBodySoul lately, I just thought it MIGHT be you.And it's not about what you said.There are many people that don't like Christina's music, yet they give her credit for her voice.What impressed me is that you used the same argument for not liking her, the same punchline to piss her fans off, the same attitude towards her and her career.The similarities were too intense, but it's not like I'm blaming you for anything.I asked, you answered and that's all.But even if you were MindBodySoul (I said "IF") there would still be nothing wrong.
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“What does "fanboy" mean??I suspect that it's negative and that it's your word for "stan", which I'm not.I can see the flaws in Christina and I don't think she's perfect, either.My points were about my opinion and my prospective to show you why I disagree with what you said.Don't make it out to be more than that

And no, you can't have multiple accounts, but you can change your nickname if you want to and since I haven't seen MindBodySoul lately, I just thought it MIGHT be you.And it's not about what you said.There are many people that don't like Christina's music, yet they give her credit for her voice.What impressed me is that you used the same argument for not liking her, the same punchline to piss her fans off, the same attitude towards her and her career.The similarities were too intense, but it's not like I'm blaming you for anything.I asked, you answered and that's all.But even if you were MindBodySoul (I said "IF") there would still be nothing wrong.”

Yes, fanboy is another word for Stan. You've made me feel a bit un-hip today.

When I signed up it said I could never change my username, so... I don't know. Like I said, I'm not very skilled with computers.

By the way, I asked you a question!
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by TheChicagoBaron:
“Yes, fanboy is another word for Stan. You've made me feel a bit un-hip today.

When I signed up it said I could never change my username, so... I don't know. Like I said, I'm not very skilled with computers.

By the way, I asked you a question!”

Don't perceive it as un-cool (well, "un-hip" if that works for you), just see it as different or retro I'm just kidding.
You asked me 3 questions...
1)Yes
2)You can change your nickname, but it's not that simple.You have to apply for it and I don't know if it will be accepted or not because I don't want to change my nickname, so I never bothered
3)She will appear on 2 shows on Tuesday and on some more shows throughout September, I guess.She might actually perform when she comes to the UK for the FF tour.

And btw, it's not about you not being skilled with computers. Knowing the terms and conditions has nothing to do with the use of computers in general, so don't worry about that.
TheChicagoBaron
18-09-2011
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“Don't perceive it as un-cool (well, "un-hip" if that works for you), just see it as different or retro I'm just kidding.
You asked me 3 questions...
1)Yes
2)You can change your nickname, but it's not that simple.You have to apply for it and I don't know if it will be accepted or not because I don't want to change my nickname, so I never bothered
3)She will appear on 2 shows on Tuesday and on some more shows throughout September, I guess.She might actually perform when she comes to the UK for the FF tour.

And btw, it's not about you not being skilled with computers. Knowing the terms and conditions has nothing to do with the use of computers in general, so don't worry about that.”

Ah, but the Terms and Conditions could include some inside lingo I can't understand.

Tuesday, and the rest of September. Also, rumours of X Factor. Right, so Britain is in for a good bit of Britney.
Josh Pinder
18-09-2011
arguments on a Britney thread.....no waaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Criminal, i hope she shoots someone, she can blow the house down man!

And yeah critis always have their moment to pick on an artist they are biased to and or have decided to have an agenda about a recently successful artist or whatever.

Look at Madonna for example (always used as a reference because damn boi its how the world rock n rolls!) Erotica came a year and half after Blonde AMbition, This Used To Be My Playground etc, success and Maverick setup success. Critics were biased by the imagery, SEX book and looked at music on a shallow "level" rather than appreciating the Erotica album/era itself....a phenomenal record phenomenally underrated and slammed but eventually praised.

Then we come to American Life, after ROL,Music,Tour MASSIVE success, critics tried to pan the album, deem it "awful" or whatever when i nactual fact it had a lot to say and was one of the greatest albums of 2003....and the decade too. But critics presented bias forcing videos to be cancelled/postponed etc. and sales affected due to this.

Same with Britney and ITZ and Blackout....sudden bias and criticism which appeared out of the blue at the respective times. Blackout because she was in breakdown phase and people though" oh Britney isnt Britney we mustnt like the album" and ITZ "Britney has had her success lets slam something!". Same with Stripped being slammed. They looked at the Dirrty video and criticised the album based on image....the contrary and irony was it was one of the biggest albums too of the decade an her magnum opus THUS far

Now with Femme Fatale fan reception has been fantastic, critical reaction has been very positive....sales have not proved this and promo (until now) very Stateside!
O.Michel
18-09-2011
Well, it's not a coincidence that all the major icons/legends were artist that ignored professional critics.If Madonna wasn't brave and ballsy enough to release 'Erotica' and pull off the lyrical context of 'American Dream' (those lyrics were so brilliant!!) then she just wouldn't be Madonna.The same goes for the new generation icons too, so even if Metacritic gives Britney a 10/100, she will still keep going
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