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Lana Del Rey - Video Games. Yay or Nay?
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Originally Posted by computersaysno:
“I saw this girl on a blog, saw her face and thought "Oh my god it's Natalie Portman with butchered lips". After seeing photos of her as Lizzie Grant, she had such an adorable looking smile. Why the hell did she... nevermind. So I actually decided to check out her music and then heard 'Video Games' featured in an episode of Ringer.
I have to say, never have I actually be stunned by an artist before. This girl is the real deal. Her voice is sooooo good. Such a talent.
2012. Here she comes. A star is born.
It is a little sad that she had to change her name but she is a breath of fresh air amongst the certain individuals who are still out there whoring music charts.”
“I saw this girl on a blog, saw her face and thought "Oh my god it's Natalie Portman with butchered lips". After seeing photos of her as Lizzie Grant, she had such an adorable looking smile. Why the hell did she... nevermind. So I actually decided to check out her music and then heard 'Video Games' featured in an episode of Ringer.
I have to say, never have I actually be stunned by an artist before. This girl is the real deal. Her voice is sooooo good. Such a talent.
2012. Here she comes. A star is born.
It is a little sad that she had to change her name but she is a breath of fresh air amongst the certain individuals who are still out there whoring music charts.”
She claims her lips are still her own, she just pouts when on camera more and has lost her baby fat on her face.
She hasn't changed her name. It's just a stage name. Like how Elton John is really Reg Dwight and Bono is really Paul Hewson, Lana Del Rey is really Lizzy Grant.
Originally Posted by Superbeast:
“She claims her lips are still her own, she just pouts when on camera more and has lost her baby fat on her face.”
“She claims her lips are still her own, she just pouts when on camera more and has lost her baby fat on her face.”
That's laughable really, she's not fooling anyone. I think the lips were a mistake. You don't really want to portray an image of fakeness or freakiness if you want to be thought of as a serious musician as it can detract from the music. I haven't been paying much attention to the criticism she's receiving but I know some of it is about her image and people finding the whole pouty sex kitten thing contrived and off-putting.
Originally Posted by Superbeast:
“She claims her lips are still her own, she just pouts when on camera more and has lost her baby fat on her face.
She hasn't changed her name. It's just a stage name. Like how Elton John is really Reg Dwight and Bono is really Paul Hewson, Lana Del Rey is really Lizzy Grant.”
“She claims her lips are still her own, she just pouts when on camera more and has lost her baby fat on her face.
She hasn't changed her name. It's just a stage name. Like how Elton John is really Reg Dwight and Bono is really Paul Hewson, Lana Del Rey is really Lizzy Grant.”
Reg Dwight legally changed his name to Elton Hercules John.
I really wish people would stop going on about Lana's lips. This kind of micro-nitpicking is often the reason that female performers have surgery in the first place.
And it's boring.
Originally Posted by Smudged:
“That's laughable really, she's not fooling anyone. I think the lips were a mistake. You don't really want to portray an image of fakeness or freakiness if you want to be thought of as a serious musician as it can detract from the music. I haven't been paying much attention to the criticism she's receiving but I know some of it is about her image and people finding the whole pouty sex kitten thing contrived and off-putting.”
“That's laughable really, she's not fooling anyone. I think the lips were a mistake. You don't really want to portray an image of fakeness or freakiness if you want to be thought of as a serious musician as it can detract from the music. I haven't been paying much attention to the criticism she's receiving but I know some of it is about her image and people finding the whole pouty sex kitten thing contrived and off-putting.”
I am willing to take her word for it. She had big lips before when she was bleached blonde, now they just stand out more because her face is thinner than it was years ago since she's grown up so they seem more pronounced.
Also I think you are forcing your views on the issue a bit here, contrived pouty sex kitten? She's not laying top of pianos in dresses with leg slits up to her thigh. Her live performances so far have shown her wearing shorts and a top and a blouse, tights, skirt and heels. Hardly Shirley Bassey diva outfits. Really think you're seeing things you want to see in this instance.
Her lips are not right and make it difficult to watch her performances. I feel sorry for her in a way.
Originally Posted by Superbeast:
“I am willing to take her word for it. She had big lips before when she was bleached blonde, now they just stand out more because her face is thinner than it was years ago since she's grown up so they seem more pronounced.
Also I think you are forcing your views on the issue a bit here, contrived pouty sex kitten? She's not laying top of pianos in dresses with leg slits up to her thigh. Her live performances so far have shown her wearing shorts and a top and a blouse, tights, skirt and heels. Hardly Shirley Bassey diva outfits. Really think you're seeing things you want to see in this instance.”
“I am willing to take her word for it. She had big lips before when she was bleached blonde, now they just stand out more because her face is thinner than it was years ago since she's grown up so they seem more pronounced.
Also I think you are forcing your views on the issue a bit here, contrived pouty sex kitten? She's not laying top of pianos in dresses with leg slits up to her thigh. Her live performances so far have shown her wearing shorts and a top and a blouse, tights, skirt and heels. Hardly Shirley Bassey diva outfits. Really think you're seeing things you want to see in this instance.”
Those lips aren't natural. A person's lips don't suddenly become much larger by losing a bit of weight and you can't pout that much and sing at the same time. People are going to comment on them because it's the first thing you notice about her. That's why I think they were a mistake (plus she would look more attractive without them).
Go back and read what I said about her image. I was talking about the negative reaction I've seen from other people. Here's an example of some of the criticism she's getting from the blogosphere. I was pointing out that some of the criticism is related to her image rather than the music. I'm ambivalent towards her at the moment because i've only heard a few songs that I think are good but time will tell.
Originally Posted by Smudged:
“Those lips aren't natural. A person's lips don't suddenly become much larger by losing a bit of weight and you can't pout that much and sing at the same time. People are going to comment on them because it's the first thing you notice about her. That's why I think they were a mistake (plus she would look more attractive without them).
Go back and read what I said about her image. I was talking about the negative reaction I've seen from other people. Here's an example of some of the criticism she's getting from the blogosphere. I was pointing out that some of the criticism is related to her image rather than the music. I'm ambivalent towards her at the moment because i've only heard a few songs that I think are good but time will tell.”
“Those lips aren't natural. A person's lips don't suddenly become much larger by losing a bit of weight and you can't pout that much and sing at the same time. People are going to comment on them because it's the first thing you notice about her. That's why I think they were a mistake (plus she would look more attractive without them).
Go back and read what I said about her image. I was talking about the negative reaction I've seen from other people. Here's an example of some of the criticism she's getting from the blogosphere. I was pointing out that some of the criticism is related to her image rather than the music. I'm ambivalent towards her at the moment because i've only heard a few songs that I think are good but time will tell.”
She can't pout and sing at the same time? Watch her performance of Blue Jeans at Premises Studio. I think you'll find she can do both at the same time.
So regardless of what she says, you'll she's got botoxed lips or filled in lips? Even though she's only 25 and if she had botoxed lips, she'd not be able to sing properly because her lips would be partially paralysed? Your opinion doesn't seem to make sense in light of medical facts relating to botox's effects. If she tried to sing with botoxed lips or filled lips she'd sound like she'd got a novocaine injection and be all slurry.
No one ever accused Lana Turner or Mimi Van Doren of surgery when they were still young and beautiful, is it not possible for people to just naturally have pronounced features? I mean, I don't run up to every person I see with a large Roman nose screaming "you get that from a costume shop?" just because it looks a tad ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Superbeast:
“She can't pout and sing at the same time? Watch her performance of Blue Jeans at Premises Studio. I think you'll find she can do both at the same time.
So regardless of what she says, you'll she's got botoxed lips or filled in lips? Even though she's only 25 and if she had botoxed lips, she'd not be able to sing properly because her lips would be partially paralysed? Your opinion doesn't seem to make sense in light of medical facts relating to botox's effects. If she tried to sing with botoxed lips or filled lips she'd sound like she'd got a novocaine injection and be all slurry.”
“She can't pout and sing at the same time? Watch her performance of Blue Jeans at Premises Studio. I think you'll find she can do both at the same time.
So regardless of what she says, you'll she's got botoxed lips or filled in lips? Even though she's only 25 and if she had botoxed lips, she'd not be able to sing properly because her lips would be partially paralysed? Your opinion doesn't seem to make sense in light of medical facts relating to botox's effects. If she tried to sing with botoxed lips or filled lips she'd sound like she'd got a novocaine injection and be all slurry.”
She's not pouting because whatever she's had done to her lips gives her a permanent pout. That's why she appears to be pouting all he time. There's only one explanantion as to why someone's lips have suddenly grown bigger even if you don't want to admit it.
The lips don't really bother me as it doesn't affect her voice or the music. My only opinion is that it's a shame as it makes her look less attractive than she would naturally but maybe other people like that look and think she looks better.
Live in Manchester last night. Love it. Obviously nowhere near as nervous as on Jools. My prediction would be July 2012 when we first see the first 'Anyone else sick of Lana Del Rey?' thread 
Video Games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OnJFwdNvKk
Blue Jeans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIXAIylT_dI
Video Games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OnJFwdNvKk
Blue Jeans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIXAIylT_dI
This amazing song has actually climbed in the UK singles chart this week, from #15 to #12! Amazing considering the sort of stuff that dominates in there at the moment. Having seen its current position on Amazon's best sellers list, I think her album is going to be a very big seller here (unless she cocks it up by releasing an awful single between now and the end of January 2012, of course. I call it the Well Well Well Syndrome). There's clearly massive interest in her - her Jools Holland youtube views are huge.
This girl is all over the radio and will probably be all over TV soon as well.
She has got a great voice, I love her voice... but seriously woman cheer the **** up.
Your single "video games" is single most depressing dirge I've heard in a long time.
She has got a great voice, I love her voice... but seriously woman cheer the **** up.
Your single "video games" is single most depressing dirge I've heard in a long time.
It's great that she seems to be proving herself live IMO. Very positive review of her Glasgow gig here:
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/mu...sgow_1_1952426
Quote:
“If Lana Del Rey is feeling the pressure of her seemingly overnight but carefully constructed You Tube-built success, she doesn’t show it on stage.
Or it could just have been the perfectly-timed shout of “On yersel’ Lana” from the audience that helped dispel any nerves.
Video Games, her ode to being ignored and the exquisite pain of clutching at an illusion of happiness, and the equally plaintive B-side Blue Jeans, a love letter to a departed gangster, have clocked up over 6.5 million Youtube views in under two months. Expectations of her live performances, not tempered by rife internet discussion questioning her authenticity, are high.
So it is deeply satisfying that her voice sounded exactly as it does on record, with the same gut-wrenching catches and soaring pleas, alternating between deep and powerful, and raspy and fragile, the perfect embodiment of her defiantly heartbroken lyrics. On Radio, a rare moment of happiness, she sings about days that are ‘sweet like cinnamon’ and the description fits her voice too, which veers between syrupy and steely, languorous and raw. She describes her music as ‘Hollywood pop/sadcore’ and it melts seamlessly between hip hop beats, 90s pop and 60s girl group.
Much has been made of her glamourous looks and chola-meets-Brigitte Bardot styling, but the most striking aspect of her glamour is her use of it in the old sense, as a mask for sadness, an enchantment intended to conceal and deceive. The bulk of her lyrics speak of a damaged person in the soul-destroying act of trying to convince themselves they are happy, accepting love that is essentially meaningless however alluring - all melancholy and mascara running, fast cars and bad boys and the bittersweetness of the American Dream.....
Rating: **** (4)
(cont)”
“If Lana Del Rey is feeling the pressure of her seemingly overnight but carefully constructed You Tube-built success, she doesn’t show it on stage.
Or it could just have been the perfectly-timed shout of “On yersel’ Lana” from the audience that helped dispel any nerves.
Video Games, her ode to being ignored and the exquisite pain of clutching at an illusion of happiness, and the equally plaintive B-side Blue Jeans, a love letter to a departed gangster, have clocked up over 6.5 million Youtube views in under two months. Expectations of her live performances, not tempered by rife internet discussion questioning her authenticity, are high.
So it is deeply satisfying that her voice sounded exactly as it does on record, with the same gut-wrenching catches and soaring pleas, alternating between deep and powerful, and raspy and fragile, the perfect embodiment of her defiantly heartbroken lyrics. On Radio, a rare moment of happiness, she sings about days that are ‘sweet like cinnamon’ and the description fits her voice too, which veers between syrupy and steely, languorous and raw. She describes her music as ‘Hollywood pop/sadcore’ and it melts seamlessly between hip hop beats, 90s pop and 60s girl group.
Much has been made of her glamourous looks and chola-meets-Brigitte Bardot styling, but the most striking aspect of her glamour is her use of it in the old sense, as a mask for sadness, an enchantment intended to conceal and deceive. The bulk of her lyrics speak of a damaged person in the soul-destroying act of trying to convince themselves they are happy, accepting love that is essentially meaningless however alluring - all melancholy and mascara running, fast cars and bad boys and the bittersweetness of the American Dream.....
Rating: **** (4)
(cont)”
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/mu...sgow_1_1952426
It's a fantastic song! I totally love the video for it too. She looks very old school Hollywood and glamourous in it. Really like her voice. Unique and interesting.
I'm excited to see what comes next from her and whether she's going to make it big.
I'm excited to see what comes next from her and whether she's going to make it big.
I love Video Games song and the video too. By the way, I think that she edited the video herself. Don't you find it amazing?
Lana is getting some amazing live reviews for her recent Scala gig. Here's a 4 star one from the Guardian. I genuinely think she will be absolutely huge next year.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011...?newsfeed=true
Others:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...on-review.html
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/...la---review.do
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...la-London.html
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/enterta...e-review-scala
Quote:
“Lana Del Rey – review
Scala, London
4 stars out of 5
Caroline Sullivan
Thursday 17 November 2011 18.30 GMT
Video Games, slow and mournful, was the crowdpleaser, but the country lament Radio and the tense, half-rapped You Can Be the Boss – the latter supporting her claim to be "the gangsta Nancy Sinatra" – were even more affecting. There's something real, and rather special, here.”
“Lana Del Rey – review
Scala, London
4 stars out of 5
Caroline Sullivan
Thursday 17 November 2011 18.30 GMT
Video Games, slow and mournful, was the crowdpleaser, but the country lament Radio and the tense, half-rapped You Can Be the Boss – the latter supporting her claim to be "the gangsta Nancy Sinatra" – were even more affecting. There's something real, and rather special, here.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011...?newsfeed=true
Others:
Quote:
“It was short but sweet and enough to prove that behind the hype, Lana del Ray is a real talent with plenty to prove next year.”
“It was short but sweet and enough to prove that behind the hype, Lana del Ray is a real talent with plenty to prove next year.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...on-review.html
Quote:
“But given time to develop at a more sensible pace, Lana Del Rey could yet be as special as she looks.”
“But given time to develop at a more sensible pace, Lana Del Rey could yet be as special as she looks.”
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/...la---review.do
Quote:
“Rihanna and Lady Gaga have been busy gyrating their way around the world over the past few years.
So it was a genuine pleasure to see something so simple leaving a bit more to the imagination.
Lana is on a winner. She will be huge.”
“Rihanna and Lady Gaga have been busy gyrating their way around the world over the past few years.
So it was a genuine pleasure to see something so simple leaving a bit more to the imagination.
Lana is on a winner. She will be huge.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...la-London.html
Quote:
“"Born to Die", her next single, and apparently her "favourite one", is a nihilistic subversion of a Springsteen-ian road song and enough on its own to prove "Video Games" was no fluke. Undoubtedly part of the audience's fun stemmed from knowing that they were seeing the former Lizzy Grant singing alone, with a small band, in an intimate venue, when it's so easy to imagine her with backing singers and orchestras. Whether that comes next is up to her. She's settled her nerves, she's got the key and she's just getting started.”
“"Born to Die", her next single, and apparently her "favourite one", is a nihilistic subversion of a Springsteen-ian road song and enough on its own to prove "Video Games" was no fluke. Undoubtedly part of the audience's fun stemmed from knowing that they were seeing the former Lizzy Grant singing alone, with a small band, in an intimate venue, when it's so easy to imagine her with backing singers and orchestras. Whether that comes next is up to her. She's settled her nerves, she's got the key and she's just getting started.”
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/enterta...e-review-scala
Some articles about her :-
Why the Indie Music World Hates Lana Del Rey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lana_Del_Rey#cite_note-2
The Question of Authenticity and Lana Del Rey
Some questioning articles about her - no wonder she's so nervous looking when she performs.Modeling herself on Britney Spears to Sadcore / Melancholic pop / Baroque pop ? is a big switch.You'd think since she signed for a Major label it would be the other way round.The music industry is getting harder to predict it seems.
Don't mind Video games actually as I am quite drawn to melancholic music, although heard better voices / better sentiment expressed than in this song.Can see why some people are drawn to this song.Not so sure about other songs I've heard though. 'Blue Jeans' sounds like a partial rip-off of Chris Isaacs - 'Wicked Games' to me.
Why the Indie Music World Hates Lana Del Rey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lana_Del_Rey#cite_note-2
The Question of Authenticity and Lana Del Rey
Some questioning articles about her - no wonder she's so nervous looking when she performs.Modeling herself on Britney Spears to Sadcore / Melancholic pop / Baroque pop ? is a big switch.You'd think since she signed for a Major label it would be the other way round.The music industry is getting harder to predict it seems.
Don't mind Video games actually as I am quite drawn to melancholic music, although heard better voices / better sentiment expressed than in this song.Can see why some people are drawn to this song.Not so sure about other songs I've heard though. 'Blue Jeans' sounds like a partial rip-off of Chris Isaacs - 'Wicked Games' to me.
Video games is the dullest, most pretentious piece of rubbish I've heard in ages. All the hype around her is just the typical music press 'emperor's new clothes' mentality.
If I wanted to Listen to songs with harps in the background and stuff I'd put Florence and the Machine on.
In other words, what she's doing has already been done.
My opinion, anyway. Take it or leave it
If I wanted to Listen to songs with harps in the background and stuff I'd put Florence and the Machine on.
In other words, what she's doing has already been done.
My opinion, anyway. Take it or leave it
Great to see this amazing song get the recognition it deserves. It's the Guardian music critic's song of 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musi...=ILCMUSTXT9383
Quote:
“1 Lana Del Rey – Video Games
2 Azealia Banks – 212
3 Tyler, the Creator – Yonkers
4 Joe Goddard – Gabriel ft Valentina
5 Frank Ocean – Swim Good
6 Nicki Minaj – Super Bass
7 Beyoncé – Countdown
8 Adele – Rolling in the Deep (Jamie xx Remix)
9 Rihanna – We Found Love
10 A$AP Rocky – Peso
11 Tune-Yards – Bizness
12 PJ Harvey – The Words That Maketh Murder
13 St Vincent – Surgeon
14 Nicola Roberts – Dance to the Beat of My Drum
15 Battles – Ice Cream
16 Gang Gang Dance – Glass Jar
17 Michael Kiwanuka – I'm Getting Ready
18 Lady Gaga – Born This Way
19 Anna Calvi – Blackout
20 Cults – Go Outside
21 Wilco – One Sunday Morning
22 Junior Boys – Banana Ripple
23 Lykke Li – Sadness Is a Blessing
24 Drake ft Rihanna – Take Care
25 Metronomy – The Look
26 Willy Moon – I Wanna Be Your Man
27 Rustie – Ultra Thizz
28 James Blake – The Wilhelm Scream
29 The Horrors – Still Life
30 Beyoncé – 1+1
31 Jamie xx and Gil Scott Heron – I'm New Here
32 lll Blu – Meltdown
33 Cloud Nothings – Heartbeat
34 Maria Minerva – A Little Lonely
35 Machine Head – Darkness Within
36 Diddy Dirty Money – Coming Home
37 June Tabor & Oysterband – Fountains Flowing
38 Radiohead – Morning Mr Magpie
39 Canibus – Brainwash Reversal Remix
40 King Krule – Bleak Bake”
“1 Lana Del Rey – Video Games
2 Azealia Banks – 212
3 Tyler, the Creator – Yonkers
4 Joe Goddard – Gabriel ft Valentina
5 Frank Ocean – Swim Good
6 Nicki Minaj – Super Bass
7 Beyoncé – Countdown
8 Adele – Rolling in the Deep (Jamie xx Remix)
9 Rihanna – We Found Love
10 A$AP Rocky – Peso
11 Tune-Yards – Bizness
12 PJ Harvey – The Words That Maketh Murder
13 St Vincent – Surgeon
14 Nicola Roberts – Dance to the Beat of My Drum
15 Battles – Ice Cream
16 Gang Gang Dance – Glass Jar
17 Michael Kiwanuka – I'm Getting Ready
18 Lady Gaga – Born This Way
19 Anna Calvi – Blackout
20 Cults – Go Outside
21 Wilco – One Sunday Morning
22 Junior Boys – Banana Ripple
23 Lykke Li – Sadness Is a Blessing
24 Drake ft Rihanna – Take Care
25 Metronomy – The Look
26 Willy Moon – I Wanna Be Your Man
27 Rustie – Ultra Thizz
28 James Blake – The Wilhelm Scream
29 The Horrors – Still Life
30 Beyoncé – 1+1
31 Jamie xx and Gil Scott Heron – I'm New Here
32 lll Blu – Meltdown
33 Cloud Nothings – Heartbeat
34 Maria Minerva – A Little Lonely
35 Machine Head – Darkness Within
36 Diddy Dirty Money – Coming Home
37 June Tabor & Oysterband – Fountains Flowing
38 Radiohead – Morning Mr Magpie
39 Canibus – Brainwash Reversal Remix
40 King Krule – Bleak Bake”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musi...=ILCMUSTXT9383
I have managed (somehow) to completely avoid this girl despite the hype. Finally listened to Video Games and I like very much.
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