I'm still here, lurking away like a lurky lurker Sadly, I don't have much to say - I know I should be happy for Josie and her new love interest (and I am really, s'pose) and, if John's happy with or without girl, I should be happy. But, I've said it before and probably will again, it's their relationship that got me hooked and I don't really have any interest in them with anyone else - I don't even think I would have bothered with either of them if they hadn't connected with each other and had that wonderful, beautiful (and sometimes heart-breaking) love story. I have accepted that the chances of them getting back together are slim but, because I believe they are perfect for each other, I still hold out hope that they will work it out

I've read through the thread today and sometimes wonder if I read things in a different way from other people. But my memory is hopeless about stuff that isn't in the grand scheme of life that important and I am totally aware and accepting and honest that inevitably I interpret things from a certain perspective - as we all do. No one in this world is totally objective.

I can't go through a post and pull it to pieces like some people can and refute everything that's said because I respect that person's viewpoint even if don't like it or agree with it. I go on my instinct, my intuition, based on the little I know because in the end as I often say, in spite of what's said in magazines, in spite of what gets whispered around in PMs and DMs, only John and Josie know the real 'truth' of what happened with them and because they are both extremely emotional and passionate people, even their individual ideas of what really happened is inevitably distorted.

I feel sad when I read posts that go over all the 'bad' stuff again, giving us all the gory detail - one person's interpretation of that detail. I feel like one of the dragons in the den when they say 'I'm out' . That is truly how I'm feeling at the moment but I know it is overlain with things going on in my personal life and that what will always count for me on this thread are the friendships I've made. So I may be 'out' for a while - a brief while probably just because I can't help myself

I will still pick up my PMs though.

Oh what that she is actually glad NOW that she nominated him..... Is that what she said then?

Okey, so I guess it's jj then

Evening xx

Oh Kay hope you come back soon, as you know felt like that myself a few weeks ago and probably will again, but as you also know I didn't stay away for long or at all but sometimes you just need a break, so hurry back xx

Evening to you too

I'm sure you didn't clear the thread - I told Gussie last night that her poems were good - just the content wasn't true


What exactly is wrong with us???

Tell you what - whatever it was that kept us sooo interested - bet anyone in the TV world wish they could bottle it - and use it elsewhere.

We are like young foolish girls - following their favourite pop stars - I didn't even do that when I was young.

I've never joined a forum or social networking site in my life.

I'd like to think that I had above average intelligence so why do I keep coming and writing stuff about a couple that I don't know, have never met - never likely to meet - who have no relevance in my life.

Am I coming here just to talk to like minded people or because of JJJ - can someone answer any of my questions please?

Maybe that should be the subject for my next attempt at poetry.

I was asking myself this morning when having a chat to myself.
What time did John post on Fb.
if i remember correctly it was about 4 am in Aus about 8pm here.
i may have that completely wrong i dont know.
The thought went through my head he may be here.
I'm sure one of you will recall better than i when he posted exactly.

Think this happens to everyone - some have come back and some haven't - remember feeling like this myself a few weeks ago.

Don't forget about us - give us a wave every now and then.

BIB- What do you mean like, I am young, maybe not foolish but definately a girl

As for the rest I haven't a clue what the answer is, never been on any forums before either so don't even know if this is normal but can't seem to pull myself away, think we need to set up a self help group xx

Sometimes a break is all you need, or indeed, in my own case, I say to myself "that's it, need to leave JJJ now" and then find myself logging on within minutes It's like going on a diet and being starving as soon as you stop eating, or way back when I used to smoke, craving ciggies as soon as I'd decided I was stopping

Don't know the time but he said he was watching cricket or something sporty and that's why he was up late.

hiya

My coldsore isnt going and its sore and itchy and nobody will kiss me : ( but thats ok cause Ive made a whole batch of banana bread and chocolate biscuits and Im not sharing with these none kissers in my house !

Finlands post was huge- I enjoyed reading it

Killingtime - I have to say I read your post and agreed with it. I like John but Im fully aware of his more unappealing side.

Has Josie really turned brunette?


Right bedtime for my son ..........battle number one begins lol

Sooooo I hold up my hands - I was WRONG!! That almost never happens I didn't want to post last night as it was my brother's birthday and the vibe on here was really pleasant I didn't want to spoil it .. and I hope my next post on here won't spoil anything either cos it's going to get ranty as I often do!!

Fair dinkum warning: AVOID the post should you so wish!! May contain content that some (or all) of you may not like (plus most of all have already made you feelings manifest so the discussion may have moved on - but you know how I like to have my say!)

Greeeeeeat post earlier Heidi Hi

killingtime.................Thank you for posting .......all views welcome here within reason and yours was a very interesting and personal take.

I've read it through several times and in a long post there is a lot on which to comment .......but as a start I would say that the main thing that strikes me is that you seem to see a clear difference between saying things directly on Twitter or directly on TV are somehow more credible and truthful than if it's just hinted at through other mediums.
If there is one thing I'm rapidly learning it is that everything is open to question and interpretation .........since they first said hello we have used up over 200 threads talking ourselves into a twist many times because of the varied takes each poster has.

I have said before that I hate the word 'manipulative' .......it can mean so many things ......it can mean that someone is cruelly bending your will ........or it can mean that someone is giving advice or to steer or help or direct .........that can be a good thing but only if the recipient is welcoming of it ........otherwise they see it as a negative thing .......ie ...controlling............depends on your viewpoint I suppose............but I have said that I did not see the negative of the word in John ...............and yes I did watch him a lot during BB.........perfect he wasn't but cynically manipulative .......I really believe not.
It also begs the question .....if he was so manipulative why did Josie want him to stay?.
When love is lost there are many ways of dealing with that loss and one is to paint the person in an unflattering light and then that makes it so much easier to accept they are gone and that they were never what you wanted anyway. so good riddance.
I think they are both guilty of a little of that and it is one explanation as to how one minute they are so in love and happy in tweets and meets and for example the Fab mag interview and video ........No evidence there of negative manipulation........I aways saw Josie as very able to handle her corner and a lot of the time she appeared to wear the trousers with great confidence.

So that is my personal take on this issue .......some will agree and others will not ........I'm open to persuation if there's anything else to add. .

Hope everything is alright with you Kay - please don't stay away too long. I will miss your posts

I don't like all the talk of what people think happened between them either. I am the same as you I have always said the only two people who know is John and Josie themselves and that is the way it should be. Anything else I just read is just speculation and I try to ignore these type of posts as much as I can.

I don't know as I'm not on Loys FB anymore xx

It was about I in the morning Oz time I think shem

this is exactly how i feel, its the two of them together, that i like, i do want them to be happy, and hoping fate will happen a third time !!!! once for them to be in the house, second when they met in car park, im still on the bench and will wait and wait for fate to step in xx

Well I'm a woman - would like to say girl but don't think I'd get away with it - not young - but probably not old either (well that's my take on it anyway)

I'd like to think I wasn't foolish either but there again if you had seen me walking home on Saturday night - 3 sheets to the wind - no shoes on - walking on walls - maybe you'd disagree with that bit.

Your right no cold sore stuff was being sold on my bus! Went to the chemist and found it there!

Thank you for the warning

Lover swimming in your ocean.
Never even as a teenager did i follow or hero worship ANYONE.
I was young when the Beatles started but i just liked them , i didn't go ga ga over them like all my friends did.
I really cant understand why i feel the way i do about John and Josie.
When the split came it felt like they were leaving ME.
So so stupid i know .
I think to be honest i too fell in love, only it was with THEM.

well carole, if we knew the answer to that.........................

i think it's probably a bit of both, well i think that's what it is for me..... i think
although i do mostly like to post on topic, well, usually, but surely i'll run out of things to talk about eventually, then what
oh hell, i don't bliddy know!!!!

All of the above applies to me - I've never been a fan of anyone, well apart from Donny Osmond back in the 70's but I was only 10. I just don't get it.

I think I'm here because I like to talk and read about JJJ because no-one knows about my obsession in real life (my family sort of know, kids think I'm bonkers, husband thinks I've lost the plot and is not happy, so I tend to keep it a secret). But it also is a bit of a comfort to know that I am not the only one that feels like this - there has been many a time over the last year that I've thought I must be going nuts