I agree with you abut that wrestling clip Veri.

In the longer online version it was evidently a lot of fun for them.
In the HL show it came across as just highlighting a sense of friction and bitchiness between them.

You do get people who say "Ah, but they can't show what they didn't say or do. They did say or do those things".
But that wrestling clip was a very good example of how what was actually said or done can be distorted by what they don't show, and thus influence the perception a viewer will have of a scene.

I don't think that the show would have made Faye look terrible, but I know that with other housemates BB can make them look like saints.
So in relative terms it might matter a lot in such a context where we compare housemates with each other.

I was disappointed they didn't show the wrestling clip but I didn't think the boxing stuff made either of them look bad.

I thought it was good that they were showing them training together as they hardly ever show Faye working out.

Hello everyone!I'm quite sure Faye is safe!I'll be voting for her as well as Aaron.I like them both!

I would be very surprised if Faye goes Friday, It looks a bit dodgy next week though I think they both might be up together.

My prediction for next week, assuming Anton goes, is Aden with 7 votes and Jay and Louise with 3.

I see Faye and Aaron on 2 votes and Harry on 1.

Thankfully, Faye going Friday is a near impossibility: she's 25-1 and drifting, which in Big Brother eviction terms means that she's got about as much chance of going as Alex does of becoming the next Prime Minister.

In the coming weeks though - and I know this would take a degree of strategizing which isn't her - it would be really good for her to get involved in playtime with Alex & Tom (which would be fun anyway). If she does, and can keep their nominations focused on Jay, Aden, Louise & Jem, then the final is a big possibility. If she sticks to big sis and Aaron, then I can see her eventually being up against Jay or Aaron, and that would be that.

The only worry I have is Alex and Tom voting for Faye after this food fiasco.

That sounds good to me, I dont expect her to be in until the end but as long as possible is the name of the game.

If they both survive this week,and they hear the boos for anton and aden.there is no way they will both be up next week,1 of them at most i think,meaning we can concentrate on saving one instead of two....up against aden or anton.that should be easy enough to pull off.

I'm not sure who i want out this week.Anton has targeted Aaron and Aden has targeted Faye it seems.I just dont understand why anton is such a favourite to go.the bad guy will always pick up votes.I don't see Aden picking up many

Adens odds are getting ever nearer to Antons at this rate its going to be close.

I do think that odds to evict on a vote to save aren't going to be as reliable as usual because the people putting money down are putting it down on who they think will be evicted but when they vote they will not be voting for all four of the others so where the money is going doesn't really translate to where the votes are going.

I'm not sure Aden would vote Faye next week but I'm sure Anton would so, for Faye's sake, I'd prefer Anton to go.

Same here he needs to be out this week.

Anton is so jealous of Aaron with Faye and is taking it out on Faye even if his dislike is for Aaron......Anton has to go.

i wasent a fan of faye last week because she nominated aaron but im a big fan now antons ganging up on aaron arden against faye jays going to flip soon over the food the wolf pack are falling apart there true colours are about to show hehe

It will depend on how many of the bets are from people who've correctly thought through the implications of it being vote-to-save with so many up. Since that sort of vote has been unusual in BB up 'till now, it's certainly possible that the betters aren't as good at reading it as they'd be for an old-style eviction.

And in any case, whatever the punters predict with their bets, it takes votes to make it happen, so we still have to vote.

Also, let's face it, every single BB or CBB eviction vote since BB moved to C5 has evicted a woman, and bb12 has the record for the number of women in a row evicted via votes (4).

Finally, there are still three highlights shows and three days of tweets and online clips to go. The highlights always make Faye look worse compared to the clips; they keep including things that are known to turn people off Faye, and they keep leaving out things that show other sides to her. (But even in the clips, people regularly find things they hold against Faye. There are some people such as Vauxhall Nova doing a good job of defending her in the forum, but defence is necessary: she's continually being attacked.)

So I cannot be at all comfortable about this eviction until I see someone else actually sitting in the chair opposite Brian.

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On the other hand, the odds at least make sense. We aren't left scratching our heads and going "how can they possibly think ..."

Compare the poll in our forum where Jay looks 2nd most likely to go, and only Aden has fewer votes. Well, we know some reasons why Jay's unpopular here, but it's still hard to believe the general public give him so little support.

Meanwhile, there are some interesting poll results here

Eek yes - it's not looking good for next Monday. I can see Faye being up every week from now on . Let's just hope Anton goes Friday (I'm actually looking forward to his farewell message in a perverse way) and that, if she's up next week, it'll only be against Aden

I still don't understand why they are blaming Faye. I haven't been able to see any videos because I've been at work but surely Faye had to leave the area as she was successfully rescued so how is she to blame in any way if the others decide to leave as well?

She is to blame by association and defending her man seems to be the only reason I can see.

It's difficult to work it out. I don't think even the clips tell the whole story. People are relying on live update tweets for some of it, at least for what happened last night.

But it seems that Aden for some reason blamed Faye. Faye was upset and had a go at Aden seemingly for looking at her. And then Tom had a go at Faye for that -- to cheers from many in the forum.

But I can't verify how much of that's true because I haven't watched the clips and and I certainly haven't read all the tweets.

It would be great if someone who knew more could fill us in.

Aden was in a huff about the lack of cigarettes on the food budget and didn't take kindly to Aaron's suggestion that he give up smoking for Rebeckah. He then went on a bit of a rant and Faye took some of his comments about the task failure as being directed at her - she was a bit prickly about it, unfortunately. Tom then got engulfed in their argument, and it all got a bit petty and unnecessary between the two of them.

There'll be plenty of material there that can make Faye look bad in the highlights.

1606: Faye is trying to find out how many times Aaron has kissed other house mates.#BBUKLIVE

Is this just a bit of fun or is she having another episode? Will there be tears or laughter?

Which way is it going to go?

I still don't know what to make of him holding up four fingers during the stranded extra supplies clip - was it a wind-up or an admission of something we don't know about? He said at one point, when they were trying the lock "Do we even need to open this?"

You'd think the combination lock incident would have confirmed that it was three

Although Aaron did hold up four fingers at one point.

I figured that was either a wind-up or maybe the rumoured Rebeckah snog was real. Still BB said it was three so I'd be surprised if Faye was really still unsure.

Regards

Julian