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Old 08-09-2011, 23:43
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I'm waiting for the comments that Christian training Ben is responsible for him becoming gay
Is there a waiting for Buncan to get it on thread?
Buncan That sounds a little too much like bunion Like Symira sounds like an STI
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:43
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Is the baby who plays Kamil related to Amira's baby? They're identical.
I thought they looked really similar too. I wondered if they were brother and sister!
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:44
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Buncan That sounds a little too much like bunion Like Symira sounds like an STI
Apt seeing as it's like a disease :sleep:
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:44
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:45
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I'm waiting for the comments that Christian training Ben is responsible for him becoming gay
There probably already is. Okay, so Steven, Syed, Ben so far. Who's next? He really does need to turn down that camp dial! :sleep:
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:45
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Omg, that would literally be the most depressing storyline for a character ever. First of all, her dad gets arrested, her friends and family all turn against her. She meets the 'man of her dreams', he turns out to be gay. She spends 18 months as a virtual prisoner, with a baby she never wanted and a psycho father. She returns to Albert Square, finds her husband in a committed relationship with another man, and realises they're never going to happen. Then she dies. Makes Ronnie's storylines look positively cheerful- at least she had Jack!

But, nah, this'll never happen. Amira is virtually guaranteed a happy ending at this point.
Tell me about it.

I want something positive to come out of this story for Amira, just like it has for Christian and Syed. I don't want her leaving the show a victim, or worse in a casket! If she does die, it will only make Christian and Syed look worse. I can't see Syed ever getting over the guilt either. I'd really love to see Amira stand up on her own two feet and stand up to her oppressive father. Hopefully she can find her strength and outright say, she is not damaged goods and has done nothing. She deserves a life and one day someone will love her - someone who loves her the way they should. It's important that all three characters are able to move on. I don't expect Amira to ever get over it but if the viewers can see she has a bright future, we'd know she'll be ok. Regardless of what's happened to her, she can come out. It would be lovely if Amira’s stint ended with her giving Chryed her blessing for their wedding. That would be poetic for all three of them and show how much the story has evolved.
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:45
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Well, I think the gifts thing is the way that Qadim shows not only his love for her, but his control over her. Like "how could you possibly think I'm keeping you prisoner when I buy you expensive phones and laptops?" I do think Amira would be unwise to reject the gifts, because she'd be made out to be ungrateful, and get a whole 'after everything I've done for you' speech. Also, there's nothing else in her life, at least laptops and phones give her something to do when the baby is 'out'- at nursery, or whatever.

And as for the living alone thing- she also has her baby to think of. Even if she hasn't bonded, she still wants the best for her, and while being with Qadim might make her miserable, he can provide for her daughter and make sure she grows up in security and wealth. What does Amira have to offer her? I'm sure this has been drummed into her, too. I'm sure she also feels massive guilt for not being overwhelmed by love for her, and feeling like she is defective in some way for being able to bonding, and I'm sure this has contributed to the whole 'damaged goods' feeling she has
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Brilliant post. Although I'd put the word 'love' in inverted comma's as a man like this, even if he thinks he loves his daughter, it is not love, only control. I just hate this kind of father daughter relationship, I got an almost creepy incest vibe implied when he said I am the only man etc.....ughg. And of course it also mirrors her life as a little girl, when she talked about how she only ever got bought expensive presents, but set fire to the rug to get attention.

Really good points about the bonding and yes, she may well feel inadequate over that too. And economically, it would be very hard for someone like her to find her way to independance, you can't just wave a magic wand and transform your personality, her original persona was very much that of someone who just wanted someone to take care of her, and she has been raised like this too, to be fair to her, from a very early age. And we don't yet know about these 'spies' - although we've seen glimpses of anger, she does seem pretty frightened.

I understand what you are saying, but surely she must know that the baby would be better off away from her father (i mean Qadim),

I know someone who left and took her baby, even though she had little money, away from a father, she felt was a risk to her child. Better to be without money and away from Q horiible influence surely
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And I reckon this will be the thing that might make her leave - after all - what kind of a life is her daughter going to have - is she going to be shut away like Amira, most likely, I would say. So maybe something happens that inspires her to escape. Something must happen to tip her over the edge. I hope we get to see the actual escape on screen!
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Is the baby who plays Kamil related to Amira's baby? They're identical.
I thought they looked really similar too. I wondered if they were brother and sister!
*Looks at photos * They're both adorable..../not helpful :sleep:
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I thought they looked really similar too. I wondered if they were brother and sister!
They've got very similar faces haven't they. Wouldn't be surprised if they were siblings!
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Poor beautiful boys *runs to look at happy pics!!*



OMG I love that ep Joey and Chandler were the true love story in Friends
Even if they go a bit sad again, I'm sure we'll have happy to look forward too.
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:46
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Tell me about it.

I want something positive to come out of this story for Amira, just like it has for Christian and Syed. I don't want her leaving the show a victim, or worse in a casket! If she does die, it will only make Christian and Syed look worse. I can't see Syed ever getting over the guilt either. I'd really love to see Amira stand up on her own two feet and stand up to her oppressive father. Hopefully she can find her strength and outright say, she is not damaged goods and has done nothing. She deserves a life and one day someone will love her - someone who loves her the way they should. It's important that all three characters are able to move on. I don't expect Amira to ever get over it but if the viewers can see she has a bright future, we'd know she'll be ok. Regardless of what's happened to her, she can come out. It would be lovely if Amira’s stint ended with her giving Chryed her blessing for their wedding. That would be poetic for all three of them and show how much the story has evolved.
Great post!! This is the type of 'empowerment' Amira needs and deserves
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There probably already is. Okay, so Steven, Syed, Ben so far. Who's next? He really does need to turn down that camp dial! :sleep:
It's all those Big Geh Pheromones :sleep::sleep:
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*Looks at photos * They're both adorable..../not helpful :sleep:
Awww, the little boy who plays Kamil loves Nitin, doesn't he So cute!
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:49
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There probably already is. Okay, so Steven, Syed, Ben so far. Who's next? He really does need to turn down that camp dial! :sleep:
In fairness, if I was a heterosexual man, I'd be tempted. :sleep:
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Awww, the little boy who plays Kamil loves Nitin, doesn't he So cute!
He really does!! Adorable
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:49
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I'm back, and possibly a little bit more calm.

You've gone through so many pages in the last couple of hours! Just discussing the eps?

Congrats on part 203, everyone!
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:50
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There probably already is. Okay, so Steven, Syed, Ben so far. Who's next? He really does need to turn down that camp dial! :sleep:
it goes young , older than previous, younger than previous, so need to be someone in the older than previous range(which isnt hard seeing as Ben is 15):sleep:
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Buncan That sounds a little too much like bunion Like Symira sounds like an STI
I must make an appointment with Dr. Khan for my regular Symira
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:52
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I must make an appointment with Dr. Khan for my regular Symira
If only Tanya had gone for her Symira she might not have cancer
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it goes young , older than previous, younger than previous, so need to be someone in the older than previous range(which isnt hard seeing as Ben is 15):sleep:
Alfie?
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:53
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I'm back, and possibly a little bit more calm.

You've gone through so many pages in the last couple of hours! Just discussing the eps?

Congrats on part 203, everyone!
Evening Yes, just lots of post ep discussion

I must make an appointment with Dr. Khan for my regular Symira
Hahahaha!!!!!!!
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:53
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:53
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Tell me about it.

I want something positive to come out of this story for Amira, just like it has for Christian and Syed. I don't want her leaving the show a victim, or worse in a casket! If she does die, it will only make Christian and Syed look worse. I can't see Syed ever getting over the guilt either. I'd really love to see Amira stand up on her own two feet and stand up to her oppressive father. Hopefully she can find her strength and outright say, she is not damaged goods and has done nothing. She deserves a life and one day someone will love her - someone who loves her the way they should. It's important that all three characters are able to move on. I don't expect Amira to ever get over it but if the viewers can see she has a bright future, we'd know she'll be ok. Regardless of what's happened to her, she can come out. It would be lovely if Amira’s stint ended with her giving Chryed her blessing for their wedding. That would be poetic for all three of them and show how much the story has evolved.
Exactly. Amira is the only person in the story who did nothing wrong, she deserves happiness. Syed and Christian went through the ringer, yes, but, like Christian said tonight, they 'found each other'. No matter what they went through, and how much guilt they still feel, they've experienced a lot of happiness and contentment that Amira hasn't. And she deserves to be, just as much as them. I really want her to realise she doesn't need a man (she went straight from her father's house to her husband's house, to keep the Friends references going) to be happy. Possibly if her father dies, she could get his money? I know that's not exactly independence, but it's the only way she's, realistically, going to be able to afford to live on her own (Syed can help, but he's not exactly rolling in it) Though if she found someone, I wouldn't complain either!

I think a non-sarcastic "I hope you and Christian will be very happy together" sentiment would be good bookending, really.


Really good points about the bonding and yes, she may well feel inadequate over that too. And economically, it would be very hard for someone like her to find her way to independance, you can't just wave a magic wand and transform your personality, her original persona was very much that of someone who just wanted someone to take care of her, and she has been raised like this too, to be fair to her, from a very early age. And we don't yet know about these 'spies' - although we've seen glimpses of anger, she does seem pretty frightened.
Great post (this must sound so hollow by now, but there've been so many tonight)!

Cut for space, but I especially like the paragraph I've left. So much so! Amira has been raised to believe she cannot stand on her own two feet- when this sort of upbringing is combined with the 'damaged goods' brainwashing, she's going to feel utterly incapable of ever being independent, as well as completely inadequate as a mother. She has never been independent, she has no concept of it. While Amira was a bit of a feminist's nightmare, she was like this at least partially because of her lack of mother figure and being raised by a cruel, cold man obsessed with the concepts of shame and pride. She was never made to feel like a person in her own right- the one time he was lovely to her (NYD) he was comparing her to her mother.
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:57
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I must make an appointment with Dr. Khan for my regular Symira
If only Tanya had gone for her Symira she might not have cancer
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Old 08-09-2011, 23:59
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It's all those Big Geh Pheromones :sleep::sleep:
Everything about Christian is big.

In fairness, if I was a heterosexual man, I'd be tempted. :sleep:
It's those hugely powerful pheremones.

Geh they may be, but they still get me anyway.
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