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Cat.J
07-09-2011
Why do people eat meat?

Is it because they are not concerned about animal welfare?

Or is it for health reasons?
MamboJimbo
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Cat.J:
“Why do people eat meat?

Is it because they are not concerned about animal welfare?”

Yes, generally. Nobody who eats meat can be that concerned about animal welfare (whatever they may say) or they simply wouldn't do it.

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“Or is it for health reasons?”

It's certainly not for that! Intertia - custom - habit. That covers it for most people, I think. If you're raised to eat meat, as most people are, you need a specific reason, sometimes a particular experience, to make you stop and think about what has been a life-long custom and to consider the possibility of changing it.
Libertarian
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Cat.J:
“Why do people eat meat?

Is it because they are not concerned about animal welfare?

Or is it for health reasons?”

Because it is what human physiology dictates is best for us and for our bodies to work optimally and without disease. Go against Nature (vegetarianism) at your peril.
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Graathus
07-09-2011
I enjoy the taste and experiance of eating meat.
MamboJimbo
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Libertarian:
“Because it is what human physiology dictates is best for us and for our bodies to work optimally and without disease. Go against Nature (vegetarianism) at your peril.”

Of course you do realise that what you've said here is not only utter garbage but easily refuted and demonstrable garbage, don't you?
Justabloke
07-09-2011
I eat meat strictly to annoy vegetarians.... I don't actually like meat at all but I love the thought of all you veggies getting all emotional over it.
change the record :yawn:
Libertarian
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by MamboJimbo:
“Of course you do realise that what you've said here is not only utter garbage but easily refuted and demonstrable garbage, don't you?”

Go ahead.
MamboJimbo
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Libertarian:
“Go ahead.”

As is so often the case, the Wikipedia page on vegetarianism is a good place to start - not in its own right but via the links to subsequent material that it contains, in this case to long-term studies and reports by medical bodies around the world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetar...s_and_concerns
gareth83
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“I eat meat strictly to annoy vegetarians.... I don't actually like meat at all but I love the thought of all you veggies getting all emotional over it.
change the record :yawn:”

I like this. Although I have to disagree with you about the taste. Most meat is bloody lovely!
KidPoker
07-09-2011
Maybe because they enjoy the taste?

Did you ever consider that?
Chizzleface
07-09-2011
Meat is murder.

Tasty, tasty murder.
Baboo Yagu
07-09-2011
Because meat tastes good.
MamboJimbo
07-09-2011
The word from five posters so far is that any amount of grotesque cruelty to sentient creatures is justified and justifiable if the end product tastes nice.
Justabloke
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by gareth83:
“I like this. Although I have to disagree with you about the taste. Most meat is bloody lovely!”

shhhh.... I don't want them to know I love meat in case they send the animal rights people to picket my house.
leaby
07-09-2011
In my experience vegetarians get more hassle from meat eaters than the other way around. For one, they are often asked outright why they are veggies, which is actually quite an awkward question when you consider that a large portion of them do it for moral reasons and it forces them to adopt an air of moral superiority that infuriates non-veggies so much (unless they lie about it of course). For another, it seems to have become acceptable for people who do like their meat to bang on about it in a "humorous" fashion, which does make a mockery of one's personal choice when they uphold it for very serious reasons.

There are definitely obnoxious individuals on both sides of the fence, but disregarding the common 13-year-old girl vegetarian (sorry, I was one of these!), I'd say the majority of veggies are very modest about it (on a day-to-day basis, excluding forums for open discussion of course ).

Back on topic, meat does taste very nice and its wide availability makes it very easy to push animal welfare out of one's mind. We live in a society that generally deems the comsumption of meat as socially acceptable, so following laws of social psychology it's a simple dietary option to go along with.
Justabloke
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by MamboJimbo:
“The word from five posters so far is that any amount of grotesque cruelty to sentient creatures is justified and justifiable if the end product tastes nice.”

exactly.... and your point is?
Seriously, change the record :yawn:
Graathus
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by MamboJimbo:
“The word from five posters so far is that any amount of grotesque cruelty to sentient creatures is justified and justifiable if the end product tastes nice.”

You'd be able to quote five of us saying this right?

Thought not.
MamboJimbo
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“exactly.... and your point is?
Seriously, change the record :yawn:”

Make that six people who were at the back of the queue when compassion was being handed out.
gareth83
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“shhhh.... I don't want them to know I love meat in case they send the animal rights people to picket my house.”

It's rare that I find a response to my post so well done as yours, in any medium that I have used.

Justabloke
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by leaby:
“In my experience vegetarians get more hassle from meat eaters than the other way around. For one, they are often asked outright why they are veggies, which is actually quite an awkward question when you consider that a large portion of them do it for moral reasons and it forces them to adopt an air of moral superiority that infuriates non-veggies so much (unless they lie about it of course). For another, it seems to have become acceptable for people who do like their meat to bang on about it in a "humorous" fashion, which does make a mockery of one's personal choice when they uphold it for very serious reasons.

There are definitely obnoxious individuals on both sides of the fence, but disregarding the common 13-year-old girl vegetarian (sorry, I was one of these!), I'd say the majority of veggies are very modest about it (on a day-to-day basis, excluding forums for open discussion of course ).

Back on topic, meat does taste very nice and its wide availability makes it very easy to push animal welfare out of one's mind. We live in a society that generally deems the comsumption of meat as socially acceptable, so following laws of social psychology it's a simple dietary option to go along with.”

Yes... I mostly agree with this although not the part about who gives who the most hassle because I believe the honours are about even in that department.
I can't say I've ever met a meat eater who "got in a veggies face" about it tho' but that could be because all of my chums are quite civilised
I do know a number of veggies who'll get in yuor face about it tho' *shrug* different strokes and all that.
Graathus
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by MamboJimbo:
“Make that six people who were at the back of the queue when compassion was being handed out.”

I would suggest your diet of vegetables is causing hallucinations as no one has made this claim of cruelty but you.

A nice steak should help restore your senses.
MamboJimbo
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Graathus:
“I would suggest your diet of vegetables is causing hallucinations as no one has made this claim of cruelty but you.”

If you eat meat and fish, you support and condone cruelty to animals. That is an inescapable fact.

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“A nice steak should help restore your senses.”

No, I have't lost my senses, and a partially burnt slice of a dead animal would do nothing other than make me projectile vomit all over the nearest omnivore's head.
loujac05
07-09-2011
Humans are designed to eat meat, that is why we have canine teeth.
On the cruelty aspect we would have nearly wiped out every animal we currently farm. They would have no reason to exist, look at the numbers of wild animals that we have pushed to extinction or near extinction.
Chizzleface
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by MamboJimbo:
“Yes, generally. Nobody who eats meat can be that concerned about animal welfare (whatever they may say) or they simply wouldn't do it.”

Be careful about confusing animal welfare with animals being humanely slaughtered for meat. I would say most meat-eaters do have concern for the welfare of the animals provided for meat.

If anything, humans slaughter meat in a far more humane way than those vicious carnivores in the animal kingdom.
Justabloke
07-09-2011
Originally Posted by Graathus:
“I would suggest your diet of vegetables is causing hallucinations as no one has made this claim of cruelty but you.

A nice steak should help restore your senses.”

To demonstrate his commitment to the cause of vegetarianism he had all but his molars surgically removed, he now spends the days chewing a cud of bile and anger to spew randomly at evil meat eaters.
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