There may appear to be a lot of hate on here, trixie, but actually there is a lot of love and caring. The hate appears to be all out there on twitter. Yes, we don't agree and sometimes quite strongly but we usually get over it. Some never do and have left to fight their battles elsewhere. Some dip out - I think all of us have done that at one time or another because the mood of the thread at a particular time has been hard for us to handle - i.e. we don't agree with a lot of what's being said - but we soon return again. There is a lot of caring here for people when they are in trouble or need a listening ear. And to me in the end that's far more important than anything to do with John or Josie. They've both got their own listening ears. Some people who post on here have nobody except the people on this thread to turn to. And wouldn't you say that is rather special?

Count to 10 Deb lol xx

i will read and post on here as much as i want my posts are as valid as yours and people wonder why people are leaving the thread .

Exactly. Did I say you couldn't? Everyone seems so aggressively defensive these days. Even if one tempers a post with positives, the bit that gets picked out is the negative one. I think this is what drives people away. Sometimes a normal 'discussion' does have the appearance of a full on nasty argument, even when it probably isn't.

DS we need more smilies to temper our posts. Please

We don't wonder why .. people are free to come and go of their own accord. If people are leaving because they don't like the things that some people have to say, then that's down to them. Nobody is forcing anyone out of here x

Your posts about John and Josie are as valid as anyone elses. Your posts about other forum members, dismissing their right to believe and discuss what they want are not valid. Sorry.

I will be defensive of our thread, of course. Doesn't it offend you when people come on here and throw around accusations? I'm not aggressive in the slightest and it hurts me that anyone might think that. Definitely the negatives WILL stand out like a sore thumb on an appreciation thread. I'm sorry if I contribute to driving anyone away - but I won't be told not to disagree with anyone on here XX

yes u can have ur say but 2 say what u did make us out 2 be stupid for what we arsaying u dont no me and what iv been tnought this last year and how jjj and pepole on hear and twitter have help me with my loss so dont juj me im sorry this is y i dont do this coz of pepole like u by

Don't apologise for having a point of view, we were just having a light-hearted discussion, nothing heavy or too serious

i disagree ifeel i have been pounced on for stating how i feel so therefore it does make me not want to post how can you make any friends when everytime you post people jump straight on you for thinking differently .

I agree with most of what you say, but I reserve the right to continue to discuss them as individuals and support them separately.... HERE As I've always said, I may disagree (and sometimes vehemently) with some people's opinions on the subject matter at hand, but I would defend anybody's right to their opinion and to express that opinion here... including you of course

I'm sorry you feel pounced on, I really am. I just didn't appreciate the way you came on and addressed us all as a collective and how angry we were making you. And in turn, that made me angry.. so I spoke out, just as you did. Don't ever let anyone (including me) frighten you from not posting - you have just as much right to speak your mind, as I do. Just don't expect everyone to agree with what you say .. I definitely don't expect to be agreed with 100% of the time on here, or anywhere. Everyone thinks differently to each other and I like reading other views (even if I disagree) but when I disagree I'm going to say that I do. I'm sorry if it makes you feel upset.. but can you understand that some of us were upset by your words also? xx

I agree with your point, but you don't know that these same people aren't on the general forum, political forum, any other forum discussing a wide range of issues - including the state of the economic downturn in this country, third world debt (or first world debt of course ), what shoes Madonna is wearing in her latest video, whether to spit or swallow...

Just because people are here posting and enjoy doing so doesn't mean they aren't also concerned with much bigger issues in the world or a wide range of subjects, it just means that this is one topic they enjoy discussing

Ah, Cheeky, but I didn't see trixie's post as being an accusation. It was just a post like any others. My goodness, I've been accused in the past of being anti John and Josie just for expressing a bit of criticism. People do jump on you. And I know some people who are of a different viewpoint feel people jump on them and accuse them of lying and all sorts. It isn't easy sometimes. You yourself have experienced it too, as I know, in the past. It's not always easy putting your views out there and someone comes along and stomps all over them. It's not always easy tempering a response when you feel strongly about something. It's the nature of the thread, I suppose.

The only thing I personally don't like is when thread members are personally criticised by another DS member. But heyho, again, I've been on the receiving end of that too.

god y do i put my self thougth this i have 2 go now

BIB That just made me PMSL

P.S. Where is the forum for that

yes i can but because i don't think john and josie will ever get together or be friends i feel like i have commited a terrible sin.also my views on discussing a ring really seems like no great tradgedy.

Absolutely - and I still wear Simon's socks (am wearing them now ) and the old ring, plus a couple of nicely worn t-shirts make good PJ's ... just for info

And so you should... I do it often enough

Afternoon all.

I dont want to add any negativity but i really take offence at the suggestion that ther is a lot of hate on this thread.
As far as i am aware there is no such thing.
A more loving and caring thread you would be hard to find.
Yes we disagree at times .Yes it sometimes gets quite heated ( usually when someone comes in and makes accusations of hatred and driving other people away) but at the end of discussion we are all friends again.
Thats why we are on thread 205. we keep talking and agreeing to disagree.
Surely thats the reason we are all here. Its home.
Also we have people like Kay and Muggins who have probably the same opinions as yours but have we driven them out .NOthey are loved and respected by all of us.

It wasn't what you said, it was the tone of your post. Course, you haven't committed a terrible sin .. but the way you were speaking was implying that some posters discussing certain subjects were the ones committing these sins. It is NOT a great tragedy in the slightest .. and similarly it is not a big deal for the ones who DO wish to discuss these topics to discuss them

This is what I took umbrage with too and with being labelled as petty etc..

That's it I'm leaving.





























Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood

I've had my own strops as we all know , many of us have, but it's our own decision whether we leave or not, how we react to what is happening, nobody else's

Hope you don't feel I was pouncing on you. I was just saying that in my opinion the positive pollys aren't doing any harm with their views just the same as those who believe they will never speak again aren't. Just different view points from a lot of different people on here

I'm not having a strop!! I'm having a minor disagreement