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***Faye Appreciation Thread***
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chris_sw
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Mr_X_123:
“He didn't actually quite say that.

He's under the wrong Jay-fuelled impression that Alex would go in a public vote, and therefore wanted to get her to the final but thinks Faye would survive on her own merits anyways.”

Sorry, but I disagree. The implication was that Faye would only be deserving of a place if she beats Louise. Why Aaron thinks Alex needs protection from the crowd but Faye doesn't is beyond me. You protect your loved ones, or your love is worthless. There is no way that Tom wouldn't put Alex first and vice versa, that Jay wouldn't put Louise first and vice versa or that Faye wouldn't have put Aaron first.
BMLisa
01-11-2011
Am hoping Aaron does something lovely for Faye's birthday as that is what will be shown on Thursday night. Thursday is the most important night edit wise!

Knowing our luck they'll just gloss over Faye's birthday entirely!

C'mon BB it's tinme for Aaron's secret task!
BMLisa
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by chris_sw:
“Sorry, but I disagree. The implication was that Faye would only be deserving of a place if she beats Louise. Why Aaron thinks Alex needs protection from the crowd but Faye doesn't is beyond me. You protect your loved ones, or your love is worthless. There is no way that Tom wouldn't put Alex first and vice versa, that Jay wouldn't put Louise first and vice versa or that Faye wouldn't have put Aaron first.”

I think Aaron's feelings for Faye are genuine, but he is playing the game to win in there! I agree with the theory that he is splitting the geordie vote, knowing that jay will get through!

I think he thought no one would notice what he'd done. he genuinely didn't expect Faye v Lou!

He totally put his foot in it explaining to Faye, but I genuinely believe that he was just making excuses as to why he''d saved Alex.

He can't tell Faye what he's doing becasue 1) She's a blabbermouth when she's in a mood with him and 2) I don't think she'd like him playing the game no matter how clever it is! She's more one of those in it for the experience types. She was happy for all 5 to go up and she must have thought she was likely to go!
Vanessa73
01-11-2011
Hello Faye fans! Us Aaron fans will help save her! Louise is a sneaky one. She did the same as Aaron,but never got any hassle.
Mr_X_123
01-11-2011
The only person Faye should have been upset with was Louise! Who blatantly and deliberately put her up, like she has every week.

Faye needs to realise that Jay and Louise are her enemies not her friends.

And that throughout despite disagreements, Aaron has stood by her!
Vanessa73
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Mr_X_123:
“The only person Faye should have been upset with was Louise! Who blatantly and deliberately put her up, like she has every week.

Faye needs to realise that Jay and Louise are her enemies not her friends.

And that throughout despite disagreements, Aaron has stood by her!”

That's what makes me mad! It's Louise who nommed Faye,not Aaron. Anyway, we need to save Faye. Louise is being sneaky!
Heaven Scent
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Mr_X_123:
“The only person Faye should have been upset with was Louise! Who blatantly and deliberately put her up, like she has every week.

Faye needs to realise that Jay and Louise are her enemies not her friends.

And that throughout despite disagreements, Aaron has stood by her!”

Faye seems to have forgotten seeing Louise voting for her on the plasma and was going to vote for her that week.
Thrombin
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Heaven Scent:
“Faye seems to have forgotten seeing Louise voting for her on the plasma and was going to vote for her that week.”

Everyone has to nominate, they have all grown closer over time. It's possible to like someone least out of six people but still like them and they both know that.
chris_sw
01-11-2011
First betting Market has opened:

Louise 1/6
Faye 7/2

By those odds, Louise is toast. I know the bookies have got the last three evictions very wrong, but they were all multi-way.
Vanessa73
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by chris_sw:
“First betting Market has opened:

Louise 1/6
Faye 7/2

By those odds, Louise is toast. I know the bookies have got the last three evictions very wrong, but they were all multi-way.”

You have us Aaron fans support! We're all voting to save Faye! Let's get sneaky Louise out!
JJJ_Girl
01-11-2011
Huge Aaron fan here, but I'm voting for Faye this week. She definitely needs to stay in for the final week!
CLL Dodge
01-11-2011
Votes for Louise would be overwhelmingly tactical. Faye's support is larger and more likely to multi-vote to get her into that final.
lisa1972
01-11-2011
done some votes for Faye this morning, hope she stays x
Heaven Scent
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by lisa1972:
“done some votes for Faye this morning, hope she stays x”

Same here I will send some every day this week.
Veri
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by PigsMightFly:
“I am an Aaron fan too and I will be voting for Faye - Louise and her saintly "I sacrificied myself so that Tom and Alex could go through to the final" act doesn't fool me - she just voted for Faye out of spite and - I don't honestly think she realised that by doing so only her and Faye would be up!!

Faye is a nice, fun girl and deserves to make the final ”

That whole "sacrificed" line is very annoying. She didn't sacrifice herself: she was up anyway. And she's nominated Faye every single week it's been possible to do so, starting in week 4.
Veri
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“I think Aaron's feelings for Faye are genuine, but he is playing the game to win in there! I agree with the theory that he is splitting the geordie vote, knowing that jay will get through!

I think he thought no one would notice what he'd done. he genuinely didn't expect Faye v Lou!

He totally put his foot in it explaining to Faye, but I genuinely believe that he was just making excuses as to why he''d saved Alex.

He can't tell Faye what he's doing becasue 1) She's a blabbermouth when she's in a mood with him and 2) I don't think she'd like him playing the game no matter how clever it is! She's more one of those in it for the experience types. She was happy for all 5 to go up and she must have thought she was likely to go!”

And 3) if a possible advantage for himself in the final is more important to Aaron than Faye reaching the final, that would hurt as much as Aaron thinking it was more important to get Alex there because Alex was more deserving or because it mattered more to Alex.

It's not just that he'd be playing the game, he'd in effect be picking the game -- really just a possible advantage in the game -- over her.
Bluestone
01-11-2011
I'm an Aaron fan reporting for duty.

I will be voting for Faye to stay- multiple votes.

Heaven Scent
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Bluestone:
“I'm an Aaron fan reporting for duty.

I will be voting for Faye to stay- multiple votes.

”

Grand job.
Black Dagger
01-11-2011
Thank you Aaron fans <3.

She has to stay this week, it'll be a travesty if she goes over the walking brick.
BMLisa
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Veri:
“And 3) if a possible advantage for himself in the final is more important to Aaron than Faye reaching the final, that would hurt as much as Aaron thinking it was more important to get Alex there because Alex was more deserving or because it mattered more to Alex.

It's not just that he'd be playing the game, he'd in effect be picking the game -- really just a possible advantage in the game -- over her.”


Exactly but I think in reality he thinks he can play the game and continue with Faye on the outside and I have no problem with this either, that is what he went in for. I don't feel that he needs to show her she is more important than the game, he can show her how important she is out of the house!
BMLisa
01-11-2011
I don't think he should have to sacrifice the game to prove to people outside how much he likes Faye is what I'm trying to say!
Veri
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Mr_X_123:
“The only person Faye should have been upset with was Louise! Who blatantly and deliberately put her up, like she has every week.

Faye needs to realise that Jay and Louise are her enemies not her friends.

And that throughout despite disagreements, Aaron has stood by her!”

Aaron's stood by her, but now it seems he's also picked Alex over her. That's the problem, rather than the mere fact that Aaron departed from the plan that would have given everyone equal nominations.

I think chris_sw is right. Faye under-reacted, if anything. Aaron didn't say it in so many words, but that's what it amounts to when various things are put together: "if he had the power to save her the stress of facing eviction and to protect her from the baying crowd that terrifies her, he would instead save Alex because Faye isn't as deserving as she is."

Originally Posted by Mr_X_123:
“He didn't actually quite say that.

He's under the wrong Jay-fuelled impression that Alex would go in a public vote, and therefore wanted to get her to the final but thinks Faye would survive on her own merits anyways.”

Well, (1), so what if Alex would be in danger? So what if Alex would go? How did Alex, and Alex reaching the final, suddenly become so important to Aaron?

(2) How deserving can Alex be if she couldn't survive even one vote when 5 or 6 HMs were up?

And (3) does it really make sense that he thinks Alex is in danger? Why would be believe anything Jay said? Even if Jay is telling the truth as he sees it, about what he saw from the crypt, he could have been influenced by whatever spin Anton put on it. And surely, as an experienced BB-watcher, Aaron knows the crowd noise can be misleading.

I still like Aaron, but I am finding him very frustrating at the moment.

And the way Aaron's being defended is all over the place. Some say he saved Alex because he sees her as his strongest competitor, and he's such a BB purist that he thinks the strongest HMs should be in the final. Meanwhile, others say he saved Alex because he thinks Alex is so weak as competition that she'd be voted out even with 5 or 6 HMs up. Still others say he saved her so that she and Jay would split the Geordie vote. Or maybe Aaron made a mistake counting votes but doesn't want to admit it. I've seen that one too. And then there's the theory that Alex is so wonderfully deserving that of course anyone with integrity would put her interests first.

The fact is, none of us know why Aaron did it.
Heaven Scent
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Aaron's stood by her, but now it seems he's also picked Alex over her. That's the problem, rather than the mere fact that Aaron departed from the plan that would have given everyone equal nominations.

I think chris_sw is right. Faye under-reacted, if anything. Aaron didn't say it in so many words, but that's what it amounts to when various things are put together: "if he had the power to save her the stress of facing eviction and to protect her from the baying crowd that terrifies her, he would instead save Alex because Faye isn't as deserving as she is."


Well, (1), so what if Alex would be in danger? So what if Alex would go? How did Alex, and Alex reaching the final, suddenly become so important to Aaron?

(2) How deserving can Alex be if she couldn't survive even one vote when 5 or 6 HMs were up?

And (3) does it really make sense that he thinks Alex is in danger? Why would be believe anything Jay said? Even if Jay is telling the truth as he sees it, about what he saw from the crypt, he could have been influenced by whatever spin Anton put on it. And surely, as an experienced BB-watcher, Aaron knows the crowd noise can be misleading.

I still like Aaron, but I am finding him very frustrating at the moment.

And the way Aaron's being defended is all over the place. Some say he saved Alex because he sees her as his strongest competitor, and he's such a BB purist that he thinks the strongest HMs should be in the final. Meanwhile, others say he saved Alex because he thinks Alex is so weak as competition that she'd be voted out even with 5 or 6 HMs up. Still others say he saved her so that she and Jay would split the Geordie vote. Or maybe Aaron made a mistake counting votes but doesn't want to admit it. I've seen that one too. And then there's the theory that Alex is so wonderfully deserving that of course anyone with integrity would put her interests first.

The fact is, none of us know why Aaron did it.”


The last bit is the only sensible conclusion.
Mr_X_123
01-11-2011
I think Aarons mind just works in a different way, and he divorces the BB game from life, whereas to Faye it's very much all one thing.

Certainly seems like he's lavishing love in a non rude way on her today, which is what she asked for!
chris_sw
01-11-2011
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I still like Aaron, but I am finding him very frustrating at the moment.

And the way Aaron's being defended is all over the place. Some say he saved Alex because he sees her as his strongest competitor, and he's such a BB purist that he thinks the strongest HMs should be in the final. Meanwhile, others say he saved Alex because he thinks Alex is so weak as competition that she'd be voted out even with 5 or 6 HMs up. Still others say he saved her so that she and Jay would split the Geordie vote. Or maybe Aaron made a mistake counting votes but doesn't want to admit it. I've seen that one too. And then there's the theory that Alex is so wonderfully deserving that of course anyone with integrity would put her interests first.

The fact is, none of us know why Aaron did it.”

One (Aaron friendly) theory I haven't seen, and one that kind-of chimes with what we saw and what I can fathom of Aaron is this:

He'd run the numbers and saw that, in a straight nomination process, that Faye v Louise was pretty inevitable, with possibly he and Jay thrown in: it couldn't really be any other way. If this result was therefore the "fair" one, it would then be unfair for a twist to distort this result. Alex did not deserve to be up, hence the free pass.

Of course, that doesn't explain why he sought to bring Tom into the mix - other than for personal reasons or because he couldn't create the "fair" result exactly - and it doesn't tally that well with the subsequent discussion he had with Faye. So, yeah, who knows, really.
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