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I would love for her to release "Original Doll" (not gonna happen seeing as most of it has been destroyed. Who does that?! Her record label must have been suffocating for them to have done that ....) but I don't know whether it would be successful now. Am I alone? I feel that the time for that to be huge has passed.
they will release a posthumous album or two with these songs on it, much like what happened with Michael Jackson and make more money outta her.I reckon if it was released now the problem with it is that it would sound dated as it was intended to be released in 2005/2006 and it probably would have conformed to the typical pop sound of the time. Us fans would probably buy it but can you see the general public lapping it up? So many of them think Britney is irrelevant and a has-been and she has been overshadowed by other popstars. Quote:
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I don't know who destroys albums, but some people suggest the Illuminati might have something to do with it. That's a load of rubbish though. I'd say her label didn't like the fact that it was gonna be a very personal "tell-all" album. They probably thought it would alienate the fanbase. I have another theory about the songs, but this could be a load of rubbish. I suspect they might have not been destroyed after all but they might be keeping them under lock and key and then when Britney dies
they will release a posthumous album or two with these songs on it, much like what happened with Michael Jackson and make more money outta her.I reckon if it was released now the problem with it is that it would sound dated as it was intended to be released in 2005/2006 and it probably would have conformed to the typical pop sound of the time. Us fans would probably buy it but can you see the general public lapping it up? So many of them think Britney is irrelevant and a has-been and she has been overshadowed by other popstars. Cool. My username's GetToWorkBitch Have fun posting there!Also I guess Britney is similar in that side of thinvs the label MADE them atists so maybe they see it as...you do as you are told....but with Madonna she really made sure she had creative control with Sire records...and Warner Bros. She was her own artist and experiment...and the label always met halfway with her....same with Prince ...although later he found trouble when he was in his 30s. It is annoying really that labels still restrics their artists "just incase" i mean WTAF happened to Christina Aguileras REAL Bionic album? i mean the final result was a solid good Pop album BUT ....it is just insane...yet we see Justin Timberlake making the music he wants, we have P!nk (then again her label probably reinforce the "aint broke, why fix it?" vibe), Beyonce etc...they all seem to get their own way almost...it is just criminal (ahem!) in many ways Britney has not had that chance to go NO....this is me....and do her own thing. She has come so close...and i hope when she leaves Jive/Sony she can really be with a label that enforces her stance and allows to reinvent herself...I am just uncertain whether her mind is in it...does she only have one album left under her current label? maybe she should just unleash some of the other recordings from the Britney Jean sessions and do her "Feed The Wolves" album so we can taste some Wolf-Ney <3 |
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To be honest labels do tend to really try and fight with artists...i know from reading Cyndi Lauper fought with her label the most....they wanted her to "compete" or work with hot stuff property to "sell" alongside Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson....but she always had to fight away from that and be herself more.
Also I guess Britney is similar in that side of thinvs the label MADE them atists so maybe they see it as...you do as you are told....but with Madonna she really made sure she had creative control with Sire records...and Warner Bros. She was her own artist and experiment...and the label always met halfway with her....same with Prince ...although later he found trouble when he was in his 30s. It is annoying really that labels still restrics their artists "just incase" i mean WTAF happened to Christina Aguileras REAL Bionic album? i mean the final result was a solid good Pop album BUT ....it is just insane...yet we see Justin Timberlake making the music he wants, we have P!nk (then again her label probably reinforce the "aint broke, why fix it?" vibe), Beyonce etc...they all seem to get their own way almost...it is just criminal (ahem!) in many ways Britney has not had that chance to go NO....this is me....and do her own thing. She has come so close...and i hope when she leaves Jive/Sony she can really be with a label that enforces her stance and allows to reinvent herself...I am just uncertain whether her mind is in it...does she only have one album left under her current label? maybe she should just unleash some of the other recordings from the Britney Jean sessions and do her "Feed The Wolves" album so we can taste some Wolf-Ney <3 |
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To be honest labels do tend to really try and fight with artists...i know from reading Cyndi Lauper fought with her label the most....they wanted her to "compete" or work with hot stuff property to "sell" alongside Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson....but she always had to fight away from that and be herself more.
Also I guess Britney is similar in that side of thinvs the label MADE them atists so maybe they see it as...you do as you are told....but with Madonna she really made sure she had creative control with Sire records...and Warner Bros. She was her own artist and experiment...and the label always met halfway with her....same with Prince ...although later he found trouble when he was in his 30s. It is annoying really that labels still restrics their artists "just incase" i mean WTAF happened to Christina Aguileras REAL Bionic album? i mean the final result was a solid good Pop album BUT ....it is just insane...yet we see Justin Timberlake making the music he wants, we have P!nk (then again her label probably reinforce the "aint broke, why fix it?" vibe), Beyonce etc...they all seem to get their own way almost...it is just criminal (ahem!) in many ways Britney has not had that chance to go NO....this is me....and do her own thing. She has come so close...and i hope when she leaves Jive/Sony she can really be with a label that enforces her stance and allows to reinvent herself...I am just uncertain whether her mind is in it...does she only have one album left under her current label? maybe she should just unleash some of the other recordings from the Britney Jean sessions and do her "Feed The Wolves" album so we can taste some Wolf-Ney <3 I'd totally forgotten about "Feed The Wolves". Yes, I'd like to hear that. |
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Yeah such a shame :-/
yeah i remember Orbit teasing a song about "coming out" called "behind the closet" or something which they did with Britney ....of coruse Alien...there were many more they did with Naughty Boy too...and rumoured she went to the Lake DIstrict in the summer...where did THOSE songs go?? Feed The Wolves was a heavily speculated/circulated title for it...but man i wish we had THAT album. Britney Jean confuses me really. |
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Yeah such a shame :-/
yeah i remember Orbit teasing a song about "coming out" called "behind the closet" or something which they did with Britney ....of coruse Alien...there were many more they did with Naughty Boy too...and rumoured she went to the Lake DIstrict in the summer...where did THOSE songs go?? Feed The Wolves was a heavily speculated/circulated title for it...but man i wish we had THAT album. Britney Jean confuses me really. And whose idea was it for will.i.am to end up being the executive producer of the album in the end? I really wish it had been called Feed The Wolves. It would have been epic. I hope they use that title for album 9 if there is one.
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reading all that Britney stuff really makes me think gosh i would have just gone have done with it lol......i mean to be used THAT many times by a label is disgusting! I am so pleased she battles on though i just wished that her label let her have control.
The freedom to express herself...i mean by restricting her it has left the BJ album with NO hits whatsoever...well WB is an anthem in itself BUT it didnt work well Stateside or Europe at all. Feed The Wolves - Orbit, Naughty Boy, Dev (Blood orange) Hynes, Charli XCX....and Britney! Wolfney would have been incredible...gutted for Vegas and gutted for will.i.ams involvement :-/...we could have had Britney doing the material Sky Farrera/Solange/Lorde do that Indie Pop/Electronica style would have been fascinating to see...Naughty Boy had a few big hits in Europe and is translating Stateside now...such a wasted opportunity! Yeah meh! lol |
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reading all that Britney stuff really makes me think gosh i would have just gone have done with it lol......i mean to be used THAT many times by a label is disgusting! I am so pleased she battles on though i just wished that her label let her have control.
The freedom to express herself...i mean by restricting her it has left the BJ album with NO hits whatsoever...well WB is an anthem in itself BUT it didnt work well Stateside or Europe at all. Feed The Wolves - Orbit, Naughty Boy, Dev (Blood orange) Hynes, Charli XCX....and Britney! Wolfney would have been incredible...gutted for Vegas and gutted for will.i.ams involvement :-/...we could have had Britney doing the material Sky Farrera/Solange/Lorde do that Indie Pop/Electronica style would have been fascinating to see...Naughty Boy had a few big hits in Europe and is translating Stateside now...such a wasted opportunity! Yeah meh! lol Whenever I listen to Britney Jean (which isn't that often) I think of what could have been. I love Work Bitch but the rest of the album is rather meh. No song really stands out as a potential hit. Many of the songs are rather generic and anyone could have sung them Why oh why was the album ruined? Feed The Wolves sounded awesome! I read that Danja was supposed to have produced songs for it as well. The album would have been brilliant. In fact I rank Britney Jean near the bottom. Even Oops I Did It Again is a stronger ( ) album than Britney Jean.
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I love the song Alien and how I wish Britney Jean had more songs on it in that vein than the awful generic will.i.am stuff that clogs up most of the album. I was sooo disappointed hearing the album for the first time and it's definitely my least favourite Britney album. I was a bit disappointed with Femme Fatale when I first heard it too but I still think it's ten times better than BJ. As for Original Doll I think that would have been an amazing album, going by all the leaked tracks from that era. Such a shame it was scrapped. I hope it gets a proper release one day, along with all the dozens of other Britney songs out there that have never been officially released.
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Alien is one of the few decent songs on the album. The will.i.am stuff is awful. And don't get me started on It Should Be Easy. How much autotune is used on that song alone? Femme Fatale isn't bad once you listen to it a couple of times, but I overplayed it so much I got bored of it
Blackout is and will always be my favourite Britney album. Original Doll would have been good and it would have been way more personal than Britney Jean.
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Remember when it used to be fun being a Britney fan....Naughty Boy announced this on Radio 1 in an interview
http://www.breatheheavy.com/rumor-na...t-for-britney/ she recorded the demo cut....:-/ oh Indie-Ney, Wolf-Ney...where art thou?? I just hope her label gives her back control because THAT could have been her "Ray of Light" album moment....Hipster Britney in action with Naghty Boy, Charli XCX, Orbit, Dev Hynes in a dreampop/soulful/electronica album....but...no :-/ why not?? for me...while i still "like" Britney Jean...i prefer it to her first two album still....i feel the pace goes off kilter come the end of WB, it builds up and goes BOOM and trancey then we los pace with the Sia stuff and Will.i.am stuff...i can handle it in bits but i just feel...we could/should have had a genuinely beautiful album. |
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I know! It doesn't feel like a good time to be a Britney fan, even though I've listened to her music a lot over the last few months. Sometimes (
) there are days when I listen to nothing but Britney! Some people still look at me strange when I tell them I'm a Britney fan. They still think she's crazy and one guy called her a talentless idiot The original concept for what became Britney Jean (the whole Feed The Wolves thing) sounded brilliant! I'd love to hear the Charli XCX songs that didn't make the cut. Hopefully for album 9 she'll keep will.i.am away from the album or we'll end up with another generic mess
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I think Fenme Fatale is her second best album after the legendary blackout. Britney Jean isn't a strong album but isn't really any worse than her first two albums. I just think that because it came after Femme Fatale it is a little disappointing.
Songs that I really like on Britney Jean are: Work Bi*ch Perfume Passenger Good: Alien Chillin' with you Body ache Tik tik boom Don't cry Now that I found you The rest just OK/not very good |
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I think Fenme Fatale is her second best album after the legendary blackout. Britney Jean isn't a strong album but isn't really any worse than her first two albums. I just think that because it came after Femme Fatale it is a little disappointing.
I wouldn't say Britney Jean was a bad album, but it's a bit of a mess and not very consistent. I don't think it's very personal either. The will.i.am stuff is awful. It's so generic and it could have been sung by anyone. And is there really any need for all that autotune on It Should Be Easy?! I read somewhere that song was a #willpower reject. I'm not too keen on what I call the Jesus ballads either (Brightest Morning Star springs to mind here). They just seem out of place on a Britney album.
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for me i do think the Holy Spearit Trinity of albums are In The Zone, Blackout and Femme Fatale.
For me those albums really standout as strong Britney even though on FF she isnt credited as co-producer/co-writer she did co-pen/co-produce sonvs on the album....it was just that she didnt want to put her name to it if she just changed a lyric/added a verse etc etc....very modest but her influence is all over the album...whereas i do agree...Britney Jean kinda feels like the album where others have penned sonvs FOR her...you would not have thouvht she recorded it that far in advance late 2012/early 2013 Also the influence of FF i love too Billboard had since worked with Ellie goulding etc due to the success of her Dub/Underground influenced sounds on the album...very trendsetting just WISHED the concepts visually were there in the videos and promotional performances....Would have been cool seeig her personify a Femme Fatale type of persona for the year rather than basically looking the same as she did the Circus tour with a few lavish costumes here and there....if that makes sense? I loved the photography for the album just wished she BECAME the albm really i dunno...like how Madonna or Bowie BECOME their music art pieces...i think that would have even increased the love for it for me...also witsh Unbroken and Scary made the final album cut :-/ but hey. Feed The Wolves i reckon may have been up there or/if not even higher status :-/ i mean look at who she worked wth...reminds me on ITZ where we had Moby on there, Mark Taylor, Bloodshy & Avant....VERY different for 2003 where she experimented with Oriental sounds, Punk Pop and Trip Hop as well as Deep House sounds and Urban. I much prefer when she mixes up her styles and song themes. I mean on FF i love the subliminal messaging in the songs too....about states of mind, freedom, self expression and the odes to Donna Summer, Kraftwerk, New Wave/Blondie and the contemporary Urban London scene Dubstep/Industrial Pop. We could have heard another excellent album i feel but alas...i just hope they either get her working with them on the next album OR use the sonvs not used. I mean i like ALien BUT it is NOWEHERE near Orbits best work....i mean his stuff with Madonna is incredible <3 dream match...i was anticipating a similar angle or at least her own "Dice" or soemthing...instead we have Orbit & Hygrade crammed production in there to make it really commercial sounding...still a nice opener...but it should have grown from there not step backwards into EDM arenas...I dunno i just feel she gets so mistreated by her label i would adore her to becoe the artist she is rather than what her label/world eprcieve her as. |
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Great post Josh, agree with everything you said.
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just finished watching my Twin Peaks box set (and film...very recommended show)
And playing BLACKOUT right now and i read this... "...Tom Ewing of Pitchfork Media compared the relationship between Spears and Blackout with American television series Twin Peaks, saying that what made the show "so great wasn't the central good-girl-gone-bad story, it was the strangeness that story liberated. And Britney's off-disc life is both distraction from and enabler for this extraordinary album....." So true...it was a lifestyle that fascinated the world...and people sadly mainly paid attention to the craziness of her life rather than the genius music on the disc (all 15 songs on international versions) every song is a beautiful honest and raw gem....very unusual, kinetic and beautiful and raw.....for me it does reflect Britney does Rocky Horror within a David Lynch film....beautiful/macabre/surreal/frank.... |
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I agree with everything Josh said.
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thanks Adz and CNBC...i tend to go off on one when it comes to my favourite artistes
![]() some say passionate others say insane so many "what ifs..." come with Britney...and ever since recently i have really got invested in David Lynchs work on Twin Peaks/his films/album material...I really get an air of...britney being like a Lynch character almost...i am very much attracted to that nature...Also i keep forgetting she is 32....she has so much time left if she wants to to reinvent herself and really create the music she loves with a new label.I agree that while i like Bj as an album...my gosh that was the point in time to make a potentially amazing album....alas it was not to be. But i do long and hope for her to fully come out with another corker, some hits, some sonv awareness and independance again. I dont mind if the world ridicules her/takes her down...at the end of the day so what? she got through the worst years of her life and she is here thankfully today...so i am all for her coming back when she wants to one ay and surprise people...new label, new people...and massive material... Funny i was listeining to Blackout today and i looked at my CD shelf...and i thought koorrr...CHarli XCX, Lorde, Sky Ferreira just three artists around today that could have blossomed from that album or indeed...what if Britney continued that darker/indie/personal route she could be making insane music alongside...would have been beautiful and still can happen...hopefully one day
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I got something special in the mail today, the Japanese version of Britney's "Someday" single, which features Mona Lisa, Over To You Now and Chaotic as b-side tracks, so happy to have them in HQ!
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I got something special in the mail today, the Japanese version of Britney's "Someday" single, which features Mona Lisa, Over To You Now and Chaotic as b-side tracks, so happy to have them in HQ!
Where did you order it from? I notice a lot of people think Mona Lisa and Over To You Now were unreleased songs. They don't realise that those songs did get an official release.
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Wow that is awesome
Where did you order it from? I notice a lot of people think Mona Lisa and Over To You Now were unreleased songs. They don't realise that those songs did get an official release.I got it off ebay, it was used but in very good condition and was like half the price of the sealed copies so I gave it a chance and it worked out! |
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Yes, lots of people have that misconception I think.
I got it off ebay, it was used but in very good condition and was like half the price of the sealed copies so I gave it a chance and it worked out! I'm listening to Baby One More Time (the song) as I type.
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Some of these Someday songs sound like they would fit right in with ITZ tbh. Basically they are all great! Just makes me wonder how much more epic this would have been if it had progressed into a full album. But alas. We all know what happened there lol.
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they will release a posthumous album or two with these songs on it, much like what happened with Michael Jackson and make more money outta her.
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And whose idea was it for will.i.am to end up being the executive producer of the album in the end? I really wish it had been called Feed The Wolves. It would have been epic. I hope they use that title for album 9 if there is one.
Blackout is and will always be my favourite Britney album. Original Doll would have been good and it would have been way more personal than Britney Jean.
The original concept for what became Britney Jean (the whole Feed The Wolves thing) sounded brilliant! I'd love to hear the Charli XCX songs that didn't make the cut. Hopefully for album 9 she'll keep will.i.am away from the album or we'll end up with another generic mess
I read somewhere that song was a #willpower reject. I'm not too keen on what I call the Jesus ballads either (Brightest Morning Star springs to mind here). They just seem out of place on a Britney album.
I'm listening to Baby One More Time (the song) as I type.