I adore KYLIE, and i like dannii, music wise they are in completly different leagues but dannii has released some decent single throughout her career its just she will always be over shadlowed by kylie music wise. I think its time they did an offical duet though.

oh,its about the music
i thought the topic was which one you would rather do

I'm not a fan per se of any of them, musically. there are lots of songs from Kylie's catalogue I really like and one or two albums of her I found great but I can't really compare them or choose. They are in the same league as another poster said and I have the feeling both had a complete different approach to their music/entertainment career. Kylie is first and foremost the pop star and so driven by her music career when Dannii, whether it was her choice or not, seems to have used music as one of the paths to build her career in the Industry. From an image/personality point of view, I much prefer Dannii - she's the underdog who blossomed over the past 3 years and still carefree. Kylie, on the other hand, to me is pretty much wrapped into her sexy girl-next door image and I got bored of it.
And btw, while I'm as well sceptical about the 7 millions sales attribued to Dannii's singles, I don't see why a poster feel the need to dismiss the proven fact and get right down obnoxious because somebody took the time to check some info and share it to others for discussion's purposes!? Unless they can't stand D. Minogue, does it really matter whether she sold 7 million or just over 1? The point which is made is she sold much more than the general opinion is meant to believe and that's good enough for me!

personally, i think that figure is her total worldwide sales. singles and albums added together. welcome back, by the way!

Thank You - it feels nice to be back! Now that'd make more sense to me. We often tend to forget about other markets as well.

If we are going by music then Kylie, but over here in Australia every since Dannii has been coming back regularly to be part of Australia's Got Talent her popularity has been rising & rising with the home crowd. In the last couple of years whenever Kylie come here quite a lot of snark rises up. Believe it or not.

Even wikipedia articles with 'sources' can be wrong. To give an example sales for Katy Perry's Teenage Dream was giving as 5 Million until recently on her discography page. There source was a Canadian website promoting Katy's tour. Well that figure was a lot of tut because a year after that figure was written Teenage Dream still hasn't sold 5 Million copies.

The only source that Dannii has sold near 7m is that profile of her on some random Aussie website, with everyone seemingly using it to say she has sold that many. Looking through goggle it seems to me that no official figure has ever been said as to how much Dan has sold and that this has often been debated even on Dannii fansites (where they themselves have worked out and used points like me to show it's an unrealistic amount - they seem to think a fantastic 3-4 million would be the tops).

No good augument has been given on any forum or site to prove she has sold that many records, and no other source than that one website has been used. Other members of this forum have also tried to give augments to you using known facts to disprove your belief that 7m is the real amount.

I am not an idoit - I am the one who put together a augument using know official certifications, peaks and sales from both the UK and abroad (as a fan of wiki - go to Dannii's discography page). I did the research (early morning, can't sleep and nothing to do ). And I do not dislike Dannii - I am a fan, I have her autobiograph (unread I must admit) and her autograph I was just giving me honest opinion.

However I'm sure we can all agree who cares. Dannii has done well, been in showbiz for deacades and I'm really and honestly not trying to disprove that. We'll never come to a good and sound augument one way or the other because as I said noone has ever released an official sales total. We'll all just have to believe different things and agree to disagree .

(P.S - someone has now changed wiki to say see has sold 1mil - wasn't me but I think it will have been someone who read this thread).



I do hope it's not me you thought was obnoxious, as that was totally not my intension. I as just putting forward a good augument (imo) of why I personally think sales of 7m for Dannii is unrealistic.

I hope gpk and anyone else knows that my intension wasn't to be obnoxious or smart, just to put my point across. Which some people will obivously disagree with.

I've only ever been interested in Kylie.

I could not name even one of Dannii's songs.

i thought it was just me that noticed the katy perry page! her albums sales figures changes daily! it wasn't something i was going to disclose on here for two reasons. katy gets enough stick on ds and there are a lot of people that truthfully contribute to wikipedia for no payment.

there is a lot of information of that site that is factual. of course there will be fans that will abuse the site by inflating their favourite artists sales. i still think it is a useful tool. once you are aware of the pitfalls and question items by looking at the credibility of the sources.

i didn't think you was being smart or obnoxious. i am not so precious that i cant have my opinions challenged. i wasn't trying to be distracting by offing up that website. it was a source and you challenged it. that is discussion. however, there was more reasoning behind my feelings that the figure could be true. some of which i have already disclosed now.

also there are downloads that are ongoing. also she has had no less than 4 record contracts! so it is difficult to prove or disprove.

I can assure you that it wasn't you that I was aiming at, but at another poster on here. It was simply the tone and perceived contempt and opposition in their reply to my post that shocked me. If you thought otherwise, then I sincerely apologise.

I've never had a problem with genuine frank discussion. I welcome and enjoy it... Even if either side comes from a completely opposing perspective and we "agree to disagree". However, I do draw the line at pure negativity and insolence (an old fashioned word, but that's how it came across).

Dannii.

Most of the people trashing her here admit to have never even listened to her music. Dannii has a stronger and more resonant voice, as 'The Winner Take All' duet proves. It's a shame for her fans that she isn't making music anymore and that she didn't take advantage of her role on X-Factor to promote her music when she had the chance.

Dannii hasn't gotten a fair chance because most people will only support what they perceive as popular for fear of being left out or ridiculed. It's the 'hive mentality'.

Musically. Well i own Kylies box set of Light Years - Aphrodite and Fever, Body Language are exceptional...and X is killer too!

Dannii i like some songs too and agree about her voice too

I prefer Kylie...i mean she is on Britney,Janet level you know....the Pop Princess Trio

But Dannii is overlooked musically although the majority of her hits are cheesy she is pretty vibrant and some songs are shockingly great! Hope she releases a CLub themed album in the future I like her Neon Lights album! My mum has it

I don't really understand how Dannii can be called a flop when she's never had a fair chance to begin with.

She'll make music one day again, when the time is right. I'm sure of that.

i actually used to confuse Neon Lights with Light Years lol! no idea why also because there are like 3 years between the albums too lol.

I think i prefer Neon, as its not "try hard inyourface campness" its more natural Electropop

Its Neon Nights, not lights

If we're going from the back - Kylie
If we're going from the front - Dannii

EDIT: Think I may of misinterpreted the thread title...

Yes - that would have been the logical move to make but I'm glad she didn't. She got enough stick on the show for supposedly not knowing what she was doing, trying to use the X-factor as a way to revive her music career would have made her look desperate and if the song hadn't been a major success or hit number 1, can you imagine how humiliating and awkward it would have been for her sitting as a judge on the X-factor?
Anyway you might be pleased to hear an album is on the works. It's been an info flying around for some time now and even wikipedia mentioned it - but the best hint about it is on her ITV2 documentary as she's seen in the recording studio if I get my facts right.

Oh you made me doubt for a second! - If it was you I was referring to, I would have addressed this issue directly with you and in a more constructive manner. It was another poster I was referring to - his tone and the words he used in his posts didn't sit well with me at all. He's put other posters down in a similar way in other threads so wanted to make a point without finding myself caught in the middle of his nasty behavior. Still, I had to go go back and read again your comments (And his!? - to make sure I've not been throwing accusations up in the air for no reason!?) And I understand though where you're coming from with your arguments. I might not buy into them entirely, that doesn't make you obnoxious

The thing is, Kylie is generally accepted in this country as being a pop icon. Dannii...isn't. I think most people would probably be able to name "I Should Be So lucky" and CGYOOMH" or sing a little bit of those songs as they are iconic pop songs. What would the general public know of Dannii's work? (I do like Dannii by the way, and actually think she has the better singing voice out of the two of them)

Exactly! And if all is confusing with Katy Perry and Rihanna's latest sales when they are the ones currently ruling the pop scene, I'm no surprise in Dannii's case finding out the accurate figures is like seeking a needle in a haystack!?

i wouldn't know. i have not done enough research. although, i have noticed that the figure has changed on wikipedia, since another fm mentioned it! it does seem suspicious that it would have changed, while this discussion is ongoing. i am aware of another forum that analyses sales figures. although, i have not seen a thread on dannii on that site.

the posters on there work tirelessly to find as much information as possible. even sending emails to record companies, to get as accurate information as possible. it is a good read.

there is no comparison between dannii and Kylie. I have been a fan of Kylies since the very beginning and i much prefer her. i think that Dannii is talented (tv wise) but musically its a no-no for me. Kylie is AMAZING live and works/involves the crowd, i wouldnt even bother seeing dannii. Kylie all the way

I prefer Kylie but I do like Dannii. I actually gave Dannii's greatest hits a listen about a year or so ago and was shocked at how much I enjoyed some of the songs, I think her Girl album was actually really good, much better than I thought it would be!

You're kidding me??? - that's what I called obsessive passion!?