Only just noticed that awesome rise for Gok last night. Looks like ITV did Channel 4 a big favour at 8pm and I could see Gok inching ahead of Jeremy next week.
The Ratings Thread (Part 25)
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“Amanda Knox, the American who won her appeal over the killing of British student Meredith Kercher, is to be the subject of a fast-turnaround documentary for Channel 5.
The hour-long ITN Productions doc Amanda Knox: The Untold Story will feature previously unseen footage from the murder scene, dramatic reconstruction of the crime and contributions from crime and forensic experts.
Members of the Knox family will also contribute.”
“Amanda Knox, the American who won her appeal over the killing of British student Meredith Kercher, is to be the subject of a fast-turnaround documentary for Channel 5.
The hour-long ITN Productions doc Amanda Knox: The Untold Story will feature previously unseen footage from the murder scene, dramatic reconstruction of the crime and contributions from crime and forensic experts.
Members of the Knox family will also contribute.”
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...033210.article
As revealed yesterday it will be broadcast on October 25th at 8pm. A similar documentary aired on CBS over the weekend drew 5.2m/1.3 in the U.S.
ITV Press Centre now has Family Fortunes at 6:30pm and Ross at 9:55pm on October 22nd, so the schedule seems to have been pushed back half an hour so TXF will be on 8-9:55pm unless anything changes.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The same Big Brother that gave them their highest audience share of the night?”
“The same Big Brother that gave them their highest audience share of the night?”
That doesn't mean it did well of it's own accord, just In relation to the rest of the night.
And someones just said that CSI Miami has fallen 30% year on year so I take back my original statement. I didn't realise it was capable of a lot more.
Originally Posted by Score:
“ITV Press Centre now has Family Fortunes at 6:30pm and Ross at 9:55pm on October 22nd, so the schedule seems to have been pushed back half an hour so TXF will be on 8-9:55pm unless anything changes.”
“ITV Press Centre now has Family Fortunes at 6:30pm and Ross at 9:55pm on October 22nd, so the schedule seems to have been pushed back half an hour so TXF will be on 8-9:55pm unless anything changes.”
A sudden outbreak of common sense. That basically reduces the clash to almost nothing - once you factor in the fluff at the end of Strictly and beginning of XF. Should help the numbers.
Originally Posted by Do Something!:
“That doesn't mean it did well of it's own accord, just In relation to the rest of the night.”
“That doesn't mean it did well of it's own accord, just In relation to the rest of the night.”
True, but your statement still didn't make any sense. How could it "drag down" the night when it was their best performer in terms of audience share?
You might as well say Emmerdale dragged down ITV1 last night.
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“ITV1's full peak-time line-up....+1 figs in brackets
Emmerdale – 6.6m/ 30.9% (6.4m)
Mayday Mayday 2.5m/11.3% (2.6m)
High Stakes – 2.2m / 9.6% (2.3m)
71 Degrees North – 2.2.m /9.7% (2.4m)
News – 1.7m /9.5% (1.8m)”
“ITV1's full peak-time line-up....+1 figs in brackets
Emmerdale – 6.6m/ 30.9% (6.4m)
Mayday Mayday 2.5m/11.3% (2.6m)
High Stakes – 2.2m / 9.6% (2.3m)
71 Degrees North – 2.2.m /9.7% (2.4m)
News – 1.7m /9.5% (1.8m)”
Oh dear. Ouch for High Stakes...that really tanked. Quite shocking to see that ITV1 is only getting 2 million in primetime on Tuesdays. What a far cry for the dominance that ITV used to have on Tuesday nights in the 90's with Soldier, Soldier and Peak Practice IIRC. Solid for Emmerdale though.
Originally Posted by allthingsuk:
“Oh dear. Ouch for High Stakes...that really tanked. Quite shocking to see that ITV1 is only getting 2 million in primetime on Tuesdays. What a far cry for the dominance that ITV used to have on Tuesday nights in the 90's with Soldier, Soldier and Peak Practice IIRC. Solid for Emmerdale though.”
“Oh dear. Ouch for High Stakes...that really tanked. Quite shocking to see that ITV1 is only getting 2 million in primetime on Tuesdays. What a far cry for the dominance that ITV used to have on Tuesday nights in the 90's with Soldier, Soldier and Peak Practice IIRC. Solid for Emmerdale though.”
It really is a pitiful set of results and the problem seems to be getting worse with 71 Degrees North about 1 million down on where it was a year ago.
One more year until the football moves back. Will the problems spread to Wednesday is the big question?
Originally Posted by Score:
“ITV Press Centre now has Family Fortunes at 6:30pm and Ross at 9:55pm on October 22nd, so the schedule seems to have been pushed back half an hour so TXF will be on 8-9:55pm unless anything changes.”
“ITV Press Centre now has Family Fortunes at 6:30pm and Ross at 9:55pm on October 22nd, so the schedule seems to have been pushed back half an hour so TXF will be on 8-9:55pm unless anything changes.”
Well, well, well. Who would have thought it?
ITV having to move TXF out of the way of Strictly in order to shore up the ratings!
Bit of a turnaround isn't it?
how does an ITV show start at 2.2 million? I mean come on this is ITV, it should get at least 3 million, provided its not airing something the public have judged rubbish and not worth watching, and yet High Stakes doesn't even manage that.
71 Degrees has gone from "ok" (and only ok mind) last series to total flop this year, same could be said for That Sunday Night Show.
Mayday Mayday at least has the excuse its airing opposite EastEnders, but I still feel it should have had RNLI in the title.
Looking ahead it has the same line up for the next two weeks (if not more) where on earth is it going to be then?
I know ive said before, if you bought an American network head into run ITV, he may not get Corrie of Emmerdale, but he would see they were popular, but then he would look at the shows after it, and ask why they are not retaining the audience better.
RobbieSykes123 This might just be me seeing what I want to see, but it does seem that the shine has stated to come off of X-Factor, but still its ratings are still massive, its hardly gone into free fall.
Strictly has always been a solid performer, it just doesn't get credit for it, as it doesn't self promoted in quite the same way X-Factor does.
71 Degrees has gone from "ok" (and only ok mind) last series to total flop this year, same could be said for That Sunday Night Show.
Mayday Mayday at least has the excuse its airing opposite EastEnders, but I still feel it should have had RNLI in the title.
Looking ahead it has the same line up for the next two weeks (if not more) where on earth is it going to be then?
I know ive said before, if you bought an American network head into run ITV, he may not get Corrie of Emmerdale, but he would see they were popular, but then he would look at the shows after it, and ask why they are not retaining the audience better.
RobbieSykes123 This might just be me seeing what I want to see, but it does seem that the shine has stated to come off of X-Factor, but still its ratings are still massive, its hardly gone into free fall.
Strictly has always been a solid performer, it just doesn't get credit for it, as it doesn't self promoted in quite the same way X-Factor does.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“One more year until the football moves back. Will the problems spread to Wednesday is the big question?”
“One more year until the football moves back. Will the problems spread to Wednesday is the big question?”
Well Corrie should go some way to solving that problem. The thing is, I don't know if the nights will swap completely. For instance, where will the two-hour dramas go? They'll perform best on Wednesday, with a Corrie lead-in and avoiding Holby - but where will that leave Tuesdays on the majority of weeks when there's no football to play? Then you have Emmerdale isolated on Thursday and that very awkward 8.30 slot, potentially hampering any 9pm offerings? It's all a tricky balancing act because ITV just don't have any stable pre-watershed offerings outside the soaps.
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Well Corrie should go some way to solving that problem.”
“Well Corrie should go some way to solving that problem.”
using Corrie to prop up a night, seems like short term thinking, no disrespect to Corrie, but ITV needs to be able to create something that does not need Corrie to prop it up.
This thread is funny sometimes, everyone has a memory that only lasts 6 days. So every Tuesday we get the same "I'm really surprised ITV only got 2m tonight" and then the same debate, even though it happens every single week for years.
Why ITV rates so low on Tuesdays I'm not sure, but it's hardly a big suprise some are making out.
Why ITV rates so low on Tuesdays I'm not sure, but it's hardly a big suprise some are making out.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“how does an ITV show start at 2.2 million? I mean come on this is ITV, it should get at least 3 million,”
“how does an ITV show start at 2.2 million? I mean come on this is ITV, it should get at least 3 million,”
One can only assume that Jeremy Kyle is prime time poison.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“using Corrie to prop up a night, seems like short term thinking, no disrespect to Corrie, but ITV needs to be able to create something that does not need Corrie to prop it up.”
“using Corrie to prop up a night, seems like short term thinking, no disrespect to Corrie, but ITV needs to be able to create something that does not need Corrie to prop it up.”
Corrie had been on Wednesday nights since it started over 50 years ago. It was a big mistake moving it in the first place, it's now being returned to its rightful place.
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“One can only assume that Jeremy Kyle is prime time poison.”
“One can only assume that Jeremy Kyle is prime time poison.”
I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Corrie had been on Wednesday nights since it started over 50 years ago. It was a big mistake moving it in the first place, it's now being returned to its rightful place.”
“Corrie had been on Wednesday nights since it started over 50 years ago. It was a big mistake moving it in the first place, it's now being returned to its rightful place.
”
but still simply moving Corrie to help prop up a failing night, seems like a short term solution to bigger problems.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“This thread is funny sometimes, everyone has a memory that only lasts 6 days. So every Tuesday we get the same "I'm really surprised ITV only got 2m tonight" and then the same debate, even though it happens every single week for years.
Why ITV rates so low on Tuesdays I'm not sure, but it's hardly a big suprise some are making out.”
“This thread is funny sometimes, everyone has a memory that only lasts 6 days. So every Tuesday we get the same "I'm really surprised ITV only got 2m tonight" and then the same debate, even though it happens every single week for years.
Why ITV rates so low on Tuesdays I'm not sure, but it's hardly a big suprise some are making out.”
But laughing at the old ratings ex-juggernaut WWTBAM getting 3.5m against Holby City has now become laughing at the latest lightweight daytime filler getting 2.5m against Holby City.
A poor night getting 3m has now become a poor night getting 2m.
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“One can only assume that Jeremy Kyle is prime time poison.”
“One can only assume that Jeremy Kyle is prime time poison.”
I'd love to know the executive who thought the presenter of a low brow chav TV program would be suitable game host material. I mean he always has this 'hostile' streak about him. There is nothing personable about him.
The executive who approved Jeremy Kyle for High Stakes should be shot.
I'm glad of the decision though. It might take Jeremy down a peg or two.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?”
“I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?”
the one thing they all have in common is the ITV Studios and the desire to increase the amount it produces.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“This thread is funny sometimes, everyone has a memory that only lasts 6 days. So every Tuesday we get the same "I'm really surprised ITV only got 2m tonight" and then the same debate, even though it happens every single week for years.
Why ITV rates so low on Tuesdays I'm not sure, but it's hardly a big suprise some are making out.”
“This thread is funny sometimes, everyone has a memory that only lasts 6 days. So every Tuesday we get the same "I'm really surprised ITV only got 2m tonight" and then the same debate, even though it happens every single week for years.
Why ITV rates so low on Tuesdays I'm not sure, but it's hardly a big suprise some are making out.”
There's a world of difference between the 2.2m it got and the 2.9m people were predicting though. Even Cops with Cameras repeats were doing high 2s back in the summer.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?
”
“I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?
”
Assuming High Stakes is only 6 parts, he probably recorded it in a day or two. Hardly a massive undertaking.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Assuming High Stakes is only 6 parts, he probably recorded it in a day or two. Hardly a massive undertaking.”
“Assuming High Stakes is only 6 parts, he probably recorded it in a day or two. Hardly a massive undertaking.”
fair enough. Still if I was him, (and like Simon Cowell) I would be focusing my efforts on my US show, not worrying about a game show I probably already know is a dud.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“fair enough. Still if I was him, (and like Simon Cowell) I would be focusing my efforts on my US show, not worrying about a game show I probably already know is a dud.”
“fair enough. Still if I was him, (and like Simon Cowell) I would be focusing my efforts on my US show, not worrying about a game show I probably already know is a dud.”
The format of the gameplay is perfectly fine. I've seen worse. It could have worked if it had been in a different slot or on a different channel.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?”
“I actually have a further question, does Jeremy Kyle care? he is busy selling his main show to the states, I would guess this is the last thing on his mind right now. Heck even ITV wont be to disappointed to see this flop, could Kyle really have done all 3 shows if this had been a hit?”
Yes.
The US talk show (and possibly the UK version) is recorded 'in bulk'. That's generally the way US daytime television works. It keeps the costs down. A years worth of Judge Judy for example is shot in the space of about 4 days. I suspect most of if not all of Kyle's US shows for the season are already in the can.
Originally Posted by ausfun:
“I'd love to know the executive who thought the presenter of a low brow chav TV program would be suitable game host material. I mean he always has this 'hostile' streak about him. There is nothing personable about him.”
“I'd love to know the executive who thought the presenter of a low brow chav TV program would be suitable game host material. I mean he always has this 'hostile' streak about him. There is nothing personable about him.”
To be honest I don't think he's a bad choice for a game show I just think he's a bad choice for this format. In theory you can make use of that 'hostile streak' in the right format.
Hi everyone! Been off travelling for a while, but I'm back.
Such a lot to comment on, but I'll keep it brief.
Doc Martin & Downton are as solid as ever for ITV and it's great to have them both airing in the same year. Billy Connolly also seems to have done well on Thursdays and their schedule is actually pretty good atm. The only problem is the XF/SCD clash. I thought DCI Banks would perform better on Fridays, as drama used to work there, but it's not done as well as expected. Tuesdays are horrendous. 71 Degrees should be doing better and everything just keeps getting lower and lower. Regular football can't come soon enough.
The soaps are plodding along, but with some average figures imo. Corrie should be a tad higher. Personally I hope Emmerdale's ratings start decreasing, just so ITV take note of how awful the show is right now. I've given it ~8 months, but I've finally turned off. Absolutely nothing is interesting me and some of the future spoilers look diabolical.
Slightly disappointing that the XF is starting to slow down momentum, but I thought the twist at the weekend was bizarre and not needed at all. The whole results show felt pointless, when the judges would have already known who they would vote off, and it backfired considering how many strong girls and boys there are and both Gary & Kelly could have been left with 4 acts till midway through the competition. Just seen TV Burp too-still providing a few laughs, but not as many as before. It'll be a shame if it ends, but if it does I'd love to see Harry on BGT.
BB has finally stabilised, but at quite a low level. It's still performing better than most other things on Ch5 I guess. After a strong start to the Autumn, everything seems to be struggling. The 8pm slot is producing some dire figures, Hotel Inspector (which I wasn't expecting to return yet) is pulling in half the audience it should be & Miami is down. I think HI should have been left till next year. The thing is that Ch5 would be airing at least one weeknight movie, but BB is stopping this and they're having to dig up all the strong factual they have.
Such a lot to comment on, but I'll keep it brief.
Doc Martin & Downton are as solid as ever for ITV and it's great to have them both airing in the same year. Billy Connolly also seems to have done well on Thursdays and their schedule is actually pretty good atm. The only problem is the XF/SCD clash. I thought DCI Banks would perform better on Fridays, as drama used to work there, but it's not done as well as expected. Tuesdays are horrendous. 71 Degrees should be doing better and everything just keeps getting lower and lower. Regular football can't come soon enough.
The soaps are plodding along, but with some average figures imo. Corrie should be a tad higher. Personally I hope Emmerdale's ratings start decreasing, just so ITV take note of how awful the show is right now. I've given it ~8 months, but I've finally turned off. Absolutely nothing is interesting me and some of the future spoilers look diabolical.
Slightly disappointing that the XF is starting to slow down momentum, but I thought the twist at the weekend was bizarre and not needed at all. The whole results show felt pointless, when the judges would have already known who they would vote off, and it backfired considering how many strong girls and boys there are and both Gary & Kelly could have been left with 4 acts till midway through the competition. Just seen TV Burp too-still providing a few laughs, but not as many as before. It'll be a shame if it ends, but if it does I'd love to see Harry on BGT.
BB has finally stabilised, but at quite a low level. It's still performing better than most other things on Ch5 I guess. After a strong start to the Autumn, everything seems to be struggling. The 8pm slot is producing some dire figures, Hotel Inspector (which I wasn't expecting to return yet) is pulling in half the audience it should be & Miami is down. I think HI should have been left till next year. The thing is that Ch5 would be airing at least one weeknight movie, but BB is stopping this and they're having to dig up all the strong factual they have.
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