Great post. That makes a lot of sense. Damn, I actually feel really sorry for her now

Just browsing the news on the DM website (don't hate me ) and I caught a glance of this. I thought it was Christian/Johnny

You are right that doesn't add up does it? Good spot! How are you - you seemed to be ok with the episode. I think it will all be very terrible for a while, but they will all come out the other side intact and in love and all the rest. I am prepared.

another almira confusion.


I had no problem with tonight and i am usually one that panics, see everything with doubt, but i am fine.

i loved how much their love shone through and the way syed looked at christian and Christian looked at him.

Aaaah, they're lovely Thank you!

Good post! I honestly didn't think about it that deeply. Obviously, at first she would have been too angry/upset to contact Syed. By the time she'd gotten over that, had her rose-tinted glasses firmly in place and lapsed into maybe-we-could-still-get-back-together mode, her dad had effectively made it so she had no choice but to stay, because there was nothing else out there for her. Then when Syed contacted her, she suddenly had a light at the end of the tunnel, and it seemed like a sign that there was something on the outside world for her after all. Yeah, this makes a lot of sense, thank you!

I wonder what inspires her to escape proper, then, if Qadim can beat her down so effectively over Syed's first contact?

Thanks for the stats Mads, and congrats elphie!


I'm in love with that last one He has the most gorgeous eyes!

Slightly random but in EE proper, when Christian is sitting at the bar of the Vic, was Johnny wearing his new 40th birthday watch instead of Christian's watch? I only caught a glimpse of it but it looked shiny gold.

Oh, and I assume it was his 40th birthday watch because I think it only appeared after his birthday, on the next Lottery show he did. Total guesswork!

Fab post, QFT

I do hope she has the strength to move on...what i found hard to accept is that she seems happy to accept the gifts, when she could have made an attempt to live alone. But theen maybe she tried and Q forced her to come home


I do wonder if maybe her self confidence was too shot up to try

I was okay with it too, not on the first watch, but when I concentrated on the way they were with each other, the looks, their unity, then, on the whole, apart from the numpty fuel parts, I liked it a lot.

Brilliant posts about Amira, vf and mt I'm do feel really bad for her situation, I feel so bad for all 3 of them, her and Chryed have all been through so much and all deserve happiness


Thank you

He really does!!

Hey, just typed a post and the thread splits before I posted!
Another blip for me this evening!

Am using my mum's laptop as mine is still buggered although I have limited use even though she's hardly ever on hers and I am praying mine makes a miraculous recovery!

I am gutted I wasn't here as EE was on nor was I for RB reactions!

I loved snuggly Chryed loved up in their new home, but annoyed with the 'always love' line; I felt sorry for Amira but was not impressed with her less than award winning acting skills!

I am sooo relieved Chryed are not back next week as hope to have new adapter by then.

Love ya all xxxx

Given that I usually panic, and become emotional etc. I was fine with it, for the reasons you listed and slyvae and Mercury.

It will get bad, but i saw how much they loved each other in those scenes, who they felt they could be honest with each other, because they felt loved enough to be honest....i think they will come out the other side as johnny said "strong and united" with you starfish

I think you're right, it does look shiny gold!

Well, I think the gifts thing is the way that Qadim shows not only his love for her, but his control over her. Like "how could you possibly think I'm keeping you prisoner when I buy you expensive phones and laptops?" I do think Amira would be unwise to reject the gifts, because she'd be made out to be ungrateful, and get a whole 'after everything I've done for you' speech. Also, there's nothing else in her life, at least laptops and phones give her something to do when the baby is 'out'- at nursery, or whatever.

And as for the living alone thing- she also has her baby to think of. Even if she hasn't bonded, she still wants the best for her, and while being with Qadim might make her miserable, he can provide for her daughter and make sure she grows up in security and wealth. What does Amira have to offer her? I'm sure this has been drummed into her, too. I'm sure she also feels massive guilt for not being overwhelmed by love for her, and feeling like she is defective in some way for being able to bonding, and I'm sure this has contributed to the whole 'damaged goods' feeling she has.

We said Johnny may not have known about amira when we done those interviews, so therefore strong and united wouldnt be about that:sleep:

Congrats on part 203 everyone

Awww


This! Glad you're feeling positive, I am too

Hey Stephness


Great post I feel really sad for Amira now Still don't like her though

I understand what you are saying, but surely she must know that the baby would be better off away from her father (i mean Qadim),

I know someone who left and took her baby, even though she had little money, away from a father, she felt was a risk to her child. Better to be without money and away from Q horiible influence surely.

Hopefully she'll find her Christian one day

Yes, but his words to Indehed at the last meeting were in my mind positive and he had no reason to hype anything up. here he had in front of him a chryden, he new from before, from the thread. He had no reason to hype anything to her, he had hinted about the engagment to her before and i don't think he would mislead her on the second meeting.

I still think it applies, Johnny said he wants them to remain 'strong and united', whereas he said he knew that Amira wouldn't be turning up. 'Strong and united' was what Johnny wanted, not what was going to happen, I still think that's what he'd want now too.

LOL at this, now that really WAS teasing us! I honestly get the feeling some of it has been a bit of an in joke, A muslim going to the capital of gambling for his honeymoon, and having a wedding reception in a pub! Red herrings all over the shop.


Great post! I think her self confidence has been destroyed too. In a way, for a woman like her, who was so confident in her looks, such a 'princess' who sailed along blithely feeling she was irresistable to most men, (which was very much her original persona) - it couldn't have been a bigger blow. For a woman like that, who doesn't seem to have much of inner sense of self, who was very superficial, to have such a terrible shock, to be so crushed - would be devastating. I'm not saying this to be bitchy, just objective. And her treatment by her father, that is very damaging, to have such things said, pretty darn awful. Without getting too personal, I have been on the receiving end of such attitudes from my own family, so believe me I know how it feels, I can relate. A long time ago, but when you are young, it's really nasty.

I think it would be great if her character grew. In fact now I feel it's essential - when you think about it, unless Amira does grow, it's going to be impossible for Chryed to have a good outcome. I think she will meet someone else once on the square, something - not yet revealed - will take things in a very different direction to the audience's assumption that there will be a reconciliation between her and Syed.

As Clarkeyfangirl has said - we are just starting off, there is a long way to go.


Ah....interesting.....I shall go and have a look.