Maybe he just has that type of brain that has to do that.


It isn't just Michael though, all the HMs (even Sara) seem to really struggle with Estelle. There has to come a point where it can't be Estelle is right and everyone else is wrong. I also think she's playing the 'victim' card to win and, clever girl, it's working.


That sort of comment really does grate, it just shows how full of himself he is: 'how can anyone not possibly find me adoreable and watchable' - err, me. Not a Sam fan. Didn't Ava say the same thing?


Yes, it was really good. Loving the bits with Delilah - she seems a very fun dog and liked being dragged round the living room on a blanket and been taken to the kissing booth (the chap seemed more comfy kissing Delilah lol - but I don't think it was fair that Delilah's kiss only earned $5 - unfair to dogs!!!! whoever ends up offering her a home will be a very lucky dog owner; she's adoreable. I didn't think having a dog in there would work (for obvious reasons) but it is working isn't! Good thinking BBAU team, brilliant move.

What if Delilah won!

Even non-existing HMs called Sara? Ever heard something called a sheep-like mentality? Zoe and Layla admitted it already lol. And it is a game so I suppose people are isolated to pick them off. And to say a victim wants to be one is heard every year on Big Brother, but I don't think I ever believe it.. We don't even have live stream anyway,and they never show that much of Estelle's interactions with people. And because of that there is no way she can win unless that changes.


She was smiling throughout the whole episode, she couldn't generate any tears anyway. And if she isn't playing the game properly or wants to make out she isn't she should automatically be put up. And why can Zoe be a 'sensitive soul' but not Estelle, I've heard Zoe bitch anyway.


Really? There has been plenty of bitching in this series, but maybe with the timeslot it is put at they can't show as much of it as in the British version. So it can feel a bit watered down with even more of the silly showmance stuff than usual.

As for Sam I've no doubt that he knows he is going. If he stays he will look shocked. But he doesn't want people to think he has given up and is putting on a defiant front in there. I think it's fair to have sympathy for him, he has done everything to ingratiate himself with people and BB allows Ben to nominate him for being 'too sweet'.

There is no wrong or right here Estelle is just "different" and most people can´t handle people who are different. I think she is doing great, why should she change who she is just to please all the others? She really tried to fit in but the other hm don´t give her a fair chance imo. Well, at least she isn´t on the block for once.


yes i agree i was thinking the same thing. He just wants to stay positiv and i dont think he really thinks he has a chance of staying. I want him to stay and Angie or Michael to go but i think it will be between Brad and Sam (if its not a double)

Stacey wearing the top Ava left for Josh, I can't imagine that'd go down well.

It was a shame BB didn't give Ben 2 nomination points because his reasons were weak and it was obvious he targeted Ben for just being the newcomer. In past series BB has awarded nomination points for weak nominations or not nominating properly.

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Glad Ava went home
lighten up Ben
Josh got over Ava well i thought
Sam to go this week,he adds nothing for me

BBAUS is a good entertaining show which has elements of the strong BB format,however,
for me the lack of any live feed is just not the real deal and it is more like a nightly soap.
it is much better produced than BBUK on C5 imo but seriously lacks the real time which BB is based on
i do feel that with just a few hours of night time live feed of say 3 hours from 9pm to midnight,the show would greatly improve for the extra content and also in the ratings.
Same would also apply for BBUK too.

i will conclude though that had C5 done a show of this level and positivity i may have tuned in
but i very much doubt this will happen..........ever hopeful though

There is a very limited view of the HMs, in retrospect there's been plenty of Angie, Layla, Ben but the view of some others has been very limited. And I think that makes the show more manipulative and less interesting.

I think it's quite interesting watching BB at the moment and trying to suss stuff out. I do think this is because we're not seeing enough so it really is a case of judge what you can see, which may not actually be what is going on there.

To me the backing away from Angie is interesting. It's almost like if Angie wasn't there, the house would live in harmony and bitching stop. This is BS. When Ben and Stacey aren't being 'crazy' they bitch and there's no Angie in sight. Zoe, Bradley, Layla and Michael, all have 'opinoins' re HM's and again, Angie isn't often there. Josh who doesn't seem to have an opinion really about any HM, had one about Estelle. Sam's even started having a little moan re Bradley. So really, if Angie left, everything would pretty much stay the same in bitching levels, but it does seem some HM's will happily shove her under the bus, to make it seem they are bitch-less and it's all her fault. The thing Angie did wrong was not do an about turn re Estelle, like HM's did when they realised she was favoured by the public. I mean in the terms of not moaning about Estelle. I'm not saying that Angie is an angel and she does have this whole conspiracy theories with HM's thing going on, but she is not the only one who has a good old bitch, despite certain HM's making it seem she leads the way.

I was never a fan of Estelle and do think she mega plays on the woe is me, I also think she genuinely has a personality that the HM's can't click with. Nearly all HM's have moaned about her, even those who weren't in the cool group. So she's getting all the 'stick her on a pedestal' treatment now on the forums, but I'm really not sure she deserves that. Saying that though, I've never got why any HM's get god like status and the same applies to Estelle.

I'm still not feeling any attachment to any HM's though, so still my fav is the dog!

When it comes to Estelle I don't really see her playing the victim, mainly because I seperate her actions and the actions of the other housemates, and she always seems to be a popular topic of conversation amongst the others.
Unless she's some sort of criminal genius she can't exactly force them to do all this bitching, but as has been said, it is a very bitchy group this year.
But her odds to win aren't exactly amazing, and she's been beaten by the rather self-involved Angie twice in the voting so far, so she's not working the audience very well if that's her intention.
However I do find it quite nauseating how offended Michael and Angie are to be up this time, like Estelle is supposed to just deal with it when she's up every week. If anyone's playing the victim right now, it has to be Michael and/or Angie.

This week's edit has had a whole lot of Michael so far, if he was in any danger they are certainly doing everything to save him. There's some random splashes of Angie too.
Not that I'm too bothered, I mean I'd quite happily take a Sam/Bradley eviction. Infact I hope it's a double so that we can get rid of as many of those up as possible.

I don't think Estelle is put on a pedestal so much as that there aren't that many likeable people in there for many of the audience.

Ultimately though airtime will probably translate to votes to save even if someone isn't that likeable and that's why this is likely to be a predictable eviction. I don't really see what Michael brings to the house though. Ben is better as a social player, Angie has more drama, Estelle is more quirky..

Was it Sarah (with an 'h')? I remember Sarah sitting Estelle down on the bed to try and tell her that constantly interrupting conversations will get people's backs up and she immediately interrupted Sarah! Sarah replied with (something like) 'you are going to listen to this and you are going to like it'.


Yes


I am sure there are people who are easily influenced and want to seem 'part of the pack' and I place Layla and Zoe in that group (I could be wrong but it's how I see them).


Which doesn't necessarily translate to it being untrue. I've seen it on several shows where the crying or the sob story gets trotted out to try and garner sympathy from the public - it often worked well which is why it is tried on but the public became a bit immune to it from overdose of it.


They may be doing her a favour by not showing the very actions that seem to irritate the other HMs. I'm undecided on live feed - from what I saw , years ago, on BBUK live feed, it was mind-numbing - very little happened to make it worthwhile watching.


I didn't say Estelle isn't a sensitive soul - in fact, I commented a few posts back about how sad I felt when she looked heartbroken over the nominations (she was sat on the settee I think at the time) so I'm not sure who your comment is aimed at but if it's at me, your aim is a tad off


Haven't we all


Yes, really. Compared to BBUK, the bitching seen on BBAU I class as refined. Agree over the showmance and it is one area I feel disappointed - the Josh and Ava thing was so way OTT.


In essence, I agree with you but I haven't particularly taken to him - that could be down to editing but short of a crystal ball, what is shown is all I have to go on!

She doesn't have to change. If, however, she wants to be 'accepted', then she would have to moderate her behaviour. Isn't that what we all do? If someone has a character trait that all of those around them find difficult to accept, shouldn't the onus be on the one with the character trait that is unacceptable? I'm sure we've all known people who interrupt other people speaking or do something that is nothing more than trying to refocus attention on themselves and it can become annoying - we have the option of walking away but in there, they can't so the problem will become magnified and out of proportion; isn't that the whole point of BB?

Ooh, given that the two of them didn't get along, that's a bit unkind of Stacey to do that. I want to like Stacey as she's fun loving (they are the type of people I tend to gravitate towards) but there can be a bit of a cruel side to Stacey and wearing Ava's t-shirt is one of them!

That puzzled me - Angie comes across as a bit bratty and self-important and after she got right into Layla's face (and the intention that she was prepared for it to become a physical confrontation), I'm surprised there was no public backlash about that.


I like Michael but I did find that fixed grin very amusing - it did shout 'how dare you'!

Yet the HMs don't vote for him. He had one tactical vote this week and then Estelle's vote because of what he had said about her (and she did state had she not seen the footage of his nominations, she wouldn't have voted for him either). If the HMs are leaving him alone, he can't be that bad. Same goes for Ben; the other HMs seem to really like those two.

Sorry Eve, I completely forgot about Sarah. I think it just shows how she must have been another very forgettable HM for me.


The whole point of BB is that you put people together who wouldn't normally be, otherwise it would be just one big happy family and very boring.

And I'm sure there are annoying things about other people in there, but it is a game and those who are in a better position in the house will not be criticised that much and people will try and pick off those on the outside. There is a pack like mentality and they put people in who aren't as tolerant so it will create more conflict. You could quite easily say the bitchiness in there is more annoying than Estelle's changing moods. It probably just depends on what kind of person you are. I'm sure the psychology of Big Brother is very different to how things work on the outside so it's hard to really compare.

Vote to save means airtime = votes. So Angie could well go far, particularly with the comedic element to her moods (crying over the chicken meal). She is somehow less calculating than others such as Zoe, Stacey, Josh and Michael who I think try and hide behind their gameplan more.

I think this week Angie is using the sympathy line! I guess it saved Estelle a number of times, she thought she'd have a go! Michael did look very put out he was up and I'm not sure if Estelle did herself any favours. Michael does seem to have the houses attention, so he could do what Angie couldn't. Put out more intellectual bitching about Estelle. The sort of bitching that is critical but well thought out critical, so doesn't seem like proper bitching (although it is!) Not sure if Michael is that vindictive and I know he hasn't been singing her praise anyway, but to me he really is the most determined to win, so be interesting to see how he reacts this week. Also if he stays, if he noms Estelle for 4 points this time, you know, a little revenge! Even though he did nom her so really, he can't moan!

I thought the Angie chicken crying was quite funny and it actually made me feel ok about Angie (well for that short while anyway!) Just because that can happen. You hear something that makes you sad, you're ok then something stupid and emotionless happens and you're off. It did make me chuckle. I also think saying she would like a break from the next eviction was fair enough. I don't think she made any comment that it was ok for Estelle and not her? Did I miss that?

Yeah BB don't want Michael to go and will be well surprised if he does. It does feel a bit like a Michael love in at the mo! That could back fire against BB though, although I just can't see the other 3 getting more saves them him. I'd be happy if Bradley and Sam go. I would really like Sam to go. He just seems a full time game player and nothing he has said or done has made me warm to him. I feel with Sam, you're def seeing an acted out version of who Sam thinks will win BB. But apart from flexing his muscles, kissing Layla and cleaning, there doesn't seem to be much to him. So if this is an acted out version, then it's pretty lame!

The HM's do seem to like Michael and I think see him as the 'fun' and intellectual one. He can also be self depreciating, which I'm not sure he really is, but can get you support. This week, Zoe decided to in a sense show her hand about how she wants to win. Her voting Michael seemed to be based on the fact that she thought he was strong competition. It's true as well, if Estelle hadn't heard his nom, he wouldn't be up.

To me they seem to have the most respect for Ben and Michael, but I do think they both may start to feel the whole tactical vote thing going on, especially when there's a few more HM's gone.

I actually found what Zoe said to BB a bit annoying. When she nommed him, she made it perfectly clear why, that it was tactical and not personal in a sense. She even seemed quite happy that she was. Then saying 'I didn't think anyone else would nom him' to me was weak. After all, with HM's getting as low as 6 points and being up, it only takes two HM's to put you up. I kind of find with Zoe I've started to not believe her now. Too many times she says she feels bad, but still acts as she does. To me the 'I'm nice really' gameplan is wearing a bit thin. I do get she might feel a bit bad, but all the 'it's not my fault, I didn't think anyone else would go there' or 'it's Angie's fault, she made me' makes me think she is trying too hard to make sure everyone knows she's really nice really!

Tuned in to watch the eviction live & didn't realise that Australia had moved onto Summertime, so I saw the very end and the evictee! Oh well, will have to download the show later.

yeah i missed it too ... EVERYTHING . But i read who was evicted ... well sad it was not a double

I saw the result on twitter before it was broadcast, not all the country has daylight savings (there are now 5 different timezones). Not too fussed, but I'll learn to void it on Tuesday when the X Factor is on.

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surprised by who was evicted but i guess they have nothing much else to add

Michael is very popular it seems though

Thanks, I wondered yesterday why the BB live twitter account was putting '22:00 BB time', whereas they had just put the time before. It makes sense now