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It has remained relatively flat series on series although I think the last series was down due to airing in January against tough competition. Think it'll do 1.6-1.8m for the first episode. I do think should there be another series and if they can fit in Paul's schedule, they should send him to Australia!
![]() I like this kind of stuff. Much better than documentaries about faces falling off and extra limbs. I hope it rates really well. |
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Clearly, you can see where the commercial breaks are and how when time-shifted there is less of an increment (but importantly still a sizeable increase!).
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And if ever he gets fed up with long journeys, he could do four separate series about England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.
![]() I like this kind of stuff. Much better than documentaries about faces falling off and extra limbs. I hope it rates really well. In other news. Channel 5 have picked up Dallas but I imagine due to the Olympics it won't air until August or September, |
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Apologies, I've been busy with various things. As it happens I forgot that BARB don't create network break averages for ITV1 as spots aren't sold on a network basis (otherwise it gets a bit complicated in matching up the spot times). However, to give you a rough idea of the impact of the breaks, here are the minute by minute Live, Live + VOSDAL (Overnights) and Consolidated XF audiences (000s) for 10th September. Apologies for formatting, not sure how to make it look pretty? (ITV1, HD Not included)
<snip> Clearly, you can see where the commercial breaks are and how when time-shifted there is less of an increment (but importantly still a sizeable increase!). In terms of the impact of how Overnights are interpreted (including commercials) by some, if you crudely (I haven't looked at the actual programme/commercial times) remove these minutes from the Live+VOSDAL figures and create two averages you can see that ave audience increases from 9.8m to 10.1m simply by removing the commercial minutes (as is the case with consolidated audiences). Clearly, this will change from programme to programme dependent on the number of commercials etc etc Edit: Does anyone know if the BARB recording treats "FFx30" as still "watching"? K |
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Sunday 9th October Overnights
BBC One 18:25- Countryfile: 7.2m (33.1%) 19:25- Strictly Come Dancing Results: 9.8m (38.3%) 20:00- Antiques Roadshow: 5.8m (20.8%) 21:00- Spooks: 4.5m (16.5%) Quote:
ITV1 (inc ITV1+1)
19:00- Holding Out for a Hero: 2.5m (9.9%) 20:00- The X Factor Results: 11.9m (41.1%) * 5-minute peak: 13.9m 21:00- Downton Abbey: 9.0m (32.6%) Holding Out For A Hero had 2.29m (9.4%) without +1, which is probably the biggest waste of an X-Factor lead-in/lead-out ITV have ever had. (The Prisoner was worse but that was BGT) Quote:
Channel 4 (inc C4+1)
18:10- Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: 2.5m (8.4%) 21:00- Fighting on the Front Line: 1.0m (3.2%) 22:00- Sweeney Todd: 0.7m (4.7%) Quote:
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17:55- Groundhog Day: 0.9m (4.1%) 20:00- Warship: 0.4m (1.3%) 21:00- Big Brother: 1.2m (4.5%) 22:00- Rush Hour: 0.9m (7.0%) |
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Do those figures show how many timeshifters are watching or skipping the ad breaks?
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20:15 - 1369 20:16 - 1741 20:17 - 1968 20:18 - 2123 20:19 - 2341 20:20 - 2506 20:21 - 2621 20:22 - 2644 20:23 - 2609 20:24 - 2608 20:25 - 2536 20:26 - 2370 ---- 20:27 - 749 20:28 - 488 20:29 - 465 20:30 - 588 ---- 20:31 - 2168 20:32 - 2591 20:33 - 2632 20:34 - 2675 20:35 - 2742 20:36 - 2834 20:37 - 2940 20:38 - 2960 20:39 - 2886 20:40 - 2778 20:41 - 2589 20:42 - 1232 ---- 20:43 - 529 20:44 - 389 20:45 - 420 20:46 - 1033 ---- 20:47 - 2692 20:48 - 2712 20:49 - 2698 20:50 - 2759 20:51 - 2761 20:52 - 2792 20:53 - 2745 20:54 - 2650 20:55 - 2713 20:56 - 2637 20:57 - 2600 20:58 - 2110 20:59 - 947 ---- 21:00 - 646 21:01 - 543 21:02 - 605 21:03 - 610 ---- 21:04 - 1613 21:05 - 2494 21:06 - 2654 21:07 - 2820 21:08 - 2808 21:09 - 2824 21:10 - 2687 21:11 - 2573 21:12 - 2445 21:13 - 2288 21:14 - 1534 EDIT - just a note, trickytree's example excludes HD, but I doubt the patterns are any different to SD. |
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BBC One are starting Strictly at 6.25pm next week. If they had stuck to 6pm it would have finished at 7.50pm - only five minutes into The X Factor.
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The BBC should not really be competing for viewers, as this is not in their remit.
![]() Of course the BBC need to compete for viewers! Every broadcaster needs to do that, regardless of which of the three UK funding models they use. We can't have BBC One retreating from certain slots just because there happens to be a Ratings Thread Favourite on ITV1 at the same time. |
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Here's trickytree1979's post in graph form for anyone interested: http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9748/xfactor.png
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Merlin is doing nicely too, though I always confuse it with Robin Hood (is that still going?)
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I don't dispute that but the OP said that ITV instigated the clash (which was correct for last weekend) but for this weekend the BBC are pushing Strictly back by 25 minutes; if they had left it where it was then the two shows would've only clashed for five. Even if The X Factor had started in it's previous 8pm slot there would've been a clash of 15 minutes. So in this case the BBC are instigating the clash.
SCD was at 6.25pm in the provisional schedule, and in the final schedule. Rather sporting of the BBC to give ITV their exact Saturday night schedule six days earlier than they needed to, I thought.Remember, Final Score is back this weekend, so unless you advocate ending that programme before the football matches have finished, I don't see how earlier than 6.25pm was possible for SCD. Remember, too, there's an ITV1+1 channel now, which is presumably why ITV are happy to start XF anywhere from 7.30pm onwards. And, remember further, X Factor is only a television show, not a matter of life and death. |
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Robin Hood was canceled in 2009. Merlin is already recommissioned for 2012.
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As expected, alot of talk about TXF on here today. The figures are underwhelming compared to 2010 and 2009 especially last year as there was so much going on. The endless stories of auto-tune, guest judges, Cheryl's malaria, the return of Cheryl and Dannii at Judges Houses, Gamu-gate, the wild-card acts, the Katie/Wagner stories really did send the show sky high. Everything was so right last year hence it getting such massive ratings. This year, I don't care what people say, the press hasn't been as massive. OK the new panel obviously generated alot of interest. And some controversial decisions at judges houses and the twist also produced headlines, but apart from that, I can't really think of much. The stories of the 2010 series seems almost endless. The ratings inc. +1 are good. Not great, not bad. They just need to control the decline by not making any big mistakes. I can see it climbing further as the live shows continue and the duration of Saturday's shows decreases.
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Shows how clued up I am...
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As expected, alot of talk about TXF on here today. The figures are underwhelming compared to 2010 and 2009 especially last year as there was so much going on. The endless stories of auto-tune, guest judges, Cheryl's malaria, the return of Cheryl and Dannii at Judges Houses, Gamu-gate, the wild-card acts, the Katie/Wagner stories really did send the show sky high. Everything was so right last year hence it getting such massive ratings. This year, I don't care what people say, the press hasn't been as massive. OK the new panel obviously generated alot of interest. And some controversial decisions at judges houses and the twist also produced headlines, but apart from that, I can't really think of much. The stories of the 2010 series seems almost endless. The ratings inc. +1 are good. Not great, not bad. They just need to control the decline by not making any big mistakes. I can see it climbing further as the live shows continue and the duration of Saturday's shows decreases.
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5.55 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Merlin 8.30 National Lottery 9.20 Casualty 10.10 BBC News 10.30 Match of the Day 4.40 News 4.55 MasterChef And where are you getting the fifty-minute National Lottery show from? There aren't any left in the can. |
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4.00 Final Score
4.40 News 4.55 MasterChef And where are you getting the fifty-minute National Lottery show from? There aren't any left in the can. |
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The hype last year surrounding XF was crazy. It was inevitable that, after the peaks of last year, this year would be a relatively quieter affair.
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The hype last year surrounding XF was crazy. It was inevitable that, after the peaks of last year, this year would be a relatively quieter affair.
It's whether or not they can pull enough stunts to whip up a frenzy and boost the judges' profiles that will be the clincher in all of this. |
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Just read the Waily Fail's article about the X Factor ratings. My favourite part is the description of a drop from 13.5m to 12.7m as "massive".
![]() Ridiculous use of Strictly's figures too, downplaying its success last night. The Daily Mail seems to exist solely to cause trouble and stir things; I think it's the absolute lowest of the low where papers are concerned. I wouldn't wipe my arse with it. I wouldn't wipe mine with it, either.Even if I was getting first use of it! |
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According to ITV Media, there's going to be a Take Me Out 'extension show' on ITV2 for its next series, I'm guessing similar to Xtra Factor/More Talent etc. Also they say it's starting in Q1 2012 so it doesn't look like it'll be getting TXF Final lead-in for its series opener like last year. I suspect it'll launch on 7th January 2012.
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To be fair it's had it's fair share of hype. The fact is, the New Generation haven't proven themselves as worthy competitors to their predecessors and the media's not as interested.
It's whether or not they can pull enough stunts to whip up a frenzy and boost the judges' profiles that will be the clincher in all of this. The New Judges have proven themselves very Worthy IMO It was going to be very hard to follow in the other judges footsteps and they seem to have done well as shown by the ratings |
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That Sunday Night Show has not returned very well.
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Would it not be better, although slightly OT, if we returned to the 20-minute National Lottery shows with just the draw itself. It could pave the way for something new in the BBC1 schedule because I think that, though it is a reliable enough performer, the Lotto gameshows are getting quite tired now.
![]() The BBC's lottery contract runs out at the end of 2012, so I doubt we're going to see any innovation in the formats unless or until they avoid being outbid for the rights from 2013 onwards. |
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Wonder what will replace Spooks on Sunday, my guess would be either Empire or Frozen Planet with the other going on Mondays. Frozen Planet is 6 or 7 episodes while Empire is 5 episodes,
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SCD was at 6.25pm in the provisional schedule, and in the final schedule. Rather sporting of the BBC to give ITV their exact Saturday night schedule six days earlier than they needed to, I thought.
